Hospital Weight Management program
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cmriverside wrote: »I think anyone who has yo-yo'd 100 pounds several times in five years has something that isn't getting resolved.
What that something is? Could be a lot of things. I lost my weight and have kept it off. I also quit smoking and drinking alcohol without any support groups or therapy but I know that isn't the way everyone succeeds.
This site was perfect for my weight loss. I do much better without advice from people or so-called professionals in my life to coach me, but I am amenable to reading forum posts and learning from them. That's what I did with my weight loss and with quitting alcohol. Read read read. Everything I could find. Books, websites, forums.
People talking at me overwhelms me, but if I can read about it I'm golden.
I say keep trying everything until something sticks. @earlnabby, maybe it's the fish oil.
LOL. Maybe that’s it!!!1 -
That sounds a lot like the Duke University Program. Like any program, you have to be motivated and be committed to making a life style change. If you do the program and return to your old eating habits, you'll gain the weight back.0
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I don't think anyone can be helpful unless they have undergone the exact program (same location and staff) you are considering. Any medical program is only going to be as good as the people running it. The quality of healthcare professionals can vary greatly.
It really isn't for me to say what is good or bad on someone else's journey if it isn't unhealthy and doesn't appear to be a total sham.3 -
Haven’t gone through one but I’ve worked at facilities that had programs like this. Ime quality and results varied wildly based on how engaging and knowledgeable the facilitators are. If this is something your pcp is recommending and you trust them and the hospital has a good reputation it might be a good idea if it sounds appealing to you.2
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I have a friend that did lose over 100 lbs on a hospital plan around 14 years ago. She was an employee of that hospital and after losing the weight was refunded her cost of the program. I want to say there were 2-3 payments of $700 each. Labs and other medical tests were included in the program. The first three weeks was a liquid only diet including nutritional shakes provided by the hospital. She said the first few days were hard but after three weeks of shakes she became desensitized to foods she normally had binge issues with. After the first three weeks the plan was extremely similar to Weight Watchers. She kept the weight off for several years but eventually gained it back. We’ve chatted about it a few times over the years and she still feels it was a positive experience for her.8
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kommodevaran wrote: »
What to eat, is up to you. (Being told what to eat, is what makes people resentful, dependent, and rebel.) To lose weight, you have to eat less. To gain physical fitness, you need to use your body (more). You don't need a program for those things, you need to do those things.MelanieCN77 wrote: »kommodevaran wrote: »I believe the question, maybe even the whole idea, is wrong. You can regain after weightloss surgery. You can buy junk food in the weightloss ward. People who really want to lose weight, make it happen, and they can only make it happen themselves.
It's quite literally the opposite of learning sustainability and self responsibility.
How is a program that teaches you what to eat and how to gain physical fitness the opposite of self responsibility? Again, this is NOT weightloss surgery or a set meal plan/liquid diet.
True, we choose what we eat. And, the emotional and behavioral factors in our lives which influence our diet and exercise sometimes take the help and support of others to untangle so we can truly change our behaviors to healthy and sustainable ones.
OP, the program sounds like it’s a very supportive one with lots of expertise to help you build the habits you need to make your weight loss sustainable.7 -
I participated in a similar program- in this program, they introduced me to MFP! While the visits with the dietitian weren't that helpful- as I already had a good knowledge of nutrition- the sessions with the Dr were extremely helpful. I have also found MFP extremely helpful.
I was at the stage where I didn't really believe that it was possible for me to lose weight.
I lost 50 pounds over a year and maintained for a year and a half. I gained 15 pounds- over a very stressful time, but I am back on track now and losing that.
The key is that what works for some people doesn't work for others and I think it's important to find what works for you.
Good luck!13 -
I would go further.I don't think anyone can be helpful unless they have undergone the exact program (same location and staff) you are considering. Any medical program is only going to be as good as the people running it. The quality of healthcare professionals can vary greatly.
It really isn't for me to say what is good or bad on someone else's journey if it isn't unhealthy and doesn't appear to be a total sham.
I don't think anyone can say what's going to be helpful for any idividual unless they are that individual.
The usefuless of the same exact program with the same exact professionals can be extremely variable, depending on the patient.
What's special about this kind of treatment, is that it's not about taking pills or being cut open and stitched up - it's the patient who does the job. (Or not.)6 -
kommodevaran wrote: »
I would go further.I don't think anyone can be helpful unless they have undergone the exact program (same location and staff) you are considering. Any medical program is only going to be as good as the people running it. The quality of healthcare professionals can vary greatly.
It really isn't for me to say what is good or bad on someone else's journey if it isn't unhealthy and doesn't appear to be a total sham.
I don't think anyone can say what's going to be helpful for any idividual unless they are that individual.
The usefuless of the same exact program with the same exact professionals can be extremely variable, depending on the patient.
What's special about this kind of treatment, is that it's not about taking pills or being cut open and stitched up - it's the patient who does the job. (Or not.)
I agree with this which is why I never asked if anyone thought I should do it. My starting this thread was to get information about the program from the perspective of a patient who has done something similar since the only information I have is from the perspective of the provider. One can only make an informed decision after gathering as much information as possible.
My question was simple: Did you do one? How much did it cost? Did you find it was helpful? Too bad it got derailed16 -
kommodevaran wrote: »I would go further.
I don't think anyone can say what's going to be helpful for any idividual unless they are that individual.
The usefuless of the same exact program with the same exact professionals can be extremely variable, depending on the patient.
What's special about this kind of treatment, is that it's not about taking pills or being cut open and stitched up - it's the patient who does the job. (Or not.)
Some will, some won't. That is what every weight loss avenue has in common including anything that has been successful for anyone here or anywhere.
Being ready to lose the weight and maintain can sustain a person through methodology failures until they find their path. Not being ready will lead to failure regardless.
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No personal insights, OP, but just wanted to say my heart goes out to you for keeping at it. It's hard for me to imagine losing 100 pounds *several times*. You obviously have the knowledge, perseverance and mental toughness to do this. I wish you nothing but the very best to discover that missing piece that has led to regain.
Can you ask for references for this specific program? Despite HIPPA, there may be people willing to talk about their experience. If they're a reference, they probably have positive things to say, but maybe you can get a sense of whether what worked for them would be of value to you or not.
Either way, best to you and press on!7 -
No personal insights, OP, but just wanted to say my heart goes out to you for keeping at it. It's hard for me to imagine losing 100 pounds *several times*. You obviously have the knowledge, perseverance and mental toughness to do this. I wish you nothing but the very best to discover that missing piece that has led to regain.
Can you ask for references for this specific program? Despite HIPPA, there may be people willing to talk about their experience. If they're a reference, they probably have positive things to say, but maybe you can get a sense of whether what worked for them would be of value to you or not.
Either way, best to you and press on!
I asked and yes, because of HIPAA they couldn't give me any names.0 -
Have any of you done a hospital weight management program? First of all, I am NOT talking about an ultra low calorie Medifast type program. I am talking about a whole person comprehensive program that combines medical doctors, dieticians, therapists, group therapy, and fitness specialists in order to achieve sustainable loss.
If you have:
Did you find it was helpful?
Did you lose throughout the program?
Was it expensive?
Have you kept the weight off?
in like 2015 ish I lost 100lbs with one of these program. They assess which stream you best fit in (natural guided weight loss, bariatric surgery, or health shake type program - I was in the normal food guided by dietician/doctor stream).
It was wonderful. The staff were awesome, helpful, good tips and support. I didn't attend the group sessions due to time constraints. I lost around 100lbs. They had walking groups but I walked my dog (then picked up running again). This is how I learned about MFP and volumetric eating.
But indeed, i put about 35-40lbs back on before I got back here in April. I was in a stressful place and unable to exercise as much and had been letting portions slip (and rewards become too regular).
I've lost 27ls so far - this is my first time loosing weight without a dietitian and I was pretty impressed that I managed to do it (not done but almost there). But I use many of the tools I learned in my past two experienced of weight loss guided by dietitian (the first time was under an endocrinologist+dietician with weight loss meds)
Also, I STOPPED the gain at 40lbs which is better than I did the last time (putting on another 100 before going to the above program). and had all the tools to get myself into gear as well as the knowledge that I COULD do it. Next time I just need to stop at 5lbs.
It was covered so no cost.
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I'm a little perplexed by a few of the responses here too. I didn't hear anything in your description about a particular meal plan (which typically can be problematic), but rather some general (albeit professional) education & guidance in nutrition, which doesn't sound like a terrible thing. Coupled with the support of therapists, it sounds rather attractive. I think it's possible that, like @cheryldumais said, you could find that they don't actually tell you anything you don't already know or couldn't learn on your own when it comes to diet & nutrition, but as has been said, it will really come down to the quality of the program.
Maintenance is going to be a challenge for everyone, regardless of how they get there.
Sorry- I know you were asking for experiences, not opinions.6 -
I don't think it's a good idea to press on in this case, but to take a step back. Knowing how to lose weight is not the same as knowing how to maintain healthy weight. Perserverance is a hindrance if it's in the form of an attitude that prevents somebody from opening up for new strategies.No personal insights, OP, but just wanted to say my heart goes out to you for keeping at it. It's hard for me to imagine losing 100 pounds *several times*. You obviously have the knowledge, perseverance and mental toughness to do this. I wish you nothing but the very best to discover that missing piece that has led to regain.
Can you ask for references for this specific program? Despite HIPPA, there may be people willing to talk about their experience. If they're a reference, they probably have positive things to say, but maybe you can get a sense of whether what worked for them would be of value to you or not.
Either way, best to you and press on!6 -
kommodevaran wrote: »
I don't think it's a good idea to press on in this case, but to take a step back. Knowing how to lose weight is not the same as knowing how to maintain healthy weight. Perserverance is a hindrance if it's in the form of an attitude that prevents somebody from opening up for new strategies.No personal insights, OP, but just wanted to say my heart goes out to you for keeping at it. It's hard for me to imagine losing 100 pounds *several times*. You obviously have the knowledge, perseverance and mental toughness to do this. I wish you nothing but the very best to discover that missing piece that has led to regain.
Can you ask for references for this specific program? Despite HIPPA, there may be people willing to talk about their experience. If they're a reference, they probably have positive things to say, but maybe you can get a sense of whether what worked for them would be of value to you or not.
Either way, best to you and press on!
What on earth are you talking about, and how does this relate to a question about a comprehensive guided weight loss program (especially since you are so against learning new strategies)?11 -
Why would "pressing on," or continuing an effort, to achieve good health not be a good idea in this case, or in any case? To my mind, perseverance means trying different approaches until finding the one that works. I generally respect your comments, kommodevaran. We seem to have different understanding of what certain words mean in this discussion.
OP is considering professional help across multiple disciplines to accomplish something -- maintaining a loss-- that has eluded him/her so far. That seems to suggest trying new approaches, finding what failed before. As I stated, I have no insight on how helpful the professional insights would be, but I do admire the OP's continuing effort. You are worth the effort, OP!11 -
kommodevaran wrote: »
I don't think it's a good idea to press on in this case, but to take a step back. Knowing how to lose weight is not the same as knowing how to maintain healthy weight. Perserverance is a hindrance if it's in the form of an attitude that prevents somebody from opening up for new strategies.No personal insights, OP, but just wanted to say my heart goes out to you for keeping at it. It's hard for me to imagine losing 100 pounds *several times*. You obviously have the knowledge, perseverance and mental toughness to do this. I wish you nothing but the very best to discover that missing piece that has led to regain.
Can you ask for references for this specific program? Despite HIPPA, there may be people willing to talk about their experience. If they're a reference, they probably have positive things to say, but maybe you can get a sense of whether what worked for them would be of value to you or not.
Either way, best to you and press on!
What makes you think that the program wouldn't also incorporate strategies for maintenance? It sounds like a comprehensive program that will teach new (maybe new) strategies for diet as well as coping. At worst, it would be full of the bunk woo that we hear about here all the time. In which case, OP has been around long enough to know that it's bunk. Or maybe it will just reinforce things she already knows.kommodevaran wrote: »
I don't think it's a good idea to press on in this case, but to take a step back. Knowing how to lose weight is not the same as knowing how to maintain healthy weight. Perserverance is a hindrance if it's in the form of an attitude that prevents somebody from opening up for new strategies.No personal insights, OP, but just wanted to say my heart goes out to you for keeping at it. It's hard for me to imagine losing 100 pounds *several times*. You obviously have the knowledge, perseverance and mental toughness to do this. I wish you nothing but the very best to discover that missing piece that has led to regain.
Can you ask for references for this specific program? Despite HIPPA, there may be people willing to talk about their experience. If they're a reference, they probably have positive things to say, but maybe you can get a sense of whether what worked for them would be of value to you or not.
Either way, best to you and press on!
What on earth are you talking about, and how does this relate to a question about a comprehensive guided weight loss program (especially since you are so against learning new strategies)?
I personally don't have any experience with something like this, but I don't have any sense of "run away" that I get with a lot of the crap that's out there right now. Have you talked to the provider about cost and your insurance about coverage?5 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »kommodevaran wrote: »
I don't think it's a good idea to press on in this case, but to take a step back. Knowing how to lose weight is not the same as knowing how to maintain healthy weight. Perserverance is a hindrance if it's in the form of an attitude that prevents somebody from opening up for new strategies.No personal insights, OP, but just wanted to say my heart goes out to you for keeping at it. It's hard for me to imagine losing 100 pounds *several times*. You obviously have the knowledge, perseverance and mental toughness to do this. I wish you nothing but the very best to discover that missing piece that has led to regain.
Can you ask for references for this specific program? Despite HIPPA, there may be people willing to talk about their experience. If they're a reference, they probably have positive things to say, but maybe you can get a sense of whether what worked for them would be of value to you or not.
Either way, best to you and press on!
What makes you think that the program wouldn't also incorporate strategies for maintenance? It sounds like a comprehensive program that will teach new (maybe new) strategies for diet as well as coping. At worst, it would be full of the bunk woo that we hear about here all the time. In which case, OP has been around long enough to know that it's bunk. Or maybe it will just reinforce things she already knows.kommodevaran wrote: »
I don't think it's a good idea to press on in this case, but to take a step back. Knowing how to lose weight is not the same as knowing how to maintain healthy weight. Perserverance is a hindrance if it's in the form of an attitude that prevents somebody from opening up for new strategies.No personal insights, OP, but just wanted to say my heart goes out to you for keeping at it. It's hard for me to imagine losing 100 pounds *several times*. You obviously have the knowledge, perseverance and mental toughness to do this. I wish you nothing but the very best to discover that missing piece that has led to regain.
Can you ask for references for this specific program? Despite HIPPA, there may be people willing to talk about their experience. If they're a reference, they probably have positive things to say, but maybe you can get a sense of whether what worked for them would be of value to you or not.
Either way, best to you and press on!
What on earth are you talking about, and how does this relate to a question about a comprehensive guided weight loss program (especially since you are so against learning new strategies)?
I personally don't have any experience with something like this, but I don't have any sense of "run away" that I get with a lot of the crap that's out there right now. Have you talked to the provider about cost and your insurance about coverage?
I have and it is not covered by insurance. One good thing is that it includes a free membership to the same fitness center I used to go to for my water aerobics and lap swimming along with sessions with a personal trainer/physical therapist (depending on needs and ability). I love the pools there and the water exercise instructors
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nutmegoreo wrote: »kommodevaran wrote: »
I don't think it's a good idea to press on in this case, but to take a step back. Knowing how to lose weight is not the same as knowing how to maintain healthy weight. Perserverance is a hindrance if it's in the form of an attitude that prevents somebody from opening up for new strategies.No personal insights, OP, but just wanted to say my heart goes out to you for keeping at it. It's hard for me to imagine losing 100 pounds *several times*. You obviously have the knowledge, perseverance and mental toughness to do this. I wish you nothing but the very best to discover that missing piece that has led to regain.
Can you ask for references for this specific program? Despite HIPPA, there may be people willing to talk about their experience. If they're a reference, they probably have positive things to say, but maybe you can get a sense of whether what worked for them would be of value to you or not.
Either way, best to you and press on!
What makes you think that the program wouldn't also incorporate strategies for maintenance? It sounds like a comprehensive program that will teach new (maybe new) strategies for diet as well as coping. At worst, it would be full of the bunk woo that we hear about here all the time. In which case, OP has been around long enough to know that it's bunk. Or maybe it will just reinforce things she already knows.kommodevaran wrote: »
I don't think it's a good idea to press on in this case, but to take a step back. Knowing how to lose weight is not the same as knowing how to maintain healthy weight. Perserverance is a hindrance if it's in the form of an attitude that prevents somebody from opening up for new strategies.No personal insights, OP, but just wanted to say my heart goes out to you for keeping at it. It's hard for me to imagine losing 100 pounds *several times*. You obviously have the knowledge, perseverance and mental toughness to do this. I wish you nothing but the very best to discover that missing piece that has led to regain.
Can you ask for references for this specific program? Despite HIPPA, there may be people willing to talk about their experience. If they're a reference, they probably have positive things to say, but maybe you can get a sense of whether what worked for them would be of value to you or not.
Either way, best to you and press on!
What on earth are you talking about, and how does this relate to a question about a comprehensive guided weight loss program (especially since you are so against learning new strategies)?
I personally don't have any experience with something like this, but I don't have any sense of "run away" that I get with a lot of the crap that's out there right now. Have you talked to the provider about cost and your insurance about coverage?
I have and it is not covered by insurance. One good thing is that it includes a free membership to the same fitness center I used to go to for my water aerobics and lap swimming along with sessions with a personal trainer/physical therapist (depending on needs and ability). I love the pools there and the water exercise instructors
I remember your love of the water. Is there a similar program nearby, so you can compare prices and programs? I'm guessing that a program like that isn't cheap, but if it makes the difference for you, it's worth considering.3
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