Burning calories lifting weights
manolocort
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Hey guys, I am lifting weights several times a day and my goal is to get a lean cut, but I can’t figure out how many calories I am burning. Any suggestions in how to keep track with this? It will really help me!
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Not many. That's not why you're lifting. You're lifting to preserve or build muscle.
If you enter it into MFP under cardio it will give you a guess.8 -
To piggyback on NorthCascades, calories in and calories out are estimates. Adding a couple of hundred of potentially burned calories to one side of the equation does not mean much. If you're not trending in the direction you want, you'll need to tweak the types and amount of food you're eating. I wouldn't waste time trying to make an equation look the way you want. Just eat well.
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aside from the calorie burning why are you lifting several times a day? once a day for 30-60 min is sufficient enough if lifiting heavy(proper form is needed of course).16
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »aside from the calorie burning why are you lifting several times a day? once a day for 30-60 min is sufficient enough if lifiting heavy(proper form is needed of course).
This ^^. And I wouldn't bother trying to track calories burned during weight lifting. It's inconsequential, and it's not the reason one lift weights.10 -
candicew70 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »aside from the calorie burning why are you lifting several times a day? once a day for 30-60 min is sufficient enough if lifiting heavy(proper form is needed of course).
This ^^. And I wouldn't bother trying to track calories burned during weight lifting. It's inconsequential, and it's not the reason one lift weights.
I don't lift for calories but I track them and eat them because having the extra food helps with my recovery and my lifts. I feel a distinct difference when I don't add them in. I'm petite and a couple hundred calories make a big difference.16 -
Its listed under cardio exercises(strength training), tell MFP how many minutes, and it will add the calories for you based on your weight.3
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candicew70 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »aside from the calorie burning why are you lifting several times a day? once a day for 30-60 min is sufficient enough if lifiting heavy(proper form is needed of course).
This ^^. And I wouldn't bother trying to track calories burned during weight lifting. It's inconsequential, and it's not the reason one lift weights.
I don't lift for calories but I track them and eat them because having the extra food helps with my recovery and my lifts. I feel a distinct difference when I don't add them in. I'm petite and a couple hundred calories make a big difference.
I agree. It make a difference for me as well.7 -
Blackwatch2000 wrote: »candicew70 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »aside from the calorie burning why are you lifting several times a day? once a day for 30-60 min is sufficient enough if lifiting heavy(proper form is needed of course).
This ^^. And I wouldn't bother trying to track calories burned during weight lifting. It's inconsequential, and it's not the reason one lift weights.
I don't lift for calories but I track them and eat them because having the extra food helps with my recovery and my lifts. I feel a distinct difference when I don't add them in. I'm petite and a couple hundred calories make a big difference.
I agree. It make a difference for me as well.
And I will third the sentiment. I can't lift and be active without eating my lifting calories. Lethargy, through lack of adequate fuelling, is not pleasant.
Cheers, h.8 -
Calculate your TDEE (I like the calculator on http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/ the rest of the website is crap but the calculator is pretty good) and work with that. Make custom workout and count only 1 calorie for all your workouts (though its not really needed, it just helps you with the logging your exercise part).
This way you're working with your overall fitness level and the calories burned typically. I have found working with TDEE much better than using the calories mentioned in MFP database since I have found the calories can be upto 30% off from the real burn. If you prefer accurate calories burned, there are devices for measuring your calories burned.
Hope this helps.
Stay crunchy.1 -
candicew70 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »aside from the calorie burning why are you lifting several times a day? once a day for 30-60 min is sufficient enough if lifiting heavy(proper form is needed of course).
This ^^. And I wouldn't bother trying to track calories burned during weight lifting. It's inconsequential, and it's not the reason one lift weights.
So do you also not track the calories in a banana because the calories are inconsequential?19 -
middlehaitch wrote: »Blackwatch2000 wrote: »candicew70 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »aside from the calorie burning why are you lifting several times a day? once a day for 30-60 min is sufficient enough if lifiting heavy(proper form is needed of course).
This ^^. And I wouldn't bother trying to track calories burned during weight lifting. It's inconsequential, and it's not the reason one lift weights.
I don't lift for calories but I track them and eat them because having the extra food helps with my recovery and my lifts. I feel a distinct difference when I don't add them in. I'm petite and a couple hundred calories make a big difference.
I agree. It make a difference for me as well.
And I will third the sentiment. I can't lift and be active without eating my lifting calories. Lethargy, through lack of adequate fuelling, is not pleasant.
Cheers, h.
Agreed--you want to eat more when you lift, especially protein. I guess I meant that the actual calories burned from lifting is going to be low (compared to cardio). And I think on MFP you have to enter in individual exercises, which is the answer to the OP's question. I think you could also just add in a "generic" calories burned (which, depending on how much you weigh, could be 100 calories for a half hour). Tracking calories burned from weight training though seems like (imo) treating it like its cardio, and it's not. If you lift weights for an hour, you need a different kind of recovery meal than if you ran for an hour.2 -
@candicew70, the 'weights' single entry section is for record keeping.
The 'strength training' under 'cardio' gives a calorie burn estimate.
I find eating back 100% of them accurate for me, but some cut the percentage by a constant number according to results and personal data.
Both my cardio and lifting need equal fuelling dependant on the calories burnt. Neither, because I am not an athlete, need a specific recovery meal.
Cheers, h.7 -
This is an interesting question.
Also, what about "afterburn" caloric burn from weight training. Recovery burn from weights can last up to a full day after lifting.
Are there any tools or calculators to accurately account for that?9 -
clintonfry wrote: »This is an interesting question.
Also, what about "afterburn" caloric burn from weight training. Recovery burn from weights can last up to a full day after lifting.
Are there any tools or calculators to accurately account for that?
the after burn is not as long as you think. I know for me its only an hr or two after I lift or workout that my burns are higher but it eventually returns to normal a few hours later.so no its not a full day of afterburn. for example lifting I burn about 5-7 calories a min on average,
I continue burning them for 2-3 hrs after. then its usually the 2-4 I burn just moving around (depending on what Im doing). I tracked this for a month or so just to see if there were any truth to it and for me there isnt.maybe someone else who is more active through the day could keep the burn at a similar level. but once I slow down it slows down.5 -
clintonfry wrote: »This is an interesting question.
Also, what about "afterburn" caloric burn from weight training. Recovery burn from weights can last up to a full day after lifting.
Are there any tools or calculators to accurately account for that?
@clintonfry
It's really not possible to estimate outside a sports science lab and the numbers are most likely going to be tiny.
https://bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/research-review-effects-of-exercise-intensity-and-duration-on-the-excess-post-exercise-oxygen-consumption.html/7 -
I have a setting on my Garmin 920XT for strength training that just tracks time and heart rate -- that will give me an estimate of how much my body has been working during lifting as far as cardio.4
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candicew70 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »aside from the calorie burning why are you lifting several times a day? once a day for 30-60 min is sufficient enough if lifiting heavy(proper form is needed of course).
This ^^. And I wouldn't bother trying to track calories burned during weight lifting. It's inconsequential, and it's not the reason one lift weights.
So do you also not track the calories in a banana because the calories are inconsequential?
I don't eat bananas so no to that one, but I will say that when putting in a recipe in the recipe calculator I won't include things like fish sauce because the calories in a two tbsp of fish sauce (~12 calories) in a recipe that will end up being four servings is inconsequential. If I had a reason to track sodium then I would, but don't and thus.3 -
candicew70 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »aside from the calorie burning why are you lifting several times a day? once a day for 30-60 min is sufficient enough if lifiting heavy(proper form is needed of course).
This ^^. And I wouldn't bother trying to track calories burned during weight lifting. It's inconsequential, and it's not the reason one lift weights.
So do you also not track the calories in a banana because the calories are inconsequential?
I don't eat bananas so no to that one, but I will say that when putting in a recipe in the recipe calculator I won't include things like fish sauce because the calories in a two tbsp of fish sauce (~12 calories) in a recipe that will end up being four servings is inconsequential. If I had a reason to track sodium then I would, but don't and thus.
That's a very different order of magnitude to what may be 200 - 250 calories from a strength workout, maybe 3 or more times a times a week.5 -
clintonfry wrote: »This is an interesting question.
Also, what about "afterburn" caloric burn from weight training. Recovery burn from weights can last up to a full day after lifting.
Are there any tools or calculators to accurately account for that?
Just because an “afterburn” might “last up to a full day” doesn’t mean it is a large amount. While the “afterburn” effect can be sustained, it is often only 2-5 calories per hour. It’s not like you are maintaining the workout intensity for the full 24 hours.
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@clintonfry
It's really not possible to estimate outside a sports science lab and the numbers are most likely going to be tiny.
https://bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/research-review-effects-of-exercise-intensity-and-duration-on-the-excess-post-exercise-oxygen-consumption.html/[/quote]
this is another interesting issue. i have been reading articles like the one that you linked that indicates the recovery burn is less than previously thought. but that doesn't reconcile the anecdotal evidence to the contrary.
ive struggle with weight maintenence on and off for the last decade. and i can observe much better weight loss results with heavy lifting (60%-70% of max) and mild cardio than with just cardio. but I'm pretty heavy. is this possibly a "diminishing returns" sort of deal?
what i mean is: can the afterburn effect be more pronounced in people who are further away from "ideal" body mass? and the closer to ideal that you get, the less the afterburn effect is?2 -
I have used MFP for a long time, but I have stopped "taking credit" for burning calories. I don't enter exercise. I only enter food. Why? Because MFP will subtract your exercise calories from your food calories to calculate net calories. Mathematically this is correct and if it works for you then go for it. MFP balances the books each day, and I don't think the body will react that quickly. So just pick a number of calories per day (for me it is 1800 if I want to lose weight), and go out and exercise and enjoy life, living on just that 1800 per day.17
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I have used MFP for a long time, but I have stopped "taking credit" for burning calories. I don't enter exercise. I only enter food. Why? Because MFP will subtract your exercise calories from your food calories to calculate net calories. Mathematically this is correct and if it works for you then go for it. MFP balances the books each day, and I don't think the body will react that quickly. So just pick a number of calories per day (for me it is 1800 if I want to lose weight), and go out and exercise and enjoy life, living on just that 1800 per day.
You don't think the body will react that quickly? What does that mean? Do you understand that your body HAS to metabolise calories to perform exercise? The TDEE method is valid but your justification is bizarre.8 -
Someone goes out on Saturday and does a 10 mile run. I agree that the body has to supply (say) 1,000 extra calories of energy to support that 10 mile run, but I am not educated as to where the body gets that energy. So then after the run, the runner goes to McDonalds and eats a quarter pounder with cheese and a large fries, which is 1.040 calories. According to MFP the runner has just broke even, and there should be no weight gain. But the food in the stomach still has to get digested, which is a different process than, as you say, "metabolising calories to perform exercise". It will balance out, but not the same day.8
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Maybe I should take this class: https://www.coursera.org/lecture/science-exercise/7-fat-metabolism-during-exercise-LKsKa0
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As accurately measuring calories spent lifting is incredibly difficult (weight, and distance moving the weight are major factors). I did a "best guess estimate" of what I thought I averaged on lifting days as leg day burns a lot more for me than upper body: I lift more weight with my legs than arms and the distance I move the weight is greater as well, therefore I used a guesstimate average. I started with 250 calories. Then I just monitored my expected weight loss. If I was losing faster than expected, I know I was undereatimating. Losing slower = overestimating. Turns out I was fairly accurate. So on lifting days I add 250 exercise calories to my day. As I'm doing more strength maintenance than trying to build (I'm eating at a 250cal/day deficit), I'm not trying to increase the weights.4
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I tried 'eating back exercise calories' using MFP's numbers and found my weight went up. Now I log the exercise (both cardio and strength) so I can note the changes over time, but I ignore them completely from a food perspective and my weight loss is steady but still short of target. I do try and hit my protein goal to limit muscle wastage in the process.2
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manolocort wrote: »Hey guys, I am lifting weights several times a day and my goal is to get a lean cut, but I can’t figure out how many calories I am burning. Any suggestions in how to keep track with this? It will really help me!
Tracking calories from weight lifting is difficult with this app (you can put it in under cardio for a guesstimate), if you are willing to spend some cash you can buy products that will help you track it...... on another note, take advice you get on here with a grain of salt (some is good, a lot is not). Weight lifting is a great way to burn calories/fat (hence, physique athletes and body builders use strength training as their primary way to burn calories/fat). The key to reaching your goals is your diet. If you have your diet on point, a good combo to shape your body (lean and cut) will be implementing a training program with both aerobic exercise and strength training. 💪🏽
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I usually use cardo-->circuit training.
But, it totally depends on how you lift weights. If you take significant breaks between sets (which is not necessarily bad), you will not burn many calories (although you may gain strength). If you are really pushing through the various lifts (such that you maintain an elevated heart rate) then you will burn some extra calories.
Also, my experience from years of lifting weights is that "afterburn" is a small effect.
Cardo activities are the calorie burners. And even medium-effort cardio burns significant calories if done for many hours.0 -
NorthCascades wrote: »Not many. That's not why you're lifting. You're lifting to preserve or build muscle.
If you enter it into MFP under cardio it will give you a guess.
Not many? I burn more calories on an intense leg day or doing volume deadlifts than by doing the same time of HIIT.4 -
joemac1988 wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »Not many. That's not why you're lifting. You're lifting to preserve or build muscle.
If you enter it into MFP under cardio it will give you a guess.
Not many? I burn more calories on an intense leg day or doing volume deadlifts than by doing the same time of HIIT.
And you are also not the average person working out in the gym...1
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