Starting Orlistat today - how many g of fat and any other advice
Replies
-
MelanieCN77 wrote: »kommodevaran wrote: »I think you just have to stop trying to game the system, and just accept that you have to eat a little less, but consistently, if you want to lose weight.
i have in the past lost 3 stone by creating a calorie deficit and making healthy food choices, i gained this back on. last year i went from an office job to working with horses, i average 7 miles a day walking, also involves carrying and lifting heavy stuff, i have for a year lost no weight doing this, struggling to find the correct calorie amount to lose weight, i can lose a lb here and there i can then gain without doing anything different and then it takes week to lose that gain, i weigh daily and i record my moving average, i don’t know if because i have dieted so many times in the past my body has just got use to a deficit or my metabolism has slowed right down. either way it seems wrong to only be able to eat 1,000 calories a day, drink 2l of water and do the exercise to do to lose weight, i cannot maintain this without feeling faint at work, if i increase to the my fitness pal calculations i start to gain again, i got to the point where i was counting macros, grams of fat and carbs and still long term the weights not budging, i went to the doctors to rule out any thyroid or polycistic ovaries, had tests and despite all symptoms of both they’ve come back clear...so he said about these tablets, they can’t make losing weight any more difficult then it already seems for me at the moment so i gave them a try. to be honest i am skeptical and embarrassed at it reaching this point, but thought i’d give it my all as iv nothing to lose,
All that this medication is going to do is potentially get you in a calorie deficit by making you averse to consuming fat, so just consider what you are going to do to yourself to get there. When you counted your calories and figured you were eating 1,000, what was your process of calculating those? Like if you ate a salad and a sandwich, how would you figure the cals?
well so far iv had no side effects but then my fat intake for my breakfast lunch and snack is 15g, this is a normal work day for me iv not cut anything out, and i am at 6.5 miles on my fitbit today so far.
i have gone down the weighing food route, at one point i was weighing salad leaves which was shortly before i went to the doctors!
I weigh everything. Lettuce is a thing
I actually weigh lettuce to help me eat more of it - I was eating less before I started weighing and shooting for minimums on sandwiches, side salads, and entree salads.10 -
I eat lots of salads. From one actual entry in my diary, a head of lettuce at 650 grams, was close to 100 calories. Just FYI if you like large salads and think the lettuce doesn’t count, like I used to.9
-
kshama2001 wrote: »MelanieCN77 wrote: »kommodevaran wrote: »I think you just have to stop trying to game the system, and just accept that you have to eat a little less, but consistently, if you want to lose weight.
i have in the past lost 3 stone by creating a calorie deficit and making healthy food choices, i gained this back on. last year i went from an office job to working with horses, i average 7 miles a day walking, also involves carrying and lifting heavy stuff, i have for a year lost no weight doing this, struggling to find the correct calorie amount to lose weight, i can lose a lb here and there i can then gain without doing anything different and then it takes week to lose that gain, i weigh daily and i record my moving average, i don’t know if because i have dieted so many times in the past my body has just got use to a deficit or my metabolism has slowed right down. either way it seems wrong to only be able to eat 1,000 calories a day, drink 2l of water and do the exercise to do to lose weight, i cannot maintain this without feeling faint at work, if i increase to the my fitness pal calculations i start to gain again, i got to the point where i was counting macros, grams of fat and carbs and still long term the weights not budging, i went to the doctors to rule out any thyroid or polycistic ovaries, had tests and despite all symptoms of both they’ve come back clear...so he said about these tablets, they can’t make losing weight any more difficult then it already seems for me at the moment so i gave them a try. to be honest i am skeptical and embarrassed at it reaching this point, but thought i’d give it my all as iv nothing to lose,
All that this medication is going to do is potentially get you in a calorie deficit by making you averse to consuming fat, so just consider what you are going to do to yourself to get there. When you counted your calories and figured you were eating 1,000, what was your process of calculating those? Like if you ate a salad and a sandwich, how would you figure the cals?
well so far iv had no side effects but then my fat intake for my breakfast lunch and snack is 15g, this is a normal work day for me iv not cut anything out, and i am at 6.5 miles on my fitbit today so far.
i have gone down the weighing food route, at one point i was weighing salad leaves which was shortly before i went to the doctors!
I weigh everything. Lettuce is a thing
I actually weigh lettuce to help me eat more of it - I was eating less before I started weighing and shooting for minimums on sandwiches, side salads, and entree salads.
I also weigh my salads. Bowl on the scale, weigh and tare for each ingredient. I'll even log curry powder and garlic and the like, 10 cals for my spray of oil etc. OP I know you don't want to hear it but most likely your food logging was quite a bit off, simplest answer is usually the most likely.5 -
If it's going in my mouth it's going on the scales
I'm down 158lb weighing my foods and sticking to a deficit15 -
MelanieCN77 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »MelanieCN77 wrote: »kommodevaran wrote: »I think you just have to stop trying to game the system, and just accept that you have to eat a little less, but consistently, if you want to lose weight.
i have in the past lost 3 stone by creating a calorie deficit and making healthy food choices, i gained this back on. last year i went from an office job to working with horses, i average 7 miles a day walking, also involves carrying and lifting heavy stuff, i have for a year lost no weight doing this, struggling to find the correct calorie amount to lose weight, i can lose a lb here and there i can then gain without doing anything different and then it takes week to lose that gain, i weigh daily and i record my moving average, i don’t know if because i have dieted so many times in the past my body has just got use to a deficit or my metabolism has slowed right down. either way it seems wrong to only be able to eat 1,000 calories a day, drink 2l of water and do the exercise to do to lose weight, i cannot maintain this without feeling faint at work, if i increase to the my fitness pal calculations i start to gain again, i got to the point where i was counting macros, grams of fat and carbs and still long term the weights not budging, i went to the doctors to rule out any thyroid or polycistic ovaries, had tests and despite all symptoms of both they’ve come back clear...so he said about these tablets, they can’t make losing weight any more difficult then it already seems for me at the moment so i gave them a try. to be honest i am skeptical and embarrassed at it reaching this point, but thought i’d give it my all as iv nothing to lose,
All that this medication is going to do is potentially get you in a calorie deficit by making you averse to consuming fat, so just consider what you are going to do to yourself to get there. When you counted your calories and figured you were eating 1,000, what was your process of calculating those? Like if you ate a salad and a sandwich, how would you figure the cals?
well so far iv had no side effects but then my fat intake for my breakfast lunch and snack is 15g, this is a normal work day for me iv not cut anything out, and i am at 6.5 miles on my fitbit today so far.
i have gone down the weighing food route, at one point i was weighing salad leaves which was shortly before i went to the doctors!
I weigh everything. Lettuce is a thing
I actually weigh lettuce to help me eat more of it - I was eating less before I started weighing and shooting for minimums on sandwiches, side salads, and entree salads.
I also weigh my salads. Bowl on the scale, weigh and tare for each ingredient. I'll even log curry powder and garlic and the like, 10 cals for my spray of oil etc. OP I know you don't want to hear it but most likely your food logging was quite a bit off, simplest answer is usually the most likely.
i get what you’re saying i really do, but i just don’t think someone who weighs 18 stone and walks 6/7 miles a day shouldn’t have to weigh lettuce to lose weight, my body just is just a mystery to me, day three no side effects of the tablets, another normal stool, positive is my diet doesn’t contain much fat, negative what next!? x14 -
MelanieCN77 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »MelanieCN77 wrote: »kommodevaran wrote: »I think you just have to stop trying to game the system, and just accept that you have to eat a little less, but consistently, if you want to lose weight.
i have in the past lost 3 stone by creating a calorie deficit and making healthy food choices, i gained this back on. last year i went from an office job to working with horses, i average 7 miles a day walking, also involves carrying and lifting heavy stuff, i have for a year lost no weight doing this, struggling to find the correct calorie amount to lose weight, i can lose a lb here and there i can then gain without doing anything different and then it takes week to lose that gain, i weigh daily and i record my moving average, i don’t know if because i have dieted so many times in the past my body has just got use to a deficit or my metabolism has slowed right down. either way it seems wrong to only be able to eat 1,000 calories a day, drink 2l of water and do the exercise to do to lose weight, i cannot maintain this without feeling faint at work, if i increase to the my fitness pal calculations i start to gain again, i got to the point where i was counting macros, grams of fat and carbs and still long term the weights not budging, i went to the doctors to rule out any thyroid or polycistic ovaries, had tests and despite all symptoms of both they’ve come back clear...so he said about these tablets, they can’t make losing weight any more difficult then it already seems for me at the moment so i gave them a try. to be honest i am skeptical and embarrassed at it reaching this point, but thought i’d give it my all as iv nothing to lose,
All that this medication is going to do is potentially get you in a calorie deficit by making you averse to consuming fat, so just consider what you are going to do to yourself to get there. When you counted your calories and figured you were eating 1,000, what was your process of calculating those? Like if you ate a salad and a sandwich, how would you figure the cals?
well so far iv had no side effects but then my fat intake for my breakfast lunch and snack is 15g, this is a normal work day for me iv not cut anything out, and i am at 6.5 miles on my fitbit today so far.
i have gone down the weighing food route, at one point i was weighing salad leaves which was shortly before i went to the doctors!
I weigh everything. Lettuce is a thing
I actually weigh lettuce to help me eat more of it - I was eating less before I started weighing and shooting for minimums on sandwiches, side salads, and entree salads.
I also weigh my salads. Bowl on the scale, weigh and tare for each ingredient. I'll even log curry powder and garlic and the like, 10 cals for my spray of oil etc. OP I know you don't want to hear it but most likely your food logging was quite a bit off, simplest answer is usually the most likely.
i get what you’re saying i really do, but i just don’t think someone who weighs 18 stone and walks 6/7 miles a day shouldn’t have to weigh lettuce to lose weight, my body just is just a mystery to me, day three no side effects of the tablets, another normal stool, positive is my diet doesn’t contain much fat, negative what next!? x
So, what is your main objection to weighing food? Do you think it's wrong or disordered?
Your body does not need to be a mystery to you. What do you think you don't understand?
You have to maintain a calorie deficit to lose weight, aka Calories In < Calories Out (CICO). You can establish that deficit by any means, but calorie counting is an effective way to do it. Weighing food is highly effective tool to make calorie counting work better.
So you don't want to weigh food? Sure, that's fine. Orlistat will certainly help reduce the amount of fat you absorb, but you can accomplish the same benefit by limiting the total fat you eat without risking the side effects. If anything, the drug merely enforces that due to the fear of the side effects. Either way, you still must eat less than you burn to lose weight.
You should request that your doctor refer you to a Registered Dietitian Nutritionist. They can help you with arranging a diet plan that works with the orlistat, and for after you stop taking the drug.
Unfortunately, with many diet drug prescriptions, the doctors do not pair that with a dietary plan or after care. Apparently your doctor is one of them, which is a shame.15 -
MelanieCN77 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »MelanieCN77 wrote: »kommodevaran wrote: »I think you just have to stop trying to game the system, and just accept that you have to eat a little less, but consistently, if you want to lose weight.
i have in the past lost 3 stone by creating a calorie deficit and making healthy food choices, i gained this back on. last year i went from an office job to working with horses, i average 7 miles a day walking, also involves carrying and lifting heavy stuff, i have for a year lost no weight doing this, struggling to find the correct calorie amount to lose weight, i can lose a lb here and there i can then gain without doing anything different and then it takes week to lose that gain, i weigh daily and i record my moving average, i don’t know if because i have dieted so many times in the past my body has just got use to a deficit or my metabolism has slowed right down. either way it seems wrong to only be able to eat 1,000 calories a day, drink 2l of water and do the exercise to do to lose weight, i cannot maintain this without feeling faint at work, if i increase to the my fitness pal calculations i start to gain again, i got to the point where i was counting macros, grams of fat and carbs and still long term the weights not budging, i went to the doctors to rule out any thyroid or polycistic ovaries, had tests and despite all symptoms of both they’ve come back clear...so he said about these tablets, they can’t make losing weight any more difficult then it already seems for me at the moment so i gave them a try. to be honest i am skeptical and embarrassed at it reaching this point, but thought i’d give it my all as iv nothing to lose,
All that this medication is going to do is potentially get you in a calorie deficit by making you averse to consuming fat, so just consider what you are going to do to yourself to get there. When you counted your calories and figured you were eating 1,000, what was your process of calculating those? Like if you ate a salad and a sandwich, how would you figure the cals?
well so far iv had no side effects but then my fat intake for my breakfast lunch and snack is 15g, this is a normal work day for me iv not cut anything out, and i am at 6.5 miles on my fitbit today so far.
i have gone down the weighing food route, at one point i was weighing salad leaves which was shortly before i went to the doctors!
I weigh everything. Lettuce is a thing
I actually weigh lettuce to help me eat more of it - I was eating less before I started weighing and shooting for minimums on sandwiches, side salads, and entree salads.
I also weigh my salads. Bowl on the scale, weigh and tare for each ingredient. I'll even log curry powder and garlic and the like, 10 cals for my spray of oil etc. OP I know you don't want to hear it but most likely your food logging was quite a bit off, simplest answer is usually the most likely.
i get what you’re saying i really do, but i just don’t think someone who weighs 18 stone and walks 6/7 miles a day shouldn’t have to weigh lettuce to lose weight, my body just is just a mystery to me, day three no side effects of the tablets, another normal stool, positive is my diet doesn’t contain much fat, negative what next!? x
Think of the lettuce as a metaphor. Sure, given your activity level, you could just ignore the lettuce calories. However, is it really just the lettuce or an attitude about weighing? Did you also not weigh nuts or whatever else from time to time? Were all the entries you chose from the MFP database accurate? (Unfortunately, there are tons of inaccurate user created entries.) I feel very confident about the food I make myself, but when I go out to eat, I'm just making educated guesses. And if I go out a lot and guess wrongly a lot, I'd not lose weight. Just some things to consider.
Time after time, people who aren't losing weight are miscalculating their calories in or calories out. We see this all the time.16 -
Somehow, taking a medication whose only 'benefit' is from forcing me to eat less fat or risk public humiliation does not sound healthy or sustainable.
What do you think will happen once you stop taking it?12 -
kshama2001 wrote: »
Think of the lettuce as a metaphor. Sure, given your activity level, you could just ignore the lettuce calories. However, is it really just the lettuce or an attitude about weighing? Did you also not weigh nuts or whatever else from time to time?
This. I know it probably just got lost in the flow, but I asked how OP would log a salad and a sandwich and got a nuanced response about weighing lettuce, which I have to assume means there is an attitude to logging, feeling like doing it is excessive and unnecessary and perhaps disordered, and now we're off to the races. OP is already into her fix but I double dare anyone else to weigh, measure and log every single spritz and morsel and bite that passes their lips for a couple of weeks and see what you see.14 -
MelanieCN77 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »MelanieCN77 wrote: »kommodevaran wrote: »I think you just have to stop trying to game the system, and just accept that you have to eat a little less, but consistently, if you want to lose weight.
i have in the past lost 3 stone by creating a calorie deficit and making healthy food choices, i gained this back on. last year i went from an office job to working with horses, i average 7 miles a day walking, also involves carrying and lifting heavy stuff, i have for a year lost no weight doing this, struggling to find the correct calorie amount to lose weight, i can lose a lb here and there i can then gain without doing anything different and then it takes week to lose that gain, i weigh daily and i record my moving average, i don’t know if because i have dieted so many times in the past my body has just got use to a deficit or my metabolism has slowed right down. either way it seems wrong to only be able to eat 1,000 calories a day, drink 2l of water and do the exercise to do to lose weight, i cannot maintain this without feeling faint at work, if i increase to the my fitness pal calculations i start to gain again, i got to the point where i was counting macros, grams of fat and carbs and still long term the weights not budging, i went to the doctors to rule out any thyroid or polycistic ovaries, had tests and despite all symptoms of both they’ve come back clear...so he said about these tablets, they can’t make losing weight any more difficult then it already seems for me at the moment so i gave them a try. to be honest i am skeptical and embarrassed at it reaching this point, but thought i’d give it my all as iv nothing to lose,
All that this medication is going to do is potentially get you in a calorie deficit by making you averse to consuming fat, so just consider what you are going to do to yourself to get there. When you counted your calories and figured you were eating 1,000, what was your process of calculating those? Like if you ate a salad and a sandwich, how would you figure the cals?
well so far iv had no side effects but then my fat intake for my breakfast lunch and snack is 15g, this is a normal work day for me iv not cut anything out, and i am at 6.5 miles on my fitbit today so far.
i have gone down the weighing food route, at one point i was weighing salad leaves which was shortly before i went to the doctors!
I weigh everything. Lettuce is a thing
I actually weigh lettuce to help me eat more of it - I was eating less before I started weighing and shooting for minimums on sandwiches, side salads, and entree salads.
I also weigh my salads. Bowl on the scale, weigh and tare for each ingredient. I'll even log curry powder and garlic and the like, 10 cals for my spray of oil etc. OP I know you don't want to hear it but most likely your food logging was quite a bit off, simplest answer is usually the most likely.
i get what you’re saying i really do, but i just don’t think someone who weighs 18 stone and walks 6/7 miles a day shouldn’t have to weigh lettuce to lose weight, my body just is just a mystery to me, day three no side effects of the tablets, another normal stool, positive is my diet doesn’t contain much fat, negative what next!? x
Unfortunately a calorie deficit is what works for weight loss.
So maybe you should weigh your lettuce... and everything else?14 -
MelanieCN77 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »MelanieCN77 wrote: »kommodevaran wrote: »I think you just have to stop trying to game the system, and just accept that you have to eat a little less, but consistently, if you want to lose weight.
i have in the past lost 3 stone by creating a calorie deficit and making healthy food choices, i gained this back on. last year i went from an office job to working with horses, i average 7 miles a day walking, also involves carrying and lifting heavy stuff, i have for a year lost no weight doing this, struggling to find the correct calorie amount to lose weight, i can lose a lb here and there i can then gain without doing anything different and then it takes week to lose that gain, i weigh daily and i record my moving average, i don’t know if because i have dieted so many times in the past my body has just got use to a deficit or my metabolism has slowed right down. either way it seems wrong to only be able to eat 1,000 calories a day, drink 2l of water and do the exercise to do to lose weight, i cannot maintain this without feeling faint at work, if i increase to the my fitness pal calculations i start to gain again, i got to the point where i was counting macros, grams of fat and carbs and still long term the weights not budging, i went to the doctors to rule out any thyroid or polycistic ovaries, had tests and despite all symptoms of both they’ve come back clear...so he said about these tablets, they can’t make losing weight any more difficult then it already seems for me at the moment so i gave them a try. to be honest i am skeptical and embarrassed at it reaching this point, but thought i’d give it my all as iv nothing to lose,
All that this medication is going to do is potentially get you in a calorie deficit by making you averse to consuming fat, so just consider what you are going to do to yourself to get there. When you counted your calories and figured you were eating 1,000, what was your process of calculating those? Like if you ate a salad and a sandwich, how would you figure the cals?
well so far iv had no side effects but then my fat intake for my breakfast lunch and snack is 15g, this is a normal work day for me iv not cut anything out, and i am at 6.5 miles on my fitbit today so far.
i have gone down the weighing food route, at one point i was weighing salad leaves which was shortly before i went to the doctors!
I weigh everything. Lettuce is a thing
I actually weigh lettuce to help me eat more of it - I was eating less before I started weighing and shooting for minimums on sandwiches, side salads, and entree salads.
I also weigh my salads. Bowl on the scale, weigh and tare for each ingredient. I'll even log curry powder and garlic and the like, 10 cals for my spray of oil etc. OP I know you don't want to hear it but most likely your food logging was quite a bit off, simplest answer is usually the most likely.
i get what you’re saying i really do, but i just don’t think someone who weighs 18 stone and walks 6/7 miles a day shouldn’t have to weigh lettuce to lose weight, my body just is just a mystery to me, day three no side effects of the tablets, another normal stool, positive is my diet doesn’t contain much fat, negative what next!? x
Maybe not lettuce, but certainly everything else. It's incredibly easy to eat in a calorie surplus.3 -
Oh man I was given this and my Dr said just don't the one before if you know you're going to a bad meal or drinking - TRY 2 DAYS! Not one tablet! They're super things and if you can get into Rhythm with them I bet they're great!12
-
I was on Orlistat many years ago. Yes, it dealt with the fat in my diet, but it didn't deal with the sugar and carbs that were also making me put the weight on. It didn't make me change the way I ate, and it didn't help me make different food choices, or understand how my body worked and what I needed to do for it to lose weight.
Motivation, willpower and being stuck on the toilet every day in pain, leaking oil for an hour, didn't do anything in the long run, either. I know you're desperate, but a quick and temporary fix is just that: temporary. Once you come off the tablets you'll maybe eat less fats, but there's no guarantee your consumption of non-fat calories will change naturally.
You have to be willing to put in the work of weighing and logging your food, making different choices, eating at a consistent calorie deficit, plodding on when everything seems too hard, and being patient when the scales don't seem to be moving. You can try every diet aid on the planet, and in the long run none of them will work if you don't change your behaviour around food.17 -
I have come to the conclusion that these tablets are as pointless as looking for support on here so no more advice needed.
you tell people you have lost three stone before by creating a calorie defecit and they tell you that you don’t know how to lose weight by creating a calorie defecit...
i explained that my body is losing weight much more slowly than before and tried these as i had nothing to lose and asked how much fat g to eat to not *kitten* myself while i did so.
my reference to lettuce was to explain that i was being meticulous with weighing all food to the point where i weighed the least calorie dense food in my diet as well yet somehow i’m adverse to weighing food.
chances are i am just going to have to accept i’m older, my body does not react to calorie defecit as fast as it use to and it’s going to be a long road to shift any, despite my heavy increase in exercise, a process which would be helped by supportive people who listen.
25 -
Millicent3015 wrote: »I was on Orlistat many years ago. Yes, it dealt with the fat in my diet, but it didn't deal with the sugar and carbs that were also making me put the weight on. It didn't make me change the way I ate, and it didn't help me make different food choices, or understand how my body worked and what I needed to do for it to lose weight.
Motivation, willpower and being stuck on the toilet every day in pain, leaking oil for an hour, didn't do anything in the long run, either. I know you're desperate, but a quick and temporary fix is just that: temporary. Once you come off the tablets you'll maybe eat less fats, but there's no guarantee your consumption of non-fat calories will change naturally.
You have to be willing to put in the work of weighing and logging your food, making different choices, eating at a consistent calorie deficit, plodding on when everything seems too hard, and being patient when the scales don't seem to be moving. You can try every diet aid on the planet, and in the long run none of them will work if you don't change your behaviour around food.
completely agree with this and think the tablets are a complete waste of time, they have had no effect as i don’t have a fatty diet hence why i went to the doctors to see why i wasn’t losing. i think patience is my downfall at the moment i have to accept that when i was younger i could easily lose 2-3lbs a week consistently, now doing the same with more exercise i am lucky to lose 0.5lb-1lb a week, i have to be stricter all of the time to shift a small amount even though i’m the most active iv ever been and that’s just how it is!! i will get there!!!
to be honest i am disappointed in these tablets, surely people either eat fatty foods and put up with diahreeha after or just eat something fatty and don’t take one to avoid it, i cannot see how they help anyone make better choices with food at all as you say2 -
I have come to the conclusion that these tablets are as pointless as looking for support on here so no more advice needed.
you tell people you have lost three stone before by creating a calorie defecit and they tell you that you don’t know how to lose weight by creating a calorie defecit...
i explained that my body is losing weight much more slowly than before and tried these as i had nothing to lose and asked how much fat g to eat to not *kitten* myself while i did so.
my reference to lettuce was to explain that i was being meticulous with weighing all food to the point where i weighed the least calorie dense food in my diet as well yet somehow i’m adverse to weighing food.
chances are i am just going to have to accept i’m older, my body does not react to calorie defecit as fast as it use to and it’s going to be a long road to shift any, despite my heavy increase in exercise, a process which would be helped by supportive people who listen.
Your initial question was about how much fat you should be consuming on the tablets. As I understand it, you were asking for advice, not support. You said you had nothing to lose, implying you were desperate, and that you'd tried to lose weight over a year and couldn't. Now you say you're losing some, but more slowly. The additional information you've given has been rather vague and somewhat contradictory, but you seem to be expecting everyone to know exactly what you mean. I suppose at least you've realized you need to manage your expectations, and you recognize that your rate of loss isn't what it used to be, so you can now make adjustments to your eating either with the tablets or without them.10 -
I think it's really going to depend on you, I took Alli years ago, I never had any problem, I stayed away from anything to fatty, so I wouldn't have any accidents, but even when I over did it, Peanut Butter was my down fall, the worst I had was wet farts, nothing worse. Your just going to have to pay attention for a while and see how much fat you can eat before you have issues.3
-
MelanieCN77 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »MelanieCN77 wrote: »kommodevaran wrote: »I think you just have to stop trying to game the system, and just accept that you have to eat a little less, but consistently, if you want to lose weight.
i have in the past lost 3 stone by creating a calorie deficit and making healthy food choices, i gained this back on. last year i went from an office job to working with horses, i average 7 miles a day walking, also involves carrying and lifting heavy stuff, i have for a year lost no weight doing this, struggling to find the correct calorie amount to lose weight, i can lose a lb here and there i can then gain without doing anything different and then it takes week to lose that gain, i weigh daily and i record my moving average, i don’t know if because i have dieted so many times in the past my body has just got use to a deficit or my metabolism has slowed right down. either way it seems wrong to only be able to eat 1,000 calories a day, drink 2l of water and do the exercise to do to lose weight, i cannot maintain this without feeling faint at work, if i increase to the my fitness pal calculations i start to gain again, i got to the point where i was counting macros, grams of fat and carbs and still long term the weights not budging, i went to the doctors to rule out any thyroid or polycistic ovaries, had tests and despite all symptoms of both they’ve come back clear...so he said about these tablets, they can’t make losing weight any more difficult then it already seems for me at the moment so i gave them a try. to be honest i am skeptical and embarrassed at it reaching this point, but thought i’d give it my all as iv nothing to lose,
All that this medication is going to do is potentially get you in a calorie deficit by making you averse to consuming fat, so just consider what you are going to do to yourself to get there. When you counted your calories and figured you were eating 1,000, what was your process of calculating those? Like if you ate a salad and a sandwich, how would you figure the cals?
well so far iv had no side effects but then my fat intake for my breakfast lunch and snack is 15g, this is a normal work day for me iv not cut anything out, and i am at 6.5 miles on my fitbit today so far.
i have gone down the weighing food route, at one point i was weighing salad leaves which was shortly before i went to the doctors!
I weigh everything. Lettuce is a thing
I actually weigh lettuce to help me eat more of it - I was eating less before I started weighing and shooting for minimums on sandwiches, side salads, and entree salads.
I also weigh my salads. Bowl on the scale, weigh and tare for each ingredient. I'll even log curry powder and garlic and the like, 10 cals for my spray of oil etc. OP I know you don't want to hear it but most likely your food logging was quite a bit off, simplest answer is usually the most likely.
i get what you’re saying i really do, but i just don’t think someone who weighs 18 stone and walks 6/7 miles a day shouldn’t have to weigh lettuce to lose weight, my body just is just a mystery to me, day three no side effects of the tablets, another normal stool, positive is my diet doesn’t contain much fat, negative what next!? x
I got to 27st6lb thinking I didn't eat much
I'm a volume eater, I could easily eat 5 or 6 servings of pasta and think I was only eating one. Same with cereal. Weighing it is a real eye opener7 -
I'm confused. Are you taking Orlistat or aren't you? Your original question was regarding how much fat you should consume while taking them, so I assumed you were, and now THREE WHOLE DAYS after your original post, you've decided that they don't work, so I assume you're not. Quick question: What did you think would happen in three days?
You've been told by several people that the only way to lose weight is to eat at a deficit. There are many ways to achieve a deficit, but you say that you can't, although I'm still not sure why.
I think many of us would like to help you. Do you want our help, or do you just want to cling to the belief that your body won't let you lose weight?
15 -
In your original post the think that struck me was "chocolate bar". Yes I know we can all eat everything that we want to maintain our deficit but day one and a chocolate bar? For me, nope. I have to have at least a few days of no chocolate snacks (I do have others instead). It was 15g of fat that you could have done without on a plan that has notorious outfit destroying side effects.
Just my opinion though.3
Categories
- All Categories
- 1.4M Health, Wellness and Goals
- 391.3K Introduce Yourself
- 43.4K Getting Started
- 259.7K Health and Weight Loss
- 175.6K Food and Nutrition
- 47.3K Recipes
- 232.3K Fitness and Exercise
- 387 Sleep, Mindfulness and Overall Wellness
- 6.4K Goal: Maintaining Weight
- 8.5K Goal: Gaining Weight and Body Building
- 152.7K Motivation and Support
- 7.8K Challenges
- 1.3K Debate Club
- 96.4K Chit-Chat
- 2.5K Fun and Games
- 3.2K MyFitnessPal Information
- 22 News and Announcements
- 901 Feature Suggestions and Ideas
- 2.2K MyFitnessPal Tech Support Questions