Obesity/Weight loss issues
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champion818
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To give you a brief summary about me , I do suffer from obesity and have a major weight problem. I can safely say that a majority of my weight gain has been within a period of 2 years. From the age of 18 - 20 years old I have managed to put on a whopping 80 pounds . May of 2018 I weighed in at 305 pounds and since then have lost around 17 pounds which puts me at 286. I have struggled with gaining a mass amount and loosing for a while. This time I feel like it has been a tougher time for me because I actually hit 300 pounds and that was a weight I told myself I would never reach. I do not suffer from binge eating disorder because I never sit and just eat a mass amount of food . I believe I make poor decisions on what I eat overall. Looking back at how I ate food , I could have easily been consuming 4,000 calories a day . Now I consume 1,700 -2,000 calories a day which keeps me satisfied . I do light exercise and occasionally go to the gym during the week. ( no set plan , just come and go when i have time). I have been following this for about 2 months now .
I have tried many ways to loose weight such as weight watchers , hiring a personal trainer and counting calories. Through my attempts I always fail to loose the weight necessary and become highly discouraged. The struggle with my morbid obesity has been very tough for me . My whole life I have been over weight , but now that im a young adult Its become a huge burden to my body and social life. I have spoken to my doctor about my concerns regarding my obesity and we have done blood tests which all came back fine. He did mention if I was interested in doing weight loss surgery to help with my obesity and that is something I have been considering for almost a year alone. Medically I believe I qualify , due to my BMI of 42.5 and having asthma along with it. I want to see a nutritionist and bariatric doctor so I can be consulted and exhaust all my other options before I truely do the surgery ( if i get approved). Overall Im just tired of gaining so much weight after I loose a small amount. My life has been dramatically affected and want a change.
I have tried many ways to loose weight such as weight watchers , hiring a personal trainer and counting calories. Through my attempts I always fail to loose the weight necessary and become highly discouraged. The struggle with my morbid obesity has been very tough for me . My whole life I have been over weight , but now that im a young adult Its become a huge burden to my body and social life. I have spoken to my doctor about my concerns regarding my obesity and we have done blood tests which all came back fine. He did mention if I was interested in doing weight loss surgery to help with my obesity and that is something I have been considering for almost a year alone. Medically I believe I qualify , due to my BMI of 42.5 and having asthma along with it. I want to see a nutritionist and bariatric doctor so I can be consulted and exhaust all my other options before I truely do the surgery ( if i get approved). Overall Im just tired of gaining so much weight after I loose a small amount. My life has been dramatically affected and want a change.
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Obesity is reversed by eating in a calorie deficit. You lose weight if you stick to the amount of calories MFP gave you at setup.2
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I understand that science as I have lost 17 pounds purely through a caloric deficit . I guess my question is more on a vent / looking for an in depth advice2
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If you need advice, I think you need to ask a question.4
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Understood1
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You might want to have your thyroid checked as well. It can hinder you without you knowing it’s the cause. Speaking from experience.1
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Hey ! I had my thyroid levels checked and they were normal , good thing0
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You might be dealing with Insulin resistance.
The full mapping of understanding it is this:
Your pancreas is located in the left lower quadrant right by your rib cage and makes a hormone called insulin.
Insulin response to sugar – it is triggered by anything that has sugar or turns into sugar like bread.
Insulin removes sugar from your blood. Normally, in your blood, you need about 100 milligrams of sugar per desolator.
Anything higher or lower than 100 is bad. When it goes higher than 100, you'll get diabetes.
When it goes lower than 100, you will get hypoglycemia.
Hypoglycemia is when you are skipping meals and eating way too much sugar, triggering high insulin in your blood sugar to drop.
Over a period of time, your body doesn’t like this and it will turn off the receptor and ignore the insulin response – this is called a blocked receptor and this is insulin resistance.
It forces insulin to go higher and make more to create the same affect. Without insulin, your blood sugar will stay high and wear out the pancreas.
Diabetes is really a situation where you have high sugar and it won’t come down to 100 passed the hypoglycemia with type II diabetes.
Then there is insulin resistance because you have been eating too much sugar.
Your body protects you and several things happen as a consequence, like you will be hungry because insulin has other purposes.
The insulin lowers the sugar level in the blood and helps you absorb the nutrition in your cells like fatty acids, proteins, and vitamins.
Without insulin, you can’t get the nutrition in your cells and you’re going to be hungry all the time because you eat but you don’t absorb the nutrients.
So, you will have a fat person that is starving to death and craving carbohydrates. If you are craving carbs or sweets, it is impossible to burn fat.
That’s why, over time, diabetes patients have other health problems – they may go blind, have destructive nerve in the feet and the hands and it goes downhill healthwise.
This condition will prevent the storage of sugar in the liver and muscles which we live off while we sleep.
If you can’t store the sugar as much anymore, you will end up having problems with storing more fat.
If you are not storing sugar, you will end up storing fat and you will get bigger and bigger. In between the meals, because you can’t store sugar, you’re going to have too many highs and too many lows.
It’s the storage of sugar that maintains a nice level.
In your entire body, you only need 1 teaspoon (5 grams) of sugar - not directly from sugar but from the foods that you eat.
Even protein and fat can be converted into sugar. An 8 oz typical can of soda or orange juice has about 39 teaspoons of sugar - that is a tremendous stress on the pancreas.
The pancreas has two parts – a hormone and the other is an enzyme part called the exocrine gland.
If you continue eating high sugar, you’re going to have all sorts of digestion problems such as:
inflammation of the pancreas
pain in your back
can’t digest protein
bowel problems
gas
bloating, etc.
The body is trying to protect itself from too much insulin by blocking receptors and create resistance, and the sugar is going to go high.
The body is going to protect the cell from too much insulin and not the blood – that’s why the blood starts filling up with sugar.
Triglycerides are blood fats. Because the cell can’t absorb nutrition, protein, or fat, it’s going to be dumped in the blood as blood fats and cholesterol. In type I diabetes, the pancreas is asleep. It’s the worst you can get because then, you will have to be injected with insulin.
What Can Be Done
You will need to lower insulin by doing these things:
If you are craving sugars, you should be consuming zero sugars. You can have substitutes like Stevia.
Increase potassium because it will help lower insulin and help you store sugar.
You will want to get potassium from food such as cruciferous, about 7 to 10 cups of vegetables per day or you can take the kale shake.
Eating vegetables will help lower cravings.
Increase vitamin B1 not from a pill but from nutritional yeast which will greatly assist with lower insulin. When you consume a bunch of sugar, you’re dumping B1 and other nutrition out of your body in your urine.
Consume protein especially for breakfast because it is a nutrient. If you don’t, your blood sugar level will be off by the end of the day.14 -
OP, if you keep losing 20ish lbs then gaining it all back, that means you are going back to eating too many calories.
Perhaps you are restricting your diet too much when you are losing, so you understandably fall off the wagon, anyone would. Have you tried not restricting your food choices too much, making sure you fit treats into your calorie allotment?
Are you always trying to lose weight quickly? That can backfire, so have you tried losing at a more moderate pace and being patient?
Is it possible you have emotional issues tied to your eating or weight? Have you considered speaking to a therapist who specializes in this sort of thing?
I ask these questions, because NONE of that will be changed by weight loss surgery. WLS has helped a lot of people, but there have also been plenty of people who had surgery and slowly but surely pushed the boundaries of the control their surgery caused until they were right back where they started.
My own personal opinion, which you can feel free to take or leave as I'm a random stranger on the interwebs, is that weight loss surgery should be a last ditch effort when your health is on the line. I know others disagree with that. Ultimately, you are the one who has to be right with the decision and live with the results. WLS is by no means an easy path, so I'm just wondering if you might still have less invasive options left before heading in that direction. Whatever you decide, hang in there and best of luck :flowerforyou:5 -
grayjoseph10 wrote: »You might be dealing with Insulin resistance.
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Considering OP has been clear that she has been through all the typical medical tests, I can't see how this post is relevant.
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Weight loss takes patience and persistence. Weight loss with bariatric surgery takes slightly less patience during the weight loss phase but still requires patience and persistence. Weight loss is a marathon, not a sprint. After you've lost the weight, you need to have a comfortable way of eating that will let you maintain that new weight or else you're likely to just gain it all back.
You want to craft a sustainable way of eating. Start by logging everything that goes into your mouth for a couple of weeks without making any changes to your intake. You can then look back through to see where you might eat smaller portions and/or make satisfying lower-calorie substitutions.
Concentrate on the process. Do what you need to do and the scale will show that in the long term. As long as your weight drifts downward over time, you are moving in the right direction.4 -
Honestly , I don’t feel like I’m
Restricted at all . I eat pretty much whatever I want as long as it fits within my calories . I think my main issue is that I abuse food. I would eat just because , no real reasoning behind it . Not even hunger or emotion just pure bad decisions . I’ve been angry , sad and happy all through out these past 2 months in which not once did that cause me to over eat . I believe my bad habits are what’s getting the best to me . Plus the lack of structure , example ... I know I hold myself accountable , but having that extra reinforcement would be nice . I agree WLS is a last ditch effort ! That’s why I would love to exhaust all my options ( hopefully succeeding) before I even get the surgery ! I know I’ll have to diet for at least 6 months with a nutritionist before getting approval so I’m already on a jump start , from 305 now at 286 this morning , in 2 1/2 I’ve done that ! I will hopefully be down to 270 near September if all goes well0 -
You say you have lost 17 pounds since May. That is a good amount to lose. You also say you are satisfied with the amount of calories you are getting so I say just keep doing what you are doing. You can tweak things a bit along the way but if you are losing a pound or two a week that is perfect. Just make sure you incorporate foods you enjoy in your calorie allowance.
Remember that there will be weeks when you don't lose or you even go up a bit but don't let that do a number on your head and ruin your hard work. It will go down again it takes time and patience. You will get there.
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manderson27 wrote: »You say you have lost 17 pounds since May. That is a good amount to lose. You also say you are satisfied with the amount of calories you are getting so I say just keep doing what you are doing. You can tweak things a bit along the way but if you are losing a pound or two a week that is perfect. Just make sure you incorporate foods you enjoy in your calorie allowance.
Remember that there will be weeks when you don't lose or you even go up a bit but don't let that do a number on your head and ruin your hard work. It will go down again it takes time and patience. You will get there.
Thankyou so much ! That means allot2 -
If you keep the bad habits, you can easily eat your way around WLS. It's still up to you to do what you need to do. Surgeons and insurance companies make you jump through so many hoops before surgery to try to weed out the patients who won't do the work needed on their end.
WLS is a tool but you still do the work.2 -
I was going to have weight loss surgery but have lost 30lb by incorporating fasting in to my diet. I am 295 lb at the moment and was 336 at start of year. The Obesity code and complete guide to fasting by Dr Jason Fung are worth a read. or watch video online for free.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIuj-oMN-Fk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F5o0a4p_3U
https://idmprogram.com/fasting-ghrelin-fasting-29/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt1DOJXAXFg
Might be worth looking into is you have tried lots of other things already.
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RunawayCurves wrote: »The Obesity code and complete guide to fasting by Dr Jason Fung are worth a read.
No they are not. Fung is a quack.
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It has worked better for me than any other food lifestyle change I have ever done.6
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RunawayCurves wrote: »The Obesity code and complete guide to fasting by Dr Jason Fung are worth a read.
Only if you enjoy fiction. Here's a scientific rebuttal to Fung's quackery, in which his derp is completely debunked: https://www.myoleanfitness.com/evidence-caloric-restriction/
OP simply needs to consume less calories than she expends. That's how weight loss happens.5
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