Why do vegetables have fat?
MikeLearnsHowToEat
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Hi, so I’ve been thinking about fat. Animal fat is probably a good thing to eat I reckon because it’s natures way of storing food for the animal to use later, so it’s probably a pretty good food source for us too. But what about vegetables? Like, why does an olive have fat? Or an avocado?
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Huh. I've been around here a few years but I've never seen that asked. Good one!
I'm guessing here....
Vegetables don't have much fat. Fruits tend to have more fat, so maybe like having more sugar, it is to induce animals to eat it and spread the seeds. Olives, coconuts, and avocados are all fruits (technically, so are nuts) so maybe it appeals to animals that like fats? Actual vegetables like lettuce don't have the tasty fat, and don't want those parts to be eaten. Maybe.
Maybe it is for storage. The seeds are surrounded by/made of fats and the fats act as a preservative? Or maybe the seeds can use the fats for germination and early growth.
Fat is not the typical energy storage for plants. That's usually sugars or starch, depending on the plant.1 -
Hmmm. It’s an interesting question isn’t it? Google doesn’t seem to know either.0
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That's a question for God (if you have one), not for MFP.
Maybe so that the animals who eat only vegetables will get some essential amount of fat? Fat is a good way for plants to store food, too. Seeds are mostly little nutrition bundles designed to feed the baby plant until it can get roots down, and they normally contain fats. Some seeds have little fat bloblets on the outside called elaiosomes; they're designed to be tasty to persuade ants and such to move the seeds around so the plants are more widely distributed. Some other plants may contain fats for similar reasons - to get animals to eat/spread them. There are even some seeds that need to go through an animal's digestive system to thrive.
And why would you ask this question about fats? Wouldn't the same logic apply to carbs in plants, or proteins?
I can't decide whether I believe you're over-thinking this, or under-thinking it.
Eating lots of animal fat probably mostly isn't really a super-great plan for humans, BTW.2 -
Because I’m trying to work out what macro ratio I should have. I just read an article that said people who ate 35% of their calories from fat were 23% less likely to die over the 7 years of the study. So it’s obviously good for you. I’m trying to properly learn about foods - like fundamentally. I like your idea that the seeds have stored fat to feed them while they grow - before they can get any sunlight I assume.6
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Try using this to figure out your macros:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/819055/setting-your-calorie-and-macro-targets
It's easier than trying to work it out by speculating about plant fats, or reading dozens of research papers. Humans are pretty adaptable omnivores. Get enough protein, enough fats (the plant ones are good for you, BTW), and a boatload of fruits/veggies, hit your calorie goal, and you'll do fine.2 -
MikeLearnsHowToEat wrote: »Because I’m trying to work out what macro ratio I should have. I just read an article that said people who ate 35% of their calories from fat were 23% less likely to die over the 7 years of the study. So it’s obviously good for you. I’m trying to properly learn about foods - like fundamentally. I like your idea that the seeds have stored fat to feed them while they grow - before they can get any sunlight I assume.
Could you share the article? Thanks.0 -
Lipids are essential components of plants. They provide the energy for metabolic processes, are structural components for membranes, and are important intracellular signals. In recent years a variety of lipophilic molecules have been discussed as long-distance signals as well. While some of these lipids are related to biotic stress/pathogen response and systemic acquired resistance, others are good candidates for signals in response to abiotic stress.
http://lipidlibrary.aocs.org/Biochemistry/content.cfm?ItemNumber=4135712 -
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MikeLearnsHowToEat wrote: »Hmmm. It’s an interesting question isn’t it? Google doesn’t seem to know either.
😉😉6 -
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MikeLearnsHowToEat wrote: »Hi, so I’ve been thinking about fat. Animal fat is probably a good thing to eat I reckon because it’s natures way of storing food for the animal to use later, so it’s probably a pretty good food source for us too. But what about vegetables? Like, why does an olive have fat? Or an avocado?
They’re conspiring....0 -
MikeLearnsHowToEat wrote: »
Thanks.
It would have been interesting if they approached that more exactly with the macros. Like:
high carb = 65% C, 20% P, 15% F
Moderation = 40% C, 20% P, 40% F
high fat = 15% C, 20% P, 65% F
Or something like that.
Their "high fat" diet was only 35%. That is barely high, and may be more moderate depending on your calorie intake.0 -
I would think macro goals are an individual thing depending on your nutritional goals. A person with diabetes might have lower carb goals than others. Someone focused on building muscle might focus on increasing protein. I often try to pick foods based on the DASH diet for hypertension rather than macro goals. Coincidentally when I am more compliant about it, my macros line up pretty close to the MFP generic settings. I do find it interesting to look at each person’s approach toward weight loss. We are each unique and each have different goals. I learn a lot from other people’s perspectives.0
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maybe because those things you mention are seed carriers, maybe the fat protects the seed, provides nutrients to grow a new plant. IDK. That's my 50 cent guess.
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http://lifeofplant.blogspot.com/2011/03/lipids.html
Not a fan of blogs but this has an excellent explanation about the function of fat in plants.2 -
So they don’t get cold?
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Some plants seeds only germinate after passing through an animal's digestive tract. Tasty, accessible fat can serve as an evolutionary advantage. The avocado used an animal which did not survive human invasion of the western hemisphere following the most recent ice age.0
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