Belviq or Wellbutrin for Weight Loss
mjc8080
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Just seeing if anyone has had success incorporating Belviq, Wellbutrin, or Phentermine while losing weight? I am thinking of seeing if my doctor can write out a prescription for one of these, as I hear it can help with hunger, cravings, binge eating, etc. Thanks.
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Before you reach for the pills why don't you try for one month just using MFP to record your calorie intake.
Enter your stats, set it to lose a pound a week eat the calories that MFP give you, if you exercise then log that and eat back 50% of those calories. As long as you are weighing and measuring everything you eat and drink and logging it honestly you will lose weight.
So many of us have taken control of our eating by using this method, it really works. Yes you need to use some will power, yes you need to be patient, yes there will be days where it gets away from you, yes your weight will go up and down a bit. But this really works.
Of course you can ask your doctor to prescribe something but you won't be able to take it forever and if you haven't learned how to eat the correct amount of calories and portion sizing then you will probably gain the weight back. Also there could be side effects that might be dangerous to your health.
Just give it one month, if you lose a few pounds then try for another month and so on. Pretty soon you will see the process works.
Good luck.
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I haven't had any experience with any of these, nor am I a health professional, so I'm not really qualified to talk about whether they help with weight loss, so feel free to ignore the rest of this comment if you would like to.
That said, unless you have an urgent need to lose weight immediately, or other health issues that these medications would treat, I would caution you to seriously think about your long-term goals. Do you plan to be on a drug like this forever, to ensure you maintain a healthy weight? Do you plan to use one of these drugs short-term to help you learn how to moderate your intake, then wean off and continue your newly found path?
For myself and many people here, the simple solution for weight loss is CICO, and learning habits that we can use to be healthy in the long run. Sometimes the tools needed to reach our goals include medication, therapy, surgery, etc., but for many people (including myself) it's simply learning what adequate, healthy portion sizes are and adjusting our lifestyles and eating habits to keep ourselves healthy.
Best of luck whatever you decide in your journey.5 -
I took Phentermine about 10 years ago. It worked for me - I wasn't as hungry so ate less and lost 21 pounds. However, my body got used to taking the drug and it wasn't as effective after a while. Also, my blood pressure was high from taking it. I decided to stop taking it. Fast forward 10 years - I've only been on MFP for three weeks and have lost seven pounds. I'm eating 1500 calories a day and pretty much eat what I want within those calories. So far, it's working. I may need to make some adjustments down the road but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
You may want to try MFP and just start tracking what you eat. You will find you can fit in foods that you really enjoy and make losing weight feel not so "diety". You may not be able to eat all you want but enough that you won't feel deprived.
Good luck in whatever you decide to do!
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Just seeing if anyone has had success incorporating Belviq, Wellbutrin, or Phentermine while losing weight? I am thinking of seeing if my doctor can write out a prescription for one of these, as I hear it can help with hunger, cravings, binge eating, etc. Thanks.
I take Wellbutrin for depression and have taken Phentermine (with Fenfluramine.)
I just learned this about Belviq:
http://healthland.time.com/2012/06/28/belviq-5-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-new-diet-pill/
There was also some concern that Belviq caused tumors in animals and heart-valve defects in people. A similar serotonin-based drug that had been approved for weight loss — fenfluramine — was removed from the market in 1997 because of the same heart concerns.
In 2010, the FDA rejected Arena’s first request for approval, asking for more evidence of its safety. New data provided by the company showed that heart problems would not occur at the low doses at which Belviq would be prescribed. The FDA won’t require patients taking Belviq to be monitored for heart-valve damage, but the company is required to conduct six studies once the drug reaches the market to determine whether it causes heart attacks or stroke in people who take it.
Why did it take so long to get a new weight-loss drug approved?
The history of diet pills has been plagued by safety problems. Since 1999, when the last prescription weight-loss medication, Xenical (orlistat), was given the green light, one weight loss drug, Meridia (sibutramine) was taken off the market when users began showing increased risk of heart problems, and two others, Belviq and Qnexa, were rejected by the FDA over safety concerns. Manipulating the body’s weight-controlling pathways can have long-term consequences on the heart and other metabolic systems, so drug developers have a high bar to clear to prove their compounds are safe.
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Phen/fen worked marvelously for me, but once fenfluramine was withdrawn from the market I didn't get the same results from phentermine alone or with some drugs that were supposed to be similar to fenfluramine.
I didn't learn healthy eating habits when my appetite was artificially suppressed by taking a legal amphetamine-like drug and I gained all the weight back when I stopped taking it. And now I am on medication for heart palpitations.
Here's my new favorite post about Phentermine: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10329901/phentermine/p1itschanelle wrote: »I have seen a lot of posts on and off about this and other weight loss drugs. I can vouch that they absolutely work. I have lost a lot weight using Phentermine on and off throughout about a 10 year span.
BUT...
The weight doesn't stay off. And those side effects? They are real.
You could take Phentermine and lose the weight, but you might end up like me. I'm 30 years old, slightly over weight, and have moderate tricuspid valve regurgitation. As in, I might need open heart surgery because my heart was damaged by Phentermine. To be clear, I never took it for more than a few months at a time, was monitored by a doctor, and did everything "right".
My lifespan has likely been shortened to lose a few pounds. Weight I could have lost on my own with a little bit of gumption. It wasn't worth it.6 -
When I do the following, I don't have cravings:
1. Get sufficient sleep
2. Exercise regularly - when I get the happy hormones from exercise, I'm not prone to seeking them from food.
3. Get sufficient protein in relationship to carbs. I'm not low carb, but reducing carbs and upping protein worked for cravings for me. See also http://www.nutrition.org.uk/healthyliving/fuller/understanding-satiety-feeling-full-after-a-meal.html
4. Eat moderate amounts of fruit. This makes me less interested in higher calorie sweets.
5. Take a magnesium supplement. This can be especially helpful for women premenstrually.
6. Save foods like chocolate for after dinner, in small amounts
7. Stay hydrated
8. Have a calorie deficit that is appropriate for the amount of weight I need to lose. An overly aggressive goal can definitely lead to cravings.
9. Eat at maintenance when my appetite goes up premenstrually.
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I have taken phentermine and am currently on wellbutrin for depression. I can tell you that neither one caused a substantial increase in weight lost as compared to not taking them.
I would try this app for for, say, a month and see how it works out for you. Like others have said you cant take it forever. Also, the majority of people that I've either know personally or heard on here that have taken phentermine and then went off of it, gained all the weight back plus some 🤷♀️
Please dont rely on drugs to get you to your goals...other than that, best of luck to you!3 -
I took phentermine a couple years ago and became such a raging psycho I had to stop taking it. I was on Wellbutrin for depression and it agitated my bipolar disorder so I had to stop taking it. But I didn't notice any weightloss on it. Like at all.1
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I took Wellbutrin years ago as it is often prescribed to people trying to quit smoking...it neither helped me quite smoking, nor did I lose any weight.0
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Many of the posters on MFP are avidly anti-prescription diet pill. This probably isn't the best site to mention that you're taking them because the critics will pile on claiming they are concerned for your health. If you want support, talk to your doctor about it and see what he/she says. Most doctors will not prescribe diet pills.
I've taken phentermine, Fen-phen and Belviq. I thought Fen-phen was the best stuff ever except for the heart valve damage issue. Truly, except for the death side effect, it was a miracle drug. They don't sell it anymore, obviously. Phentermine feels to me like I've drunk a lot of caffeinated coffee and it does help eliminate appetite so it's easier to eat less and lose weight. I don't like the feeling it gives me.
My doctor is a big fan of Belviq and tried to get me to take it from the time it first came on the market. He takes it himself. I started taking it a year or so ago. I take a half dose (10 mg once a day instead of twice) and have been on and off it a couple times. It's about $100 per month with the coupon from the manufacturer and is not covered by my insurance even if used for diabetics. In trials there were concerns about the possibility of heart valve damage because fenfluramine had that issue. There were no cases of heart valve damage reported in trials or since, just the concern that it might be a possibility in any diet drug.
Belviq works differently from other diet pills. It doesn't work for everyone. You are either a "responder" or not. You can tell after several weeks of use whether or not it is working for you. If it isn't, you're not a responder and it is useless to continue it. If you are a responder, it will make you become satiated faster with smaller amounts of food. Unlike phentermine, which makes you not hungry, with Belviq, you will still get hungry. You just get full with about half the amount of food and will likely have almost no food cravings. It's like a willpower booster. I believe I remember reading that about half of people are responders. The first couple days of use, you may get a headache and be VERY tired. I'd suggest starting it when you don't have to work and have no social commitments, such as a quiet weekend.2 -
I have Wellbutrin and it’s ok but my adhd meds help a lot more0
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Many of the posters on MFP are avidly anti-prescription diet pill. This probably isn't the best site to mention that you're taking them because the critics will pile on claiming they are concerned for your health. If you want support, talk to your doctor about it and see what he/she says. Most doctors will not prescribe diet pills.
I've taken phentermine, Fen-phen and Belviq. I thought Fen-phen was the best stuff ever except for the heart valve damage issue. Truly, except for the death side effect, it was a miracle drug. They don't sell it anymore, obviously. Phentermine feels to me like I've drunk a lot of caffeinated coffee and it does help eliminate appetite so it's easier to eat less and lose weight. I don't like the feeling it gives me.
My doctor is a big fan of Belviq and tried to get me to take it from the time it first came on the market. He takes it himself. I started taking it a year or so ago. I take a half dose (10 mg once a day instead of twice) and have been on and off it a couple times. It's about $100 per month with the coupon from the manufacturer and is not covered by my insurance even if used for diabetics. In trials there were concerns about the possibility of heart valve damage because fenfluramine had that issue. There were no cases of heart valve damage reported in trials or since, just the concern that it might be a possibility in any diet drug.
Belviq works differently from other diet pills. It doesn't work for everyone. You are either a "responder" or not. You can tell after several weeks of use whether or not it is working for you. If it isn't, you're not a responder and it is useless to continue it. If you are a responder, it will make you become satiated faster with smaller amounts of food. Unlike phentermine, which makes you not hungry, with Belviq, you will still get hungry. You just get full with about half the amount of food and will likely have almost no food cravings. It's like a willpower booster. I believe I remember reading that about half of people are responders. The first couple days of use, you may get a headache and be VERY tired. I'd suggest starting it when you don't have to work and have no social commitments, such as a quiet weekend.
Yeah, I thought fen/phen was the best stuff ever until the heart valve issue too. That's part of why I'm anti-prescription diet pill.
Also when I stopped taking it, i gained the weight back. Seems like the same was true for you, seeing how you were taking Rx pills back in the fen-phen days and again during the Belviq days.
So now I think it's better to lose weight without artificially suppressing your appetite, so you can learn healthy habits without that crutch.
I'd love to have my happy pill/speed cocktail back, if I could take it forever with no consequences. But that is simply not possible.9 -
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Also when I stopped taking it, i gained the weight back. Seems like the same was true for you, seeing how you were taking Rx pills back in the fen-phen days and again during the Belviq days.
So now I think it's better to lose weight without artificially suppressing your appetite, so you can learn healthy habits without that crutch.
I'd love to have my happy pill/speed cocktail back, if I could take it forever with no consequences. But that is simply not possible.
Very true. I don't think I gained Fen-phen weight back for several years. Actually, I think my current ideal weight is somewhere around my "fat" weight in my Fen-phen days.
I don't see any problem with using a little help to lose weight. Of course, we have to practice healthy habits both to lose weight and to keep it off whether or not we use medication. I've lost hundreds of pounds over the years. And I've lost it quite a few times. I've kept it off for periods of years here and there, and other times gained it back immediately. If I were ever going to stick to a lifetime of healthy habits, it would have happened by now. I stopped thinking weight loss was going to be permanent about 4 "lifestyle changes" ago and it has nothing to do with my use of diet pills for about 3 months in my mid 20's or again in my very late 40's for about a month or now in my early 50's for about a year.
I wouldn't recommend diet pills to anyone. If you want lose weight without them, I think that is best. I also think the risk of some diet pills is less than the risk of obesity related health complications. Phentermine (the happy pill/speed) has a long safe track record. Belviq (no happiness or speed effect from that) has a short, safe track record so it is way too soon to tell whether it is truly safe or not. Check back in about 10 years.0 -
I started my journey right on the app, while under medical supervision. I need to lose about 60-70 lbs, I am also pre-diabetic and my cholesterol is a bit high. Doctor decided to put me on a low 1200 cal diet and also prescribed Belviq. I keep track of my calorie intake, I log in all my foods here and also take the Belviq XR which is once a day and Metformin twice a day for blood sugar. I started my diet on December 27, 2019 and a week later I started with Belviq. I have lost 15 lbs. No significant side effects. I got my heart tested before starting medication since this is important. Good luck1
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I was on Welbutrin for depression right around this time last year when I started trying to lose weight and get healthier. With consistent diet and regular exercise I was able to lose the need for the antideppressant and have been off of it since April, about 9 months. I did notice my appetite increase a bit after I went off, but was initially able to keep the weight off. I eventually gained a few pounds back but that was stress and vacation and not related to the meds. All of teh add and antideppressants that have been effective for me likely target dopamine. I incorporated L-tyrosine as a supplement and was able to squelch some of teh additional hunger that happened when going off the Welbutrin.
Long back story, but regular moderate exercise can be as good if not better than certain drugs. The addition of supplements like tyrosine may help in some cases to boost energy and suppress cravings. YMMV.0 -
Hunger, craving, binging, etc., are things that are very context sensitive. If you've been overeating and have not been on a healthy track in general, cravings and poor food discipline can really make it hard to diet. But once you're rolling with a diet, a lot of that stuff miraculously goes away or goes so deep into the background that it isn't much of a problem, except for the occasional inexplicable binge, which is GOING TO HAPPEN whether you take a pill or not.
The problem with prescription diet pills is what the pharma companies always say at the bottom. And I'm paraphrasing Belvic here: IF you combine Belvic with diet and exercise, you may lose 5 % of your weight in 12 weeks.
Another way to lose 5 % of your body weight in 12 weeks is to just do the diet and exercise and skip the pill. In fact, any kind of reasonable diet and exercise program will easily take off that 5 % in 12 weeks - for a 200 lb person, that'd be well under a pound a week, and for a 300 pound person it's be slightly over a pound a week, but as a previous 300 pounder, I can tell you that weight drops very, very fast when you're 300 pounds, so that'd be easy.
Also, there's no telling whether the first week or two, when most people drop a bunch of water weight, is being included in Belviq's "5 %" claim. It probably is. That's the Nutrisystem trick - "lose 10 pounds in 30 days". Well, yeah, many people lose 5-6 pounds in the first week. Of which fat constitutes a pound of it. The rest is water and will come right back as soon as you stop dieting. Good for marketing purposes, though.
In truth, all Belvic (and the others) are saying is, if you diet, exercise and take this pill, you'll lose the weight you'd lose with diet and exercise. So ... why bother? We know these pills have side effects. Any time you flood your brain with chemicals, you're taking a risk. At least reserve that for risks that are necessary.
I know it's a little intimidating starting a diet and thinking you're going to be hungry and binge-y and all that, but those sensations can subside and/or disappear rather quickly once you get in gear - the right mindset, exercise, and the right amount of food.
In truth all you need is an MFP calorie goal, good calorie counting, hitting that target everyday, and some physical activity. You will lose the weight. And in a couple of weeks you will have much better control over your hunger and cravings, all by yourself, without the aid of a pill.
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What have you tried so far to lose weight, for what duration (meaning every day for x weeks/months/years) and what have been your results? These medications are not without side effects and are only tools to curb cravings which are learned behaviors. Once you stop the medication the cravings will return if you don't fix the underlying problem (eating too many highly palatable, highly caloric foods). You still have to maintain a calorie deficit and should be eating highly nutritious, lower calorie foods (i.e. whole foods, not ultraprocessed foods) which can reduce the cravings.0
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Wellbutrin is not a "diet pill." It is a drug designed to treat people with a medical condition--depression. Some patients do experience a side-effect of weight-loss while taking Wellbutrin. This can be helpful as many patients experience weight gain as a symptom of depression.
Taking medicine for which you do not have the condition which it is designed to treat is not a good idea. And it could be dangerous, akin to someone taking thyroid drugs who do not have hypothyroidism (which can slow metabolism a bit) so they can "speed up" their metabolism and lose weight. They could very well speed it up into a heart attack.0 -
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