Calorie burn competition anyone?
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akasha9772
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Anyone wanna push each other to see how many calories we can burn? A friendly competition. I have a Garmin 235 HR GPS watch, so my count is accurate.
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A watch with hr sensor is not accurate unless one knows ones maxHR. I could set my maxHR to a fairly low number and just walk to the supermarket to beat you simply because I have a fairly high activity heartrate. This would result in sick calorie burns on the watch, which of course are not there in reality. HR does not equal calorie burn.6
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This ^^
All I need to do is to think about and anticipate cycling up hills, and my heart rate goes up.
And ... a person can only exercise for 24 hours each day. None of us can conjure up any extra hours.3 -
Let's leave out deceit and negativity11
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I know my max heart rate0
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If I recall correctly, Motoactiv is among the few that allow for personal calibrations based on VO2 max and mac heart rate.
Without calibration is based in averages for a person your age, weight, height, and gender.
Spin bikes that directly measure watts come pretty close.0 -
No HRM is ever going to get your calorie burn 100% correct. You heart rate just doesn't matter that much. Plus, what you want to do is not really fair. A person that weighs 300 pounds will burn many more calories than a person who weighs 130 pounds doing the exact same thing. Sorry if you think that is negativity. It doesn't change the fact that it is correct.
Plus, there's no way I will purposely exercise just to burn calories. I exercise with a purpose of getting stronger and faster. If I need to gain or lose weight, I focus on my diet.9 -
akasha9772 wrote: »Let's leave out deceit and negativity
It's neither deceit nor negativity - it's a series of logical statements concerning the accuracy of your chosen method of calorie burn estimation. I actually honestly don't know how any of the replies so far could be considered deceitful.5 -
Plus, there's no way I will purposely exercise just to burn calories. I exercise with a purpose of getting stronger and faster. If I need to gain or lose weight, I focus on my diet.
^^ Exactly. Also agree that comparing measurements in the manner suggested is not really practical nor valid.1 -
Train with purpose not just to burn calories. I burn the most calories per hour running but to train for a triathlon I also need to swim & bike both of which burn fewer calories per km than running. Similarly strength training is an integral part of any balanced fitness program but compared to most aerobic exercises burns relatively few calories.
I'm all for people encouraging each other but probably the least important metric when exercising is the calorie burn.
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All I hear is reasons why not to do this, they sound like excuses to me9
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akasha9772 wrote: »All I hear is reasons why not to do this, they sound like excuses to me
Okay.
Give us your height, weight, age, and male or female. What type of exercise are you doing?3 -
Plus, there's no way I will purposely exercise just to burn calories. I exercise with a purpose of getting stronger and faster. If I need to gain or lose weight, I focus on my diet.
While I do not think that comparing calories burned exercising in a competitive context as suggested by the OP is useful, I actually exercise primarily to burn cals rather than for fitness but my situation is different than for many others.
Over the past 2 years, I lost over 40#, gained strength, dropped my BF as measured by hydro below 10% and achieved a remarkable level of muscle tone and definition by means of diet control and lifting while doing very little cardio.
I have been in maintenance for the past 18 months and my maintenance level had gotten so low that I was starting to feel food deprived and hungry. The only solution was to exercise more to eat more. So, I started to row 10k meters/day on my C2 rower for an hr/day which burns an additional 550 cals/day -- all of which I eat back.
This has reduced my hunger and increased my intake of protein and other nutrients, while still maintaining my weight. Of course, rowing also has fitness benefits that keep me fit and in shape but those benefits are not the main reason why I am rowing.
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akasha9772 wrote: »All I hear is reasons why not to do this, they sound like excuses to me
Nah.... you're actually taking to people who train regularly and compete and whatnot. We don't train for the calorie burn, we train with the purpose of becoming better are what ever we do which includes crosstraining in different disciplines as well as rest and recovery and following plans that make us better.... not just randomly exercising for some random number.8 -
akasha9772 wrote: »All I hear is reasons why not to do this, they sound like excuses to me
You are hearing reasons, knowledgeable explained reasons - why it's not a useful thing.
If you wish to remain ignorant and think they are excuses - go for it.
Let me get my summer endurance cardio training going and ruin my lifting program as a side effect, and 8 hrs of biking and 3 hrs of running and 1 hr of swimming will likely trample your calorie burn.
No, actually, not going to do that this summer. Lifting is going to remain strong focus before cardio.4 -
What would the point be of said calorie burning competition?2
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akasha9772 wrote: »All I hear is reasons why not to do this, they sound like excuses to me
That's cute. All I'm hearing from you is doubling down and not actually wanting to have any sort of dialogue. I mean we can play this game of "who can burn the most amount of calories in X number of days" if you really want to. I'll give you my Strava username. I'm riding a century tomorrow (or at least that's the plan) and I suspect at least one other person who has replied is riding at least one century within the next month.
I still don't really see the point. I don't train to a specific calorie goal. Speed, power, and/or distance yes. Calories? No.4 -
L1zardQueen wrote: »akasha9772 wrote: »All I hear is reasons why not to do this, they sound like excuses to me
Okay.
Give us your height, weight, age, and male or female. What type of exercise are you doing?
OP must have changed their mind... shame!1 -
akasha9772 wrote: »All I hear is reasons why not to do this, they sound like excuses to me
Ok, since its a Friday and I"m bored, I'll offer some background and reasons why I believe a calorie burn contest doesn't make sense. I'm 60 years old, male, 178lbs. I train under a coach. All of my workouts are tracked by my Garmin 920xt and synced to Training Peaks for analysis.
With that background, I'm currently in Week 17 of a 24 week plan to prepare me for a race on August 19th. I have 8 weeks remaining to race day, so I'm entering the highest volume training weeks in the plan. For example tomorrow = 7 hours(5.5ride/1.5run), Sunday = 4 hours (1.5 Swim, 2.5 run). I will burn lots of calories on these days, but that's not what is important.
The things that ARE important to me (and my coach) are as follows:
1. Weekly Training Stress Score, or TSS, which is a number that tells us how "hard" I've trained based on both duration and intensity of the week's training
2. Fatigue, or ATL. This is the Accumulated Training Load based on a rolling average of my training volume and intensity
3. Fitness, or my current ability based on Cumulative Training Load, or CTL. (The higher this number is, the fitter I am)
4. Form, or race readiness. Think "Fitness minus Fatigue = Form"
5. Recovery - My coach watches for signs that indicate I'm overtraining or not recovering well, which could lead to injury. I love to train, so her biggest job is to get me to the starting line healthy.
6. And Finally - AM I GETTING FASTER?
I'm guessing that many other respondents to your post are follow training programs with similar goals. My strong hunch is that they are not following those programs for "calorie burn", but rather to improve their fitness and/or performance.
So, not only would I not modify/increase my workouts to "win" a "virtual calorie burn" competition, I also fail to see how you could relate your calorie expenditures to someone else in any meaningful way, given variances in human factors, modes of exercise and certainly BIG variances in measurement methods. It just wouldn't make sense.
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While I am no longer interested in responding to the troll, I will put this out here anyway in the event that others will read this and actually want to learn...
Unless you are extremely obese, it is not healthy or smart to lose more than 1-2 pounds per week. To lose 1-2 pounds a week you have to burn 500-1000 calories per day more than you eat (CICO). So let's say I do your silly competition and manage to burn 1500 calories. To stay healthy and not lose muscle and strength I would have to eat an additional 500 calories above my base. And every calorie above that I'd have to eat back.
What is the point of that?3 -
akasha9772 wrote: »Anyone wanna push each other to see how many calories we can burn? A friendly competition. I have a Garmin 235 HR GPS watch, so my count is accurate.
So - when does this start? I burned 2,967 calories on my century ride according to Garmin who got the power data from my Powertap pedals.
On a more serious note, I'm not actually sure I'll easily be able to eat all of those back. So far, roughly estimating I've consumed 2973 calories - my goal, not taking exercise and walking into account, is 1,600 net. My stomach is currently saying "no more" in terms of food (I am typing this with food in front of me.1 -
akasha9772 wrote: »Anyone wanna push each other to see how many calories we can burn? A friendly competition. I have a Garmin 235 HR GPS watch, so my count is accurate.
So - when does this start? I burned 2,967 calories on my century ride according to Garmin who got the power data from my Powertap pedals.
On a more serious note, I'm not actually sure I'll easily be able to eat all of those back. So far, roughly estimating I've consumed 2973 calories - my goal, not taking exercise and walking into account, is 1,600 net. My stomach is currently saying "no more" in terms of food (I am typing this with food in front of me.
I did about 4000 yesterday. A trail marathon, about 27 miles with 1000 metres of elevation.
Really struggled to eat more than about 800 calories last night, and my stomach still hasn't settled.0 -
akasha9772 wrote: »Anyone wanna push each other to see how many calories we can burn? A friendly competition. I have a Garmin 235 HR GPS watch, so my count is accurate.
So - when does this start? I burned 2,967 calories on my century ride according to Garmin who got the power data from my Powertap pedals.
On a more serious note, I'm not actually sure I'll easily be able to eat all of those back. So far, roughly estimating I've consumed 2973 calories - my goal, not taking exercise and walking into account, is 1,600 net. My stomach is currently saying "no more" in terms of food (I am typing this with food in front of me.
That's always an issue for my after my long runs. I can't eat enough food to replace the energy spent. However, I have no problem making up for it for a few days afterward.
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8000+ weekly calorie burn through running and walking.0
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BrianSharpe wrote: »Train with purpose not just to burn calories. I burn the most calories per hour running but to train for a triathlon I also need to swim & bike both of which burn fewer calories per km than running. Similarly strength training is an integral part of any balanced fitness program but compared to most aerobic exercises burns relatively few calories.
I'm all for people encouraging each other but probably the least important metric when exercising is the calorie burn.
All of this^
OP - perhaps you are a very large person....I am not, so I guess you "win." My point is a large person is going to burn more (doing anything) than a small person will.
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Yeah anything over 45 or 50 miles and I am have a lot of trouble eating back the calories day of. The only exception is if I stop at my favorite Salvadorian food cart on my way back and get a "dago sandwich". It consists of a hogie like roll filled with fried plantain, bistec encebollado, and curtido. One of their customers asked for it so often that they put it on the menu and named it after him. More often than not I'll eat half of it and take the rest with me on the three or so miles it takes to get from there to my car.akasha9772 wrote: »Anyone wanna push each other to see how many calories we can burn? A friendly competition. I have a Garmin 235 HR GPS watch, so my count is accurate.
So - when does this start? I burned 2,967 calories on my century ride according to Garmin who got the power data from my Powertap pedals.
On a more serious note, I'm not actually sure I'll easily be able to eat all of those back. So far, roughly estimating I've consumed 2973 calories - my goal, not taking exercise and walking into account, is 1,600 net. My stomach is currently saying "no more" in terms of food (I am typing this with food in front of me.
That's always an issue for my after my long runs. I can't eat enough food to replace the energy spent. However, I have no problem making up for it for a few days afterward.
That said, I have cake that "needs" to be eaten today and will probably have a hamburger for lunch.0 -
akasha9772 wrote: »Anyone wanna push each other to see how many calories we can burn? A friendly competition. I have a Garmin 235 HR GPS watch, so my count is accurate.
That's a nice random number generator.0 -
I sometimes train based on a calorie goal. I use a power meter on the bike and when doing endurance work I shoot for 2000 calories burned while biking, I also know coaches who do the same thing. I actually shoot for 11,000 calories burned during my training weeks and other goals such as two hard days, and one long ride, and two easy days....
And I sometimes burn 4000-5000 calories on a ride and can easily get caught up from that deficit in two glorious days of eating. In fact I know I had a great ride when I hit 4000 calories burned. And just as a FYI, I weigh 132 so smaller people can keep up. I can burn 700-800 calories on moderate effort ride of an hour.
We all chase goals. Sometimes it’s average speed, sometimes its average power, or distance...why can’t someone occasionally chase calories burned in a day?
Lots of harshness on this thread. Seems odd to me as energy used is a training metric, an important one actually.
And I am pretty darn fit to be 48 years old...so it can’t be all that bad. Sure people can screw it up...people can screw up and harm themselves with almost everything.
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