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  • ccrdragon
    ccrdragon Posts: 3,367 Member
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    RedPowder wrote: »
    Hello everyone,

    So a big part of me putting weight on was Energy drinks the other part just not eating right at all but anyways do you have any suggestions on what can give me just as much energy as a can ? Are these suger free energy drinks just as bad as the regular ones? Well besides the surgers.

    Additives? Caffeine ? Why do more people not drink them if they’re just craving something sweet?


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    So in my eyes they are bad for you. I know that there isn’t enough research done out there to prove this but this is all just my opinion. There will be high levels of caffeine in these drinks which can cause restlessness to muscle tremors .. if I were you I would just knock these on the head (or have a very minimal amount) and try to get your energy from having more sleep, exercise, controlling your stress etc.

    A serving of Monster has less caffeine than 8 ounces of coffee (86 mg vs 95 mg). Do you consider a cup of coffee to also be bad for someone?

    (Note: a can usually has more than one serving, but it isn't unusual for coffee drinkers to order a coffee larger than 8 ounces either).

    I think too much coffee is bad for you absolutely .. I don’t drink it as it makes me get palpitations as does energy drinks so I avoid both of them, I think things like coffee are ok in moderation dependant on your tolerance to it. But energy drinks just seem to be a lot worse due to being carbonated, full of sugar (unless sugar free but then it’ll have sweeteners which aren’t too great) I would always advise to just try and avoid both to be honest .. but that’s just me

    Nobody is advocating that someone consume energy drinks immoderately.

    I'm not sure why carbonation makes anything worse. OP is specifically asking about sugar-free drinks, so the sugar is a non-issue. What is not "too great" about artificial sweeteners?

    If this was just you, whatever. Don't drink what you don't want to drink. But OP asked for advice on his situation so I think it's more helpful for our advice to be grounded in facts rather than our personal preferences. For what it's worth, I'd never drink energy drinks either because I hate the taste. But that has nothing to do with OP's situation.

    I did actually answer his question at first and gave him my opinion on going sugar free on energy drinks (which was to just try to avoid altogether) have you actually answered his question or have you just spent the entire time picking at other people’s opinions? ....

    If you read the thread, you'll see that I was one of the first people to address his question.

    Telling someone to avoid something altogether isn't that helpful if you can't provide a valid reason *why* it should be avoided.

    I would never suggest people touch energy drinks they are just pumped full of crap. They are in no way ideal for the body, I would always suggest trying other healthier alternatives like maybe some green tea (that really wakes me up) or something else natural .. whoever thinks drinking energy drinks is good for you is pretty stupid ....

    This is so subjective. You're talking about your feelings. Going on factual information is going to be more useful to OP. "Pumped full of crap"? What does that actually mean? Your subjective feelings about energy drinks are useless to OP.

    Nobody is arguing that energy drinks are "good for you," we're arguing that there is no evidence that moderate consumption of energy drinks is bad for someone. Those are two different things. Can you grasp that?

    Do you have any evidence that drinking sugar-free energy drinks, in moderation, will be a problem for the average person? If so, free free to provide that.

    Emotional Risks
    Energy drinks may negatively impact a person's moods and emotional health. According to Mayo Clinic physical medicine and rehabilitation specialist, Edward R. Laskowski, M.D., energy drinks may cause irritability, restlessness and nervousness.
    Since people vary in caffeine sensitivity, some individuals may experience intense emotional effects shortly after consuming energy drinks and more significant "crash" effects once the stimulants wear off. Those with psychological disorders, such as anxiety and depression, may stand at heightened risk for these effects.

    Physical Risks
    Depending upon the ingredients and how much volume a person consumes, energy drinks may cause adverse physical symptoms. According to Dr. Laskowski, energy drinks are known to cause rapid heartbeat and blood pressure increases. People may experience irregular heart rhythms, which are sometimes dangerous.

    Ok, so for some small segment of the population, the energy drinks may cause problems... doesn't mean that all people should stay away from them. Peanuts are DEADLY for a small segment of the population - would you then advocate that ALL people should eliminate peanut consumption?
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
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    ccrdragon wrote: »
    RedPowder wrote: »
    Hello everyone,

    So a big part of me putting weight on was Energy drinks the other part just not eating right at all but anyways do you have any suggestions on what can give me just as much energy as a can ? Are these suger free energy drinks just as bad as the regular ones? Well besides the surgers.

    Additives? Caffeine ? Why do more people not drink them if they’re just craving something sweet?


    rmqq55exnzpo.jpeg
    cgfmmf955m9y.jpeg

    So in my eyes they are bad for you. I know that there isn’t enough research done out there to prove this but this is all just my opinion. There will be high levels of caffeine in these drinks which can cause restlessness to muscle tremors .. if I were you I would just knock these on the head (or have a very minimal amount) and try to get your energy from having more sleep, exercise, controlling your stress etc.

    A serving of Monster has less caffeine than 8 ounces of coffee (86 mg vs 95 mg). Do you consider a cup of coffee to also be bad for someone?

    (Note: a can usually has more than one serving, but it isn't unusual for coffee drinkers to order a coffee larger than 8 ounces either).

    I think too much coffee is bad for you absolutely .. I don’t drink it as it makes me get palpitations as does energy drinks so I avoid both of them, I think things like coffee are ok in moderation dependant on your tolerance to it. But energy drinks just seem to be a lot worse due to being carbonated, full of sugar (unless sugar free but then it’ll have sweeteners which aren’t too great) I would always advise to just try and avoid both to be honest .. but that’s just me

    Nobody is advocating that someone consume energy drinks immoderately.

    I'm not sure why carbonation makes anything worse. OP is specifically asking about sugar-free drinks, so the sugar is a non-issue. What is not "too great" about artificial sweeteners?

    If this was just you, whatever. Don't drink what you don't want to drink. But OP asked for advice on his situation so I think it's more helpful for our advice to be grounded in facts rather than our personal preferences. For what it's worth, I'd never drink energy drinks either because I hate the taste. But that has nothing to do with OP's situation.

    I did actually answer his question at first and gave him my opinion on going sugar free on energy drinks (which was to just try to avoid altogether) have you actually answered his question or have you just spent the entire time picking at other people’s opinions? ....

    If you read the thread, you'll see that I was one of the first people to address his question.

    Telling someone to avoid something altogether isn't that helpful if you can't provide a valid reason *why* it should be avoided.

    I would never suggest people touch energy drinks they are just pumped full of crap. They are in no way ideal for the body, I would always suggest trying other healthier alternatives like maybe some green tea (that really wakes me up) or something else natural .. whoever thinks drinking energy drinks is good for you is pretty stupid ....

    This is so subjective. You're talking about your feelings. Going on factual information is going to be more useful to OP. "Pumped full of crap"? What does that actually mean? Your subjective feelings about energy drinks are useless to OP.

    Nobody is arguing that energy drinks are "good for you," we're arguing that there is no evidence that moderate consumption of energy drinks is bad for someone. Those are two different things. Can you grasp that?

    Do you have any evidence that drinking sugar-free energy drinks, in moderation, will be a problem for the average person? If so, free free to provide that.

    Emotional Risks
    Energy drinks may negatively impact a person's moods and emotional health. According to Mayo Clinic physical medicine and rehabilitation specialist, Edward R. Laskowski, M.D., energy drinks may cause irritability, restlessness and nervousness.
    Since people vary in caffeine sensitivity, some individuals may experience intense emotional effects shortly after consuming energy drinks and more significant "crash" effects once the stimulants wear off. Those with psychological disorders, such as anxiety and depression, may stand at heightened risk for these effects.

    Physical Risks
    Depending upon the ingredients and how much volume a person consumes, energy drinks may cause adverse physical symptoms. According to Dr. Laskowski, energy drinks are known to cause rapid heartbeat and blood pressure increases. People may experience irregular heart rhythms, which are sometimes dangerous.

    Ok, so for some small segment of the population, the energy drinks may cause problems... doesn't mean that all people should stay away from them. Peanuts are DEADLY for a small segment of the population - would you then advocate that ALL people should eliminate peanut consumption?

    My point is just to show the cons of energy drinks sugar free or full of sugar, they come with bad potential side effects which is why I cut them out ... and yes I think people should avoid eating peanuts in public places encase someone who is allergic is nearby .. but that’s a whole different topic

    Avoiding eating peanuts in public due to an abundance of caution for those around you who may suffer from allergies is completely different than *eliminating* all consumption of peanuts even in private. Does that distinction register for you?

  • CharlieBeansmomTracey
    CharlieBeansmomTracey Posts: 7,682 Member
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    RedPowder wrote: »
    Hello everyone,

    So a big part of me putting weight on was Energy drinks the other part just not eating right at all but anyways do you have any suggestions on what can give me just as much energy as a can ? Are these suger free energy drinks just as bad as the regular ones? Well besides the surgers.

    Additives? Caffeine ? Why do more people not drink them if they’re just craving something sweet?


    rmqq55exnzpo.jpeg
    cgfmmf955m9y.jpeg

    So in my eyes they are bad for you. I know that there isn’t enough research done out there to prove this but this is all just my opinion. There will be high levels of caffeine in these drinks which can cause restlessness to muscle tremors .. if I were you I would just knock these on the head (or have a very minimal amount) and try to get your energy from having more sleep, exercise, controlling your stress etc.

    A serving of Monster has less caffeine than 8 ounces of coffee (86 mg vs 95 mg). Do you consider a cup of coffee to also be bad for someone?

    (Note: a can usually has more than one serving, but it isn't unusual for coffee drinkers to order a coffee larger than 8 ounces either).

    I think too much coffee is bad for you absolutely .. I don’t drink it as it makes me get palpitations as does energy drinks so I avoid both of them, I think things like coffee are ok in moderation dependant on your tolerance to it. But energy drinks just seem to be a lot worse due to being carbonated, full of sugar (unless sugar free but then it’ll have sweeteners which aren’t too great) I would always advise to just try and avoid both to be honest .. but that’s just me

    Nobody is advocating that someone consume energy drinks immoderately.

    I'm not sure why carbonation makes anything worse. OP is specifically asking about sugar-free drinks, so the sugar is a non-issue. What is not "too great" about artificial sweeteners?

    If this was just you, whatever. Don't drink what you don't want to drink. But OP asked for advice on his situation so I think it's more helpful for our advice to be grounded in facts rather than our personal preferences. For what it's worth, I'd never drink energy drinks either because I hate the taste. But that has nothing to do with OP's situation.

    I did actually answer his question at first and gave him my opinion on going sugar free on energy drinks (which was to just try to avoid altogether) have you actually answered his question or have you just spent the entire time picking at other people’s opinions? ....

    If you read the thread, you'll see that I was one of the first people to address his question.

    Telling someone to avoid something altogether isn't that helpful if you can't provide a valid reason *why* it should be avoided.

    I would never suggest people touch energy drinks they are just pumped full of crap. They are in no way ideal for the body, I would always suggest trying other healthier alternatives like maybe some green tea (that really wakes me up) or something else natural .. whoever thinks drinking energy drinks is good for you is pretty stupid ....

    This is so subjective. You're talking about your feelings. Going on factual information is going to be more useful to OP. "Pumped full of crap"? What does that actually mean? Your subjective feelings about energy drinks are useless to OP.

    Nobody is arguing that energy drinks are "good for you," we're arguing that there is no evidence that moderate consumption of energy drinks is bad for someone. Those are two different things. Can you grasp that?

    Do you have any evidence that drinking sugar-free energy drinks, in moderation, will be a problem for the average person? If so, free free to provide that.

    Emotional Risks
    Energy drinks may negatively impact a person's moods and emotional health. According to Mayo Clinic physical medicine and rehabilitation specialist, Edward R. Laskowski, M.D., energy drinks may cause irritability, restlessness and nervousness.
    Since people vary in caffeine sensitivity, some individuals may experience intense emotional effects shortly after consuming energy drinks and more significant "crash" effects once the stimulants wear off. Those with psychological disorders, such as anxiety and depression, may stand at heightened risk for these effects.

    Physical Risks
    Depending upon the ingredients and how much volume a person consumes, energy drinks may cause adverse physical symptoms. According to Dr. Laskowski, energy drinks are known to cause rapid heartbeat and blood pressure increases. People may experience irregular heart rhythms, which are sometimes dangerous.

    well my daughter has anxiety and it causes her no ill effects. son has ADHD/ODD and an energy drink calms him down. same with coffee. but then he doesnt drink them all the time and neither does she. coffee can do the same thing for many who are sensitive to caffeine. coffee is a natural source so cant see how its bad for you. theres alspo caffeine in chocolate
  • mph323
    mph323 Posts: 3,565 Member
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    RedPowder wrote: »
    Hello everyone,

    So a big part of me putting weight on was Energy drinks the other part just not eating right at all but anyways do you have any suggestions on what can give me just as much energy as a can ? Are these suger free energy drinks just as bad as the regular ones? Well besides the surgers.

    Additives? Caffeine ? Why do more people not drink them if they’re just craving something sweet?


    rmqq55exnzpo.jpeg
    cgfmmf955m9y.jpeg

    So in my eyes they are bad for you. I know that there isn’t enough research done out there to prove this but this is all just my opinion. There will be high levels of caffeine in these drinks which can cause restlessness to muscle tremors .. if I were you I would just knock these on the head (or have a very minimal amount) and try to get your energy from having more sleep, exercise, controlling your stress etc.

    A serving of Monster has less caffeine than 8 ounces of coffee (86 mg vs 95 mg). Do you consider a cup of coffee to also be bad for someone?

    (Note: a can usually has more than one serving, but it isn't unusual for coffee drinkers to order a coffee larger than 8 ounces either).

    I think too much coffee is bad for you absolutely .. I don’t drink it as it makes me get palpitations as does energy drinks so I avoid both of them, I think things like coffee are ok in moderation dependant on your tolerance to it. But energy drinks just seem to be a lot worse due to being carbonated, full of sugar (unless sugar free but then it’ll have sweeteners which aren’t too great) I would always advise to just try and avoid both to be honest .. but that’s just me

    Nobody is advocating that someone consume energy drinks immoderately.

    I'm not sure why carbonation makes anything worse. OP is specifically asking about sugar-free drinks, so the sugar is a non-issue. What is not "too great" about artificial sweeteners?

    If this was just you, whatever. Don't drink what you don't want to drink. But OP asked for advice on his situation so I think it's more helpful for our advice to be grounded in facts rather than our personal preferences. For what it's worth, I'd never drink energy drinks either because I hate the taste. But that has nothing to do with OP's situation.

    I did actually answer his question at first and gave him my opinion on going sugar free on energy drinks (which was to just try to avoid altogether) have you actually answered his question or have you just spent the entire time picking at other people’s opinions? ....

    If you read the thread, you'll see that I was one of the first people to address his question.

    Telling someone to avoid something altogether isn't that helpful if you can't provide a valid reason *why* it should be avoided.

    I would never suggest people touch energy drinks they are just pumped full of crap. They are in no way ideal for the body, I would always suggest trying other healthier alternatives like maybe some green tea (that really wakes me up) or something else natural .. whoever thinks drinking energy drinks is good for you is pretty stupid ....

    This is so subjective. You're talking about your feelings. Going on factual information is going to be more useful to OP. "Pumped full of crap"? What does that actually mean? Your subjective feelings about energy drinks are useless to OP.

    Nobody is arguing that energy drinks are "good for you," we're arguing that there is no evidence that moderate consumption of energy drinks is bad for someone. Those are two different things. Can you grasp that?

    Do you have any evidence that drinking sugar-free energy drinks, in moderation, will be a problem for the average person? If so, free free to provide that.

    Emotional Risks
    Energy drinks may negatively impact a person's moods and emotional health. According to Mayo Clinic physical medicine and rehabilitation specialist, Edward R. Laskowski, M.D., energy drinks may cause irritability, restlessness and nervousness.
    Since people vary in caffeine sensitivity, some individuals may experience intense emotional effects shortly after consuming energy drinks and more significant "crash" effects once the stimulants wear off. Those with psychological disorders, such as anxiety and depression, may stand at heightened risk for these effects.

    Physical Risks
    Depending upon the ingredients and how much volume a person consumes, energy drinks may cause adverse physical symptoms. According to Dr. Laskowski, energy drinks are known to cause rapid heartbeat and blood pressure increases. People may experience irregular heart rhythms, which are sometimes dangerous.

    What you're describing here is adverse reactions to caffeine, not energy drinks specifically. It's well-documented that some people can be more or less sensitive to caffeine, the way some people can be more or less sensitive to msg, for instance. Those people should regulate all sources of caffeine (or msg, or whatever else they have a sensitivity to). The conclusion that since some people are sensitive to caffeine (common knowledge) everyone should avoid energy drinks (but apparently not coffee or soda) is nonsensical.
  • CharlieBeansmomTracey
    CharlieBeansmomTracey Posts: 7,682 Member
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    mph323 wrote: »
    RedPowder wrote: »
    Hello everyone,

    So a big part of me putting weight on was Energy drinks the other part just not eating right at all but anyways do you have any suggestions on what can give me just as much energy as a can ? Are these suger free energy drinks just as bad as the regular ones? Well besides the surgers.

    Additives? Caffeine ? Why do more people not drink them if they’re just craving something sweet?


    rmqq55exnzpo.jpeg
    cgfmmf955m9y.jpeg

    So in my eyes they are bad for you. I know that there isn’t enough research done out there to prove this but this is all just my opinion. There will be high levels of caffeine in these drinks which can cause restlessness to muscle tremors .. if I were you I would just knock these on the head (or have a very minimal amount) and try to get your energy from having more sleep, exercise, controlling your stress etc.

    A serving of Monster has less caffeine than 8 ounces of coffee (86 mg vs 95 mg). Do you consider a cup of coffee to also be bad for someone?

    (Note: a can usually has more than one serving, but it isn't unusual for coffee drinkers to order a coffee larger than 8 ounces either).

    I think too much coffee is bad for you absolutely .. I don’t drink it as it makes me get palpitations as does energy drinks so I avoid both of them, I think things like coffee are ok in moderation dependant on your tolerance to it. But energy drinks just seem to be a lot worse due to being carbonated, full of sugar (unless sugar free but then it’ll have sweeteners which aren’t too great) I would always advise to just try and avoid both to be honest .. but that’s just me

    Nobody is advocating that someone consume energy drinks immoderately.

    I'm not sure why carbonation makes anything worse. OP is specifically asking about sugar-free drinks, so the sugar is a non-issue. What is not "too great" about artificial sweeteners?

    If this was just you, whatever. Don't drink what you don't want to drink. But OP asked for advice on his situation so I think it's more helpful for our advice to be grounded in facts rather than our personal preferences. For what it's worth, I'd never drink energy drinks either because I hate the taste. But that has nothing to do with OP's situation.

    I did actually answer his question at first and gave him my opinion on going sugar free on energy drinks (which was to just try to avoid altogether) have you actually answered his question or have you just spent the entire time picking at other people’s opinions? ....

    If you read the thread, you'll see that I was one of the first people to address his question.

    Telling someone to avoid something altogether isn't that helpful if you can't provide a valid reason *why* it should be avoided.

    I would never suggest people touch energy drinks they are just pumped full of crap. They are in no way ideal for the body, I would always suggest trying other healthier alternatives like maybe some green tea (that really wakes me up) or something else natural .. whoever thinks drinking energy drinks is good for you is pretty stupid ....

    This is so subjective. You're talking about your feelings. Going on factual information is going to be more useful to OP. "Pumped full of crap"? What does that actually mean? Your subjective feelings about energy drinks are useless to OP.

    Nobody is arguing that energy drinks are "good for you," we're arguing that there is no evidence that moderate consumption of energy drinks is bad for someone. Those are two different things. Can you grasp that?

    Do you have any evidence that drinking sugar-free energy drinks, in moderation, will be a problem for the average person? If so, free free to provide that.

    Emotional Risks
    Energy drinks may negatively impact a person's moods and emotional health. According to Mayo Clinic physical medicine and rehabilitation specialist, Edward R. Laskowski, M.D., energy drinks may cause irritability, restlessness and nervousness.
    Since people vary in caffeine sensitivity, some individuals may experience intense emotional effects shortly after consuming energy drinks and more significant "crash" effects once the stimulants wear off. Those with psychological disorders, such as anxiety and depression, may stand at heightened risk for these effects.

    Physical Risks
    Depending upon the ingredients and how much volume a person consumes, energy drinks may cause adverse physical symptoms. According to Dr. Laskowski, energy drinks are known to cause rapid heartbeat and blood pressure increases. People may experience irregular heart rhythms, which are sometimes dangerous.

    What you're describing here is adverse reactions to caffeine, not energy drinks specifically. It's well-documented that some people can be more or less sensitive to caffeine, the way some people can be more or less sensitive to msg, for instance. Those people should regulate all sources of caffeine (or msg, or whatever else they have a sensitivity to). The conclusion that since some people are sensitive to caffeine (common knowledge) everyone should avoid energy drinks (but apparently not coffee or soda) is nonsensical.

    I agree and for many it will be an excess of caffeine for some it may take a very low amount of caffeine. I was drinking a pot or 2 of coffee a day in the past. no issues at all and I slept well at night. I do have heart issues too but seems like caffeine doesnt aggravate it.
  • RedPowder
    RedPowder Posts: 44 Member
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    I’ve been drinking coffee from a early age and energy drinks to so my caffeine tolerance is very high I was just unsure about the sweetners they used because of what I heard but I can say I’ve had them before and never had a issue. I’m still drinking around 25oz of coffee a day and maybe 3 or 4 monster ultras a week. I’ve tried cutting coffee out but I get head aches so for now I’ll just keep drinking it until I have the opportunity to ween myself off it.

    PS: If anyone wants to add me feel free I’ll be keeping my diary open so if anyone wants to give me tips or throw some advice my way they’re welcome to.
  • paperpudding
    paperpudding Posts: 9,024 Member
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    Yes headaches from sudden caffeine cessation is a common thing - caffeine is mildly addictive.

    OPis not planning to stop drinking energy drinks or caffeine sources at all - but yes if anyone is planning this for whatever reason, best to do it gradually.
    Or expect that headaches might happen and be prepared to put up with them for a little while till your body adjusts -I'm guessing this would take a few weeks.
  • RedPowder
    RedPowder Posts: 44 Member
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  • COGypsy
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    My favorite morning flavor!
  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
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    RedPowder wrote: »
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    The purple one is dope.
    There's apparently also a blue and a black one but I can't find them anywhere.
  • CharlieBeansmomTracey
    CharlieBeansmomTracey Posts: 7,682 Member
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    RedPowder wrote: »
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    The purple one is dope.
    There's apparently also a blue and a black one but I can't find them anywhere.

    theres a light blue can,a white can(both of these have a silver design) theres a black can with dark blue M we can get these around here(I dont drink them though dont like the taste). theres also a red can we can get around here.I live in WV. we have them in our local dollar general store
  • CharlieBeansmomTracey
    CharlieBeansmomTracey Posts: 7,682 Member
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    I dont know. I know they have places to ship to china,brail,mexico and puerto rico. but look online and you may be able to find them elsewhere. maybe amazon?