Does Anyone Just Follow the MPF Macros and That's It?
whatalazyidiot
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I keep getting caught up in all these "diets", and wondering if anyone is successful JUST doing what MFP gives you as far as calories/fat/protein/carbs, and then choosing whether or not to eat your exercise calories?
Or is pretty much everyone doing all these diets now?
I would love to just hear following MFP is enough for me because everything else seems so complicated. I already struggle with a lot of food restrictions because of food allergies and sensitives, and it's a bit overwhelming.
Or is pretty much everyone doing all these diets now?
I would love to just hear following MFP is enough for me because everything else seems so complicated. I already struggle with a lot of food restrictions because of food allergies and sensitives, and it's a bit overwhelming.
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I follow my calorie allowance as well as the macros as closely as possible - but the %s for those I fuss with based on a few different calculators. I'm not on a diet, unless you consider general healthy eating to be a diet. I try to keep my carbs 90-110gram, but that's just what works for me specifically in terms of curbing hunger and bloat.5
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Weight loss is all about calories, full stop.
Eat what you like in the portions that will keep you within your calories. That's it.
Keep it simple.
I only make sure to get enough protein, fat, and vegetables. The rest just fits where it fits.6 -
I started by just tracking calories. Now I also pay attention to protein and iron. As of today, I'm down 107.4 lbs.10
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I just looks at total cals and ensure to get as much protein as possible. Sometimes i peek at sugar stat.
Have lost 25lbs since April1 -
Okay thanks everyone. I have been sucked into Keto more than once over the last year (nothing wrong with it, it works), and while I understand all the health benefits and have NO ill will towards it, I suffer from binge eating disorder, so those kinds of super restrictive diets never work out for ME in the long run.
But then it's hard to think just regular calories in, calories out works when every person you talk to is doing Keto, Paleo, Whole30, whatever else.
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WhataLazyIdiot,
As a person who has also suffered from disorderly eating and binging - a long time ago - I find keto to be problematic. 1) it is not sustainable so you will gain the weight back once you go off it if you're not careful 2) it doesn't teach you normal eating habits; it is rather extreme to achieve goals.5 -
I can honestly say I haven’t ever paid attention to macros. I’ve only ever counted calories, but I never struggled with satiety as others have. My struggles have been laziness and a lack of calorie to portion size understanding.
FWIW, I’m down almost 35kg. That’s what works for me, YMMV! I probably should make sure to get enough protein but my hair is shiny and healthy! So, so far so good!
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I lost weight just fine following the macros and calories given by MFP but adjusted the macros a bit to suit my needs, likes and lifestyle as I went along and still continued to lose weight just fine. I never plateaued. I never felt that I went without. For me, weight loss success or failure boils down how accurately you are logging your calories in and calories out.2
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whatalazyidiot wrote: »Okay thanks everyone. I have been sucked into Keto more than once over the last year (nothing wrong with it, it works), and while I understand all the health benefits and have NO ill will towards it, I suffer from binge eating disorder, so those kinds of super restrictive diets never work out for ME in the long run.
But then it's hard to think just regular calories in, calories out works when every person you talk to is doing Keto, Paleo, Whole30, whatever else.
I think that's a mis-impression.
Nearly everyone who wants to brag about their really cool, trendy diet is doing keto, paleo, whole30, or some other much-publicized named way of eating. It's an open question whether they'll succeed in losing a substantial amount of weight, or not.
There are always some people with their head down just doing some boring thing like eating less (counting calories or not) and not much talking about it. Talking about it just becomes a lightning rod for people who need to tell you about why you should be doing the cool, trendy diet they are. While losing weight, I pretty much kept quiet about it, except when talking to people who were doing the same thing (eating less, maybe counting calories).
P.S. I'm not saying everyone doing keto, paleo, whole30, etc., is Braggy McBraggerson or full of empty talk. For some people, those are helpful, sustainable ways of eating, and that's just swell. They may well be keeping quiet about what they're doing, too. I'm saying that the trendy trend-chasers are going to be doing whatever's most talked about right now, and they're going to be talking about it.
If you read the Success Stories forum posts here, you'll find a lot of successful people who did a boring eat less, move more kind of approach . . . usually calorie-counting, since this is a calorie-counting site.
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I have kept the defaults, but only aim for the 20% protein one. (I never have an issue getting a minimum of 30% fat.)
Looking back over the past number of weeks (which have been all over the place in terms of calories, for a number of reasons), it looks like I'm generally having an easier time with a calorie deficit when I'm at 35 - 45% carbs, 35 - 40% fat and 20% protein.0 -
I just ate my calorie allotment and all my exercise calories initially.
Once I had a few months of data I upped my protein goal, and worked out my average calorie burn for exercise- this was so close to the MFP estimates it is still my fall back if I have to track a new routine. (Zumba was the only one that was waaaay off)
Cheers, h.
PS: not only did I lose the weight, I have kept it off for ~9 years.7 -
I had my initial success in losing just counting calories, not worrying about macros at all for several months, until I reached the point of reducing my deficit to slow the rate of loss and then I started looking at protein and fat for minimums, quickly determined that the days I even came in marginally below my fat minimum were extremely rare, so I didn't need to worry about it. These days I track calories, protein, and fiber. But it's only the calories that matter to my weight loss. The protein and fiber I track for my health and fitness, not for weight loss.3
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whatalazyidiot wrote: »But then it's hard to think just regular calories in, calories out works when every person you talk to is doing Keto, Paleo, Whole30, whatever else.
The people I know irl that follow fads never seem to follow them for long. They sound ridiculous when they tell me how great their latest fad diet is because typically they have been on it for less than 3 weeks. Usually after about 6 weeks I hear nothing more and then a year or so later the cycle starts with the next best diet they have ever been on for 3 weeks or less. The funny thing is they say the same basic things each time. They are losing weight fast (water weight) and they have never felt better.
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I adjusted my macros according to the advice in this thread rather than using MFP's defaults, and aimed to hit my calories and protein goal every day while eating what I wanted to eat (within the context of a reasonably balanced/nutritious diet). That's it. Worked great for me and continues to work great for me in maintenance now.
A calorie deficit is what matters for weight (fat) loss. All the "diets" are just different ways to 'trick' you into achieving/maintaining a calorie deficit.1 -
I adjusted my macros according to the advice in this thread rather than using MFP's defaults, and aimed to hit my calories and protein goal every day while eating what I wanted to eat (within the context of a reasonably balanced/nutritious diet). That's it. Worked great for me and continues to work great for me in maintenance now.
A calorie deficit is what matters for weight (fat) loss. All the "diets" are just different ways to 'trick' you into achieving/maintaining a calorie deficit.
This is me too (using those guidelines to set up macros). I look at protein and fat as minimums, and fit in a beer or ice cream or chocolate as I choose.4 -
Ok thanks. MFP has me at 1,230 calories which seems low for someone who is 239 pounds, but then my TDEE is around 1,700-ish (last time I checked), which seems a bit high. Maybe I should start around 1,500 and just see how it goes. Definitely still simpler than all of these complicated diets and their restrictions. It got to be SUPER stressful where that was literally all I was thinking about all day, every day.
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Your TDEE sounds about right, assuming you aren't doing much exercise. MFP doesn't work off your TDEE (also know as your TEE on some sites) though. It works out what your daily energy use is to maintain your current weight without purposeful exercise (also called Non Exercise Activity Theromgenisis or NEAT) and then deducts 500 calories per day for every pound per week that you selected you wanted to lose when you set up your MFP account. Any purposeful exercise calories can be estimated and you then eat some or all of them back which still leaves you in your selected deficit.
MFP will not give you a daily calorie goal of less than 1200 pounds, whatever weight loss you choose for health/nutrition reasons.
So if you want to eat a bit more you need to either move more or add in exercise (so you can eat your exercise calories back) or you could choose a less aggressive weight loss per week goal.
This might help:
http://fit101.org/the-step-by-step-guide-to-losing-weight-with-myfitnesspal/
This has lots of useful info:
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10300319/most-helpful-posts-general-health-fitness-and-diet-must-reads#latest1 -
whatalazyidiot wrote: »Ok thanks. MFP has me at 1,230 calories which seems low for someone who is 239 pounds, but then my TDEE is around 1,700-ish (last time I checked), which seems a bit high. Maybe I should start around 1,500 and just see how it goes. Definitely still simpler than all of these complicated diets and their restrictions. It got to be SUPER stressful where that was literally all I was thinking about all day, every day.
The link in AnvilHead's post will talk you through MFP set up versus TDEE. I went with TDEE because my activity level is relatively consistent and I like a set daily target. 1700 for 236lbs seems low to me. When I was 200 and moderately active (I'm also short and middle aged), mine was about 2500. Unless you're laying around doing nothing, I suspect that the 1200 is too low. Maybe give yourself a range for now and reevaluate in several weeks. 1500-1700 that way you can have more on hungry days and less when you don't feel hungry. How tall are you?3 -
Ok thanks! I’m 5’6
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whatalazyidiot wrote: »Ok thanks! I’m 5’6
I'm going to stick with my thoughts above. Given the history of binge eating, being worsened by restrictive diets, you don't want to go too low. I know when I've tried 1200 cals (and it took me a long time to learn, so repeatedly tried this), I would get stupid hungry and really over eat. If you can manage a smaller deficit over a longer period of time, you will do better than being really restrictive and then regularly undoing it with binges.
As an aside note, please do consider a different username for yourself. You can change it under settings, and if it won't let you, PM one of the mods and they can change it. It tugs at me a little to read it, because it says you are being unnecessarily hard on yourself. One thing you are going to need through this process (other than patience) is forgiveness, kindness, and understanding. Okay, that's four things, but you really do need to recognize that what you are going through right now is a human experience. If you wouldn't say it to someone else, don't say it to yourself. :flowerforyou:13 -
I reduced carbs a bit and upped fat a bit during weightloss, but now in maintenance, I'm pretty close to the default.
I had lost weight before, but never been able to keep it off. So yes, of course cutting out the fads made it possible to stick to an appropriate amount of calories.
You hear about what people talk about, and people love to talk about exciting things, and "I'm just eating a little less and moving a little more" isn't what normal people would call exciting. Accepting mundanity and making everyday life enjoyable, means success.3 -
My username is purely for comedic value But I really do appreciate your kind words and all the help.1
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whatalazyidiot wrote: »My username is purely for comedic value But I really do appreciate your kind words and all the help.
Good to know. All the best.1 -
kommodevaran wrote: »You hear about what people talk about, and people love to talk about exciting things, and "I'm just eating a little less and moving a little more" isn't what normal people would call exciting. Accepting mundanity and making everyday life enjoyable, means success.
THIS! Almost six years ago I lost 35lbs and 4 dress sizes (a lot for my 4'10.5" frame) and people often asked what I did to achieve this. The confusion, disinterest and let-down was evident all over their face when I respond with "I worked out like a beast 5 days a week, and counted my calories while eating very clean".
They wanted a secret or a magic trick.
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I lost almost forty pounds only paying attention to calories. I tried Whole30 in the beginning as a 'kick-start' and while the weight does shed off on low carb I also wanted to murder everybody and couldn't exercise. Lately I've been paying attention to macros (I just use the MFP defaults and it's fine) to increase satiety because I've been cutting calories more aggressively so I can relax more during a few trips I have coming up. But I don't follow them to the letter, just as a general guide, ie, if I have 200 calories left and haven't hit my carb goal, I'll use that 200 calories for something carb-heavy.1
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I eat at or slightly under my allowed calories. That's it. I *try* to get a certain amount of protein each day so I don't feel crappy. Some days I fail at that.
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Re exercise calories, I'm your height and have been your weight and couldn't survive without exercise calories.
MFP uses the NEAT method (Non-Exercise Activity Thermogenesis), and as such this system is designed for exercise calories to be eaten back. However, many consider the burns given by MFP to be inflated and only eat a percentage, such as 50%, back. Others, however, are able to lose weight while eating 100% of their exercise calories.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/818082/exercise-calories-again-wtf/p1
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I'm just following the calorie level assigned by MFP (1200) and keeping an eye on my Macros (particularly carbs since my husband is diabetic and we eat the same things). I haven't felt the need to make adjustments because I feel great. I want a plan I can live with forever and these other diets just don't seem sustainable to me indefinitely. I don't want to use a diet to lose a lot of weight and then gain it all back when I stop using the diet. I've lost 19 lbs so far (I adopted an low calorie eating plan in early July, before I joined MFP in late July).2
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I follow my food preferences and a minimum protein budget. This happens to align almost exactly with MFP macros with slightly higher carbs and slightly lower fat. I have lost more than 100 lbs. I also eat back my exercise calories.2
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