100 push-ups question

GuitarJohn
GuitarJohn Posts: 64 Member
edited September 19 in Fitness and Exercise
Maybe someone who is better at math than I am can figure this out. I weigh 160 lbs. In the "push-up" position with my hands on the scale, the scale shows 110 lbs.

I can easily do 50+ push-ups - not up to 100 just yet.

Maybe it's not an apples to apples comparison, but bench-pressing two 35 lb dumb-bells (total 70 lbs), I can only do about 35-40 reps and it is clearly - to me - more "weight" than I am pushing when I do push-ups.

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  • GuitarJohn
    GuitarJohn Posts: 64 Member
    Maybe someone who is better at math than I am can figure this out. I weigh 160 lbs. In the "push-up" position with my hands on the scale, the scale shows 110 lbs.

    I can easily do 50+ push-ups - not up to 100 just yet.

    Maybe it's not an apples to apples comparison, but bench-pressing two 35 lb dumb-bells (total 70 lbs), I can only do about 35-40 reps and it is clearly - to me - more "weight" than I am pushing when I do push-ups.
  • nickybr38
    nickybr38 Posts: 674 Member
    I am the exact opposite. I can do more bench presses then push ups. Ha-ha.

    It could have something to do with the how the weight is being distributed and gravity is probably playing a bigger factor then one might imagine.
  • Katgod318
    Katgod318 Posts: 70 Member
    You have to look at the placement and proportions. In other words in the push up position all the weight is between your shoulders and easier to balance. The weight on a bar is set out on far ends past the width of your shoulders making it more difficult because you are attempting to balance and push it out.

    I hope that helps....sorry if makes more snese in my head.
  • Dave198lbs
    Dave198lbs Posts: 8,810 Member
    not sure but hey dude....you are smoking on the # of push ups.....I am at about 30 max..up from about 5 when I started two weeks ago.....do you do any dips? I just started those and cannot do but 2 and wonder how I can build up to do more...
  • drewzaun
    drewzaun Posts: 111
    not sure but hey dude....you are smoking on the # of push ups.....I am at about 30 max..up from about 5 when I started two weeks ago.....do you do any dips? I just started those and cannot do but 2 and wonder how I can build up to do more...

    For one, keep doing them. Nothing helps you get better at something like doing it. For other exercises that help the triceps there are dumbell routines you can do. Try triceps extensions, and things called french presses. Even upright rows will help your triceps some.
  • GuitarJohn
    GuitarJohn Posts: 64 Member
    I do 4 sets of 50 triceps extensions with a single 35 lb dumbell on my days that I do weights. I have tried dips but I have given up on them. I can do about 15-20 but I get a burning pain in my left elbow and then I can't do anything for a week.

    I have a coffee maker called a "French Press" but I don't think that is what you were referring to. :bigsmile:
  • GuitarJohn
    GuitarJohn Posts: 64 Member
    Ok, I found a YouTube video that showed how the French Press is done. I've seen them before, I just didn't know that's what they were called.
  • fjtcjt
    fjtcjt Posts: 199
    I haven't ever thought about it before, but just trying to make an educated guess. When you are doing push-ups you incorporate more core muscles to assist, also probably more shoulder muscles for stabilization which lightens the load on your chest muscles allowing you to do more reps.

    When doing bench with the dumbbells, you taking some of those muscles out of the equation focusing more on the chest. The reason you can do fewer reps.

    Similar if you use a straight bar for doing curls, you can usually do more weight than if you use dumbbells. Again, this is because you are incorporating more muscles when you use the straight bar curling both arms at the same time, you again recruit more core muscles, shoulder muscles to assist in this lift compared to one arm dumbbell curls allowing you to do more weight.

    Hope that makes sense...again just an educated guess.

    Also, when you put your hands on the scale your body weight is distributed between basically 2 points your hands which are close together and your feet. Once you spread your hands out, now the weight is distributed between 3 points, it is possible that some extra weight is getting transfered to your feet which would lighten the load slightly on your arms (I think this is less likely, but maybe you could check this out with your scale as well).
  • Dave198lbs
    Dave198lbs Posts: 8,810 Member
    OH yea..the french press I have seen called skull crushers....
    dips do seem lke a huge strain on the elbow but also a great stress on the tricep..
    thanks
  • drewzaun
    drewzaun Posts: 111
    I find, at least with myself, that if I get joint pain from something like dips it is because my form is wrong. Maybe my arms are crooked, too wide, too narrow, something like that. You can try them on a kitchen counter where the strain may be just enough to feel it, but not enough to injure yourself. If you are interested.

    Yeah, the coffee maker was not what I had in mind, though I hear though are good!:laugh:

    Calisthenics are whole body, or regional exercises and should be done, IMO, for a total body workout. You are right, pushups are a great core builder, and the bench press is not. Using weights is great because they isolate muscles, which is helpful to bulk up like a body builder, or just improve certain muscles while not touching others. A lot of times people tend to have unevenly developed muscle groups, so using certain exercises can remedy this.

    Calisthenics and weight training are not mutually exclusive, you can do both, and if you want the best results that is exactly what you want to do.
  • 35+35=70 but you didn't add in the weight of the bar the one I use is 45lbs
  • GuitarJohn
    GuitarJohn Posts: 64 Member
    There is no bar. I am using dumbells - the fixed weight 35 pounders. My goal is to work my way up to two 50 lb dumbells, for as many sets of 50 reps as I can wring out.
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