Apple Cider Vinegar
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IFIFYDoubleUbea wrote: »Enter your information into MFP and it will give you a recommended calorie amount for the day. Eat that amount of calories a day without going over and drink a teaspoon of ACV and you will lose weight.
Bonus. By not drinking ACV, you will save money on not buying as much ACV.
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The_Movie_Chair wrote: »Apple Cider Vinegar (the real one with the mother) has lots of benefits however weight loss is not one of them. I take it if I have acid reflux by husband drinks it every morning because he has gout.
For years I have touted the benefits of apple cider vinegar (ACV) with its positive health properties.
One might think, because of its sour taste, ACV would produce an acidic pH.
Imagine the pH scale as a line from 1-14; 7 being pure water. Everything below 7.0 is acidic and above 7.0 is alkaline. To be their healthiest, one should remain around 7.2 – 7.45. Just like lemon and lime, ACV turns into an alkaline pH as it metabolizes. Why is this important in the first place? Because an alkaline pH protects the body from toxic conditions and illnesses such as heart disease, diabetes, and cancers! A disease cannot thrive in an alkaline environment.
There’s another important benefit to having a more alkaline pH: it improves your mood! When someone is on the acidic scale side, below 6.9, they are usually grumpier; so provide more fruits, veggies, nuts, seeds, and herbs at mealtime to create a more pleasant family member....
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The_Movie_Chair wrote: »One might think, because of its sour taste, ACV would produce an acidic pH.
Imagine the pH scale as a line from 1-14; 7 being pure water. Everything below 7.0 is acidic and above 7.0 is alkaline. To be their healthiest, one should remain around 7.2 – 7.45. Just like lemon and lime, ACV turns into an alkaline pH as it metabolizes. Why is this important in the first place? Because an alkaline pH protects the body from toxic conditions and illnesses such as heart disease, diabetes, and cancers! A disease cannot thrive in an alkaline environment.
There’s another important benefit to having a more alkaline pH: it improves your mood! When someone is on the acidic scale side, below 6.9, they are usually grumpier; so provide more fruits, veggies, nuts, seeds, and herbs at mealtime to create a more pleasant family member.
This is total nonsense and hogwash. Life as we know it (human life at least) exists in the pH range of 7.35 - 7.45. If you get higher than this, you go to the hospital or you die. If you get lower than this, you go to the hospital or you die. Period. Foods do not change the acid/base levels of the body and if they did, it would kill you.
As for the minerals and probiotics, ACV is consumed in such small amounts and claimed benefits from nutrients would be negligible.
Organ, fluid or membrane pH Function of pH
Skin Natural pH is between 4 and 6.5 [17] Barrier protection from microbes
Urine 4.6 to 8.0 [18] Limit overgrowth of microbes
Gastric 1.35 to 3.5 Break down protein
Bile 7.6 to 8.8 Neutralize stomach acid, aid in digestion
Pancreatic fluid 8.8 Neutralize stomach acid, aid in digestion
Vaginal fluid <4.7 [13] Limit overgrowth of opportunistic microbes
Cerebrospinal fluid 7.3 Bathes the exterior of the brain
Intracellular fluid 6.0–7.2 [19] Due to acid production in cells
Serum venous 7.35 Tightly regulated
Serum arterial 7.4 Tightly regulated
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The_Movie_Chair wrote: »The_Movie_Chair wrote: »One might think, because of its sour taste, ACV would produce an acidic pH.
Imagine the pH scale as a line from 1-14; 7 being pure water. Everything below 7.0 is acidic and above 7.0 is alkaline. To be their healthiest, one should remain around 7.2 – 7.45. Just like lemon and lime, ACV turns into an alkaline pH as it metabolizes. Why is this important in the first place? Because an alkaline pH protects the body from toxic conditions and illnesses such as heart disease, diabetes, and cancers! A disease cannot thrive in an alkaline environment.
There’s another important benefit to having a more alkaline pH: it improves your mood! When someone is on the acidic scale side, below 6.9, they are usually grumpier; so provide more fruits, veggies, nuts, seeds, and herbs at mealtime to create a more pleasant family member.
This is total nonsense and hogwash. Life as we know it (human life at least) exists in the pH range of 7.35 - 7.45. If you get higher than this, you go to the hospital or you die. If you get lower than this, you go to the hospital or you die. Period. Foods do not change the acid/base levels of the body and if they did, it would kill you.
As for the minerals and probiotics, ACV is consumed in such small amounts and claimed benefits from nutrients would be negligible.
Organ, fluid or membrane pH Function of pH
Skin Natural pH is between 4 and 6.5 [17] Barrier protection from microbes
Urine 4.6 to 8.0 [18] Limit overgrowth of microbes
Gastric 1.35 to 3.5 Break down protein
Bile 7.6 to 8.8 Neutralize stomach acid, aid in digestion
Pancreatic fluid 8.8 Neutralize stomach acid, aid in digestion
Vaginal fluid <4.7 [13] Limit overgrowth of opportunistic microbes
Cerebrospinal fluid 7.3 Bathes the exterior of the brain
Intracellular fluid 6.0–7.2 [19] Due to acid production in cells
Serum venous 7.35 Tightly regulated
Serum arterial 7.4 Tightly regulated
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So which of the various values you are quoting above does the ACV effect and please tell me how they control your moods? Hint, the bolded values from your post are your blood stream and they are the most controlled and regulated within the body (and are referred to as the body's pH levels).9 -
ACV is great! It provide a convenient scapegoat when you fail for 20th time. "It's not my fault I can't keep the weight off".
*How can people be so frickin' gullible???9 -
alicebhsia1 wrote: »htimpaired wrote: »alicebhsia1 wrote: »The only "side effect" I've heard of is better liver functioning. I want to try it too but can never make it more than a couple days without forgetting to take it, so I can't say if it works or not. taking it for a couple/few days in a row did cure my nightly heartburn though. I wouldn't count on it for weight loss truly without additional watching your diet and exercise. Something that I think has helped me with weight loss though is drinking a pot of green tea everyday. I wouldn't be afraid to try the apple cider vinegar personally. I have a book by an Amish woman who swears it helps with weight loss. Her recommendation is to take one tablespoon of ACV in a small half glass of water mixed with a tablespoon of honey every day for two weeks for weight loss. It tastes pretty good this way.
Green tea doesn't help with weight loss. A calorie deficit does.
Apple cider vinegar doesn't help with weight loss. A calorie deficit does.
Green tea is said to stimulate your metabolism which aids in weight loss. When I first started drinking a pot of green tea everyday (I was trying to cut down on my coffee intake.) I wasn't eating any less than usual or exercising more and lost about ten pounds over three weeks. (And I put two teaspoons of sugar in every cup.) Of course I probably didn't overeat which most likely helped, but there's more to the human body than CICO. Not saying there isn't something to be said about CICO but metabolism plays a big factor too. Some people can eat a whole gallon of ice cream in one sitting and still not gain an ounce where another will eat 1/2 cup and gain a pound at the same rate of calorie expenditure. Have you tried green tea for weightloss, or apple cider vinegar? And even if you have, everyone is different. What works for one person may not work for another.. Apple cider vinegar is said to stimulate your liver functioning. So in someone with adequate liver functioning already it might not do anything, but for people with sluggish liver functioning it could help immensely. Liver functioning aids in digestion and poor digestion can lead to weight gain.
How would this be possible? I don't think you understand how energy balance works - it's not possible to create fat out of thin air, energy doesn't just attach itself randomly to certain people and stick there as fat.
I really like green tea, I used to drink pots of it every day when I was working. It has zero effect on metabolism, weight loss or liver function (I have fatty liver). It was helpful in managing my calories if I drank a cup of tea instead of reaching for a snickers bar, but diet coke worked just as well.
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The_Movie_Chair wrote: »The_Movie_Chair wrote: »One might think, because of its sour taste, ACV would produce an acidic pH.
Imagine the pH scale as a line from 1-14; 7 being pure water. Everything below 7.0 is acidic and above 7.0 is alkaline. To be their healthiest, one should remain around 7.2 – 7.45. Just like lemon and lime, ACV turns into an alkaline pH as it metabolizes. Why is this important in the first place? Because an alkaline pH protects the body from toxic conditions and illnesses such as heart disease, diabetes, and cancers! A disease cannot thrive in an alkaline environment.
There’s another important benefit to having a more alkaline pH: it improves your mood! When someone is on the acidic scale side, below 6.9, they are usually grumpier; so provide more fruits, veggies, nuts, seeds, and herbs at mealtime to create a more pleasant family member.
This is total nonsense and hogwash. Life as we know it (human life at least) exists in the pH range of 7.35 - 7.45. If you get higher than this, you go to the hospital or you die. If you get lower than this, you go to the hospital or you die. Period. Foods do not change the acid/base levels of the body and if they did, it would kill you.
As for the minerals and probiotics, ACV is consumed in such small amounts and claimed benefits from nutrients would be negligible.
Organ, fluid or membrane pH Function of pH
Skin Natural pH is between 4 and 6.5 [17] Barrier protection from microbes
Urine 4.6 to 8.0 [18] Limit overgrowth of microbes
Gastric 1.35 to 3.5 Break down protein
Bile 7.6 to 8.8 Neutralize stomach acid, aid in digestion
Pancreatic fluid 8.8 Neutralize stomach acid, aid in digestion
Vaginal fluid <4.7 [13] Limit overgrowth of opportunistic microbes
Cerebrospinal fluid 7.3 Bathes the exterior of the brain
Intracellular fluid 6.0–7.2 [19] Due to acid production in cells
Serum venous 7.35 Tightly regulated
Serum arterial 7.4 Tightly regulated
(There is more than Google -dig deeper)
I'm not sure where you cut and pasted this from, but adding the link would be appropriate.4 -
Once again, with feeling:
During weight loss, I drank ACV every day for weeks at a time, while tracking calorie intake and exercise as meticulously as I could manage. I also didn't drink ACV for weeks at a time, while also carefully tracking everything.
The ACV made zip - zero - nada difference in my weight loss rate. It made no perceptible difference in my appetite, cravings, energy level, satiation, or any other factor that could influence weight loss indirectly. None.
(I was drinking the ACV for reasons completely unrelated to weight loss, BTW, and stopped for quite a few weeks for reasons unrelated to ACV side effects. In particular, people often bring up how bad ACV is for your teeth or esophagus, but standard commercial ACV is not more acidic than a wide variety of common, everyday commercial beverages (even before dilution, when diluted is how most people drink it).)9 -
It just helps you poo.
I don't believe the bacteria lives to get to gut as I've found the cheap stuff without bacteria works too.
It's because it soluble fibre from the apples.
I have it in my food and occasionally drink a pint of water with 2tbsp of ACV with a straw.
It's never curves my hunger.
I find all the things that are said to curb hunger tend to not do that for me.4 -
umamageswary52 wrote: »
ACV does nothing for weight loss.
Weight loss is dictated by calories. There are no magic foods that can make someone lose or gain weight.1 -
umamageswary52 wrote: »
@umamageswary52
ACV does nothing for weight loss. As far as personal stories go, my diet has Cheetos Hot Fries three times a week (sometimes more - I really love them) and I've lost a bit over 190lbs. So does mean eating Cheetos causes weight loss? Pretty silly right - but it's the same analogy used for AVC. It's a long term overall calorie deficit that causes sustained weight loss, not a particular food.6 -
For $5 a bottle I would just say give it a try yourself. I find that it takes the edge off my Hunger. If you can find Torani sugar free caramel syrup mix it with water it will taste like drinking a caramel apple. I also use it in salads I like the taste.7
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ToadstoolBetty wrote: »It just helps you poo.
I don't believe the bacteria lives to get to gut as I've found the cheap stuff without bacteria works too.
It's because it soluble fibre from the apples.
I have it in my food and occasionally drink a pint of water with 2tbsp of ACV with a straw.
It's never curves my hunger.
I find all the things that are said to curb hunger tend to not do that for me.
Ummmmm, what fiber?
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Just used it to curdle some almond milk for a carrot cornbread. Since I plan to eat that cornbread within my calories, I guess the ACV will help with weight-loss if I like the result and can hold myself to the portion I intend to have...4
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alicebhsia1 wrote: »Stockholm_Andy wrote: »alicebhsia1 wrote: »htimpaired wrote: »alicebhsia1 wrote: »The only "side effect" I've heard of is better liver functioning. I want to try it too but can never make it more than a couple days without forgetting to take it, so I can't say if it works or not. taking it for a couple/few days in a row did cure my nightly heartburn though. I wouldn't count on it for weight loss truly without additional watching your diet and exercise. Something that I think has helped me with weight loss though is drinking a pot of green tea everyday. I wouldn't be afraid to try the apple cider vinegar personally. I have a book by an Amish woman who swears it helps with weight loss. Her recommendation is to take one tablespoon of ACV in a small half glass of water mixed with a tablespoon of honey every day for two weeks for weight loss. It tastes pretty good this way.
Green tea doesn't help with weight loss. A calorie deficit does.
Apple cider vinegar doesn't help with weight loss. A calorie deficit does.
Green tea is said to stimulate your metabolism which aids in weight loss. When I first started drinking a pot of green tea everyday (I was trying to cut down on my coffee intake.) I wasn't eating any less than usual or exercising more and lost about ten pounds over three weeks. (And I put two teaspoons of sugar in every cup.) Of course I probably didn't overeat which most likely helped, but there's more to the human body than CICO. Not saying there isn't something to be said about CICO but metabolism plays a big factor too. Some people can eat a whole gallon of ice cream in one sitting and still not gain an ounce where another will eat 1/2 cup and gain a pound at the same rate of calorie expenditure. Have you tried green tea for weightloss, or apple cider vinegar? And even if you have, everyone is different. What works for one person may not work for another.. Apple cider vinegar is said to stimulate your liver functioning. So in someone with adequate liver functioning already it might not do anything, but for people with sluggish liver functioning it could help immensely. Liver functioning aids in digestion and poor digestion can lead to weight gain.
I wholeheartedly disagree with every single point you made there.
How much more wrong could you be? None.
Well, have you tried green tea or ACV personally and can speak from personal experience? So you disagree that green tea stimulates your metabolism and that vinegar is good for a sluggish liver? Why?
No I have not tried green tea or ACV and I am not speaking from personal experience but I disagree with what you are saying because Science.
In other news i havent tried jumping from a 10 story building but I disagree it would be a good idea because Gravity.
sometimes we dont need personal experience to understand something .
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For $5 a bottle I would just say give it a try yourself. I find that it takes the edge off my Hunger. If you can find Torani sugar free caramel syrup mix it with water it will taste like drinking a caramel apple. I also use it in salads I like the taste.
If you like the taste - fine.
Just like any other food item
But the logic in trying it just because it only costs $5 a bottle eludes me.
you could substitute anything in there - tin of beetroot, 2 bananas, punnet of strawberries, can of coke, tin of dog food - all cost less than $5 - why not try them as a weight loss aid???
well, because doing so makes no sense.
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I really like Green Tea, well Black Tea as well. Been drinking it for years. Guess what I am Obese, guess the magic did not work on me!
Apple Cider Vinegar. Well the acid will eventually ruin your teeth. I have used it as a hair rinse when I ran out of conditioner it does make your hair wonderfully soft.
But to lose weight um no! Just more quack sites, people wanting you to part with your money.1 -
what The-Movie C said2
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Husband had a "bad " stomach for years & I used to have acid reflux regularly till we started ACV, it works great for that1
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