Frustrated with protein
esharpmajor
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Hey folks,
I was recently diagnosed with gestational diabetes, so ive had to once again overhaul my diet. I’ve been trying through my whole pregnancy to eat healthier and got this ap to help. It’s been great, but enlightening in that I realized how much had to change and how poorly I was eating before. I have always been a carb junky, so I cut out white flour, pop, and as much added sugar as possible. The result? I hate everything. I thought I would retrain my body to like healthy food but instead my appetite has plummeted and I am struggling to eat enough.
With my new GD restrictions I’m finding it even more frustrating to meet caloric and nutritional goals. I’ve lost 6lbs over the entire pregnancy and now I’m almost 8months a long and my OB keeps telling me I need to be getting more calories! I just can’t! Not without eating cakes and breads and that sort of thing - it’s the only food I am able to keep down/pallet. I’m supposed to be at 2500 (maintenance + 500 for third trimester) but I’m eating more like 1500-1800 at best. I’m told I need to eat a million little meals but short of just eating straight meat every half an hour I can’t figure out how to keep Cals up while meeting protein goals and not going over on carbs, fats and sugar.
The result is I’ve been losing weight without really intending to. I just can’t stomach this diet! All the protein and fibrous foods I choke down, eat just enough to fill up and then gratefully stop eating. Eating has become a chore. I hate it.
Anyway my main question is how the hell are people meeting their protein goals? Anything more than 4oz of meat and I start throwing up. I’m constantly under my Calorie goals (a problem I’ve never had before...) and the only way I ever meet them is if I go way over on fats (adding avacado or eggs to everything = too much fat and cholesterol.)
Below is an example of my day, please let me know if you can see where I’m messing up:
Breakfast: I’ve replaced my morning coffee with one cup coffee mixed with low sugar ensure protein drink. I drink half now. I then have a high protein and fibre cereal, (currently liking “edge”) with skim milk, or a fibre 1 bar (5g sugar, ugh), depending on if I’m running late or not.
Snack: pepperoni stick or hard boiled egg and a babybell.
Lunch: sandwich with ancient grain bread, three slices turkey breast, spring greens and an oz of cheese. Side of raw veggies.
Snack: mid afternoon: 1 serving fruit, the other half of my coffee and protein drink.
Dinner: 4oz meat (usually chicken, I have fish or red meat once a week each. This is paired with a either a big salad with nuts, cheese, berries or fruit. (Last night we did spinach, feta, blackberries and walnuts for example.) or roasted veggies. Small serving of starch like grains or potatoes, no white flour. 2 cups skim milk.
Sometimes if I threw up or my husband calls me out on not having finished a meal he force feeds me a smoothie with Greek yoghurt, kale, and banana. I *loathe* smoothies. this always results in me begging for mercy but I usually manage to down a cup.
To me the above seems balanced, healthy, but once entered I fume realizing I’m way under on protein, over on fat, over on sugar, under on fibre and under on overall calories. Add in some walking, cleaning or excersize and I’ll be anywhere from 1000-1500 under. I worry I’m hurting my baby, and losing muscle. I’m super worried that it will impact my milk supply once I’m breast feeding cuz I’ll need even more calories then.
I’m tempted to just eat a croissant or cake or something just for the calories but I can’t due to the GD. Sometimes I’ll end up having crackers and cream cheese or nut butter but then I go wildly over on fat, and still don’t meet protein targets. I’m At a loss.
Any suggestions on how to improve this with substitutions that will allow a similar amount of prep? Thanks for any help.
I was recently diagnosed with gestational diabetes, so ive had to once again overhaul my diet. I’ve been trying through my whole pregnancy to eat healthier and got this ap to help. It’s been great, but enlightening in that I realized how much had to change and how poorly I was eating before. I have always been a carb junky, so I cut out white flour, pop, and as much added sugar as possible. The result? I hate everything. I thought I would retrain my body to like healthy food but instead my appetite has plummeted and I am struggling to eat enough.
With my new GD restrictions I’m finding it even more frustrating to meet caloric and nutritional goals. I’ve lost 6lbs over the entire pregnancy and now I’m almost 8months a long and my OB keeps telling me I need to be getting more calories! I just can’t! Not without eating cakes and breads and that sort of thing - it’s the only food I am able to keep down/pallet. I’m supposed to be at 2500 (maintenance + 500 for third trimester) but I’m eating more like 1500-1800 at best. I’m told I need to eat a million little meals but short of just eating straight meat every half an hour I can’t figure out how to keep Cals up while meeting protein goals and not going over on carbs, fats and sugar.
The result is I’ve been losing weight without really intending to. I just can’t stomach this diet! All the protein and fibrous foods I choke down, eat just enough to fill up and then gratefully stop eating. Eating has become a chore. I hate it.
Anyway my main question is how the hell are people meeting their protein goals? Anything more than 4oz of meat and I start throwing up. I’m constantly under my Calorie goals (a problem I’ve never had before...) and the only way I ever meet them is if I go way over on fats (adding avacado or eggs to everything = too much fat and cholesterol.)
Below is an example of my day, please let me know if you can see where I’m messing up:
Breakfast: I’ve replaced my morning coffee with one cup coffee mixed with low sugar ensure protein drink. I drink half now. I then have a high protein and fibre cereal, (currently liking “edge”) with skim milk, or a fibre 1 bar (5g sugar, ugh), depending on if I’m running late or not.
Snack: pepperoni stick or hard boiled egg and a babybell.
Lunch: sandwich with ancient grain bread, three slices turkey breast, spring greens and an oz of cheese. Side of raw veggies.
Snack: mid afternoon: 1 serving fruit, the other half of my coffee and protein drink.
Dinner: 4oz meat (usually chicken, I have fish or red meat once a week each. This is paired with a either a big salad with nuts, cheese, berries or fruit. (Last night we did spinach, feta, blackberries and walnuts for example.) or roasted veggies. Small serving of starch like grains or potatoes, no white flour. 2 cups skim milk.
Sometimes if I threw up or my husband calls me out on not having finished a meal he force feeds me a smoothie with Greek yoghurt, kale, and banana. I *loathe* smoothies. this always results in me begging for mercy but I usually manage to down a cup.
To me the above seems balanced, healthy, but once entered I fume realizing I’m way under on protein, over on fat, over on sugar, under on fibre and under on overall calories. Add in some walking, cleaning or excersize and I’ll be anywhere from 1000-1500 under. I worry I’m hurting my baby, and losing muscle. I’m super worried that it will impact my milk supply once I’m breast feeding cuz I’ll need even more calories then.
I’m tempted to just eat a croissant or cake or something just for the calories but I can’t due to the GD. Sometimes I’ll end up having crackers and cream cheese or nut butter but then I go wildly over on fat, and still don’t meet protein targets. I’m At a loss.
Any suggestions on how to improve this with substitutions that will allow a similar amount of prep? Thanks for any help.
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Swap skimmed milk for full fat.
If you don't like smoothie why not just eat some Greek yoghurt with fruit in instead?
And more peanut butter is always the answer!5 -
TavistockToad wrote: »Swap skimmed milk for full fat.
If you don't like smoothie why not just eat some Greek yoghurt with fruit in instead?
And more peanut butter is always the answer!
I thought I heard someone say this in the distance so I came running!6 -
TavistockToad wrote: »Swap skimmed milk for full fat.
If you don't like smoothie why not just eat some Greek yoghurt with fruit in instead?
And more peanut butter is always the answer!
I thought I heard someone say this in the distance so I came running!
I'm nothing if not predictable!!1 -
Not a doctor, so I don't know much about the medical side of this, but do you need to worry about fat right now? If it's not medically necessary, I would think for the short term getting enough calories is more important than how much fat your eating. Obviously disregard that if your doctor has told you otherwise!
Maybe this thread will help:
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10703435/what-do-you-do-about-being-hungry/p1
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I get most of my protein from premier protein shakes (30g per shake) and Pure protein bars 21g per bar.1
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TavistockToad wrote: »Swap skimmed milk for full fat.
If you don't like smoothie why not just eat some Greek yoghurt with fruit in instead?
And more peanut butter is always the answer!
Thank you for the tip, i was worried about going way over on fat though, I already am right at the goal or over it as it is. Plain Greek yoghurt is just disgusting to me, lol only way I can stomach it is if I add honey but that’s not very GD friendly unfortunately. I swear I’m not usually this picky it’s been magnified by having a baby on board. 😬0 -
esharpmajor wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Swap skimmed milk for full fat.
If you don't like smoothie why not just eat some Greek yoghurt with fruit in instead?
And more peanut butter is always the answer!
Thank you for the tip, i was worried about going way over on fat though, I already am right at the goal or over it as it is. Plain Greek yoghurt is just disgusting to me, lol only way I can stomach it is if I add honey but that’s not very GD friendly unfortunately. I swear I’m not usually this picky it’s been magnified by having a baby on board. 😬
If you're reducing your carbs then you need to increase another macro. Eating more fat is easier than eating loads more protein once you hit your minimum protein amount.7 -
I would try to eat more of what you already do. More calories at each sitting.1
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How much time have you been eating this way? If you increased your fiber intake by a lot very quickly your stomach can be unhappy for a while. Maybe things like eggs and yogurt would be better in the morning than high fiber cereal while you adjust. In any case, you have a lot of special considerations so going to a dietician would be a good idea if that is an option for you.3
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TavistockToad wrote: »esharpmajor wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Swap skimmed milk for full fat.
If you don't like smoothie why not just eat some Greek yoghurt with fruit in instead?
And more peanut butter is always the answer!
Thank you for the tip, i was worried about going way over on fat though, I already am right at the goal or over it as it is. Plain Greek yoghurt is just disgusting to me, lol only way I can stomach it is if I add honey but that’s not very GD friendly unfortunately. I swear I’m not usually this picky it’s been magnified by having a baby on board. 😬
If you're reducing your carbs then you need to increase another macro. Eating more fat is easier than eating loads more protein once you hit your minimum protein amount.
I think I’ve done that but wondering if I’ve done it right, I’ve adjusted my goals to be 40%carb, 30%fat, 30% protein. I’m averaging 35%carb, 40% fat, 25%protein and it really feels like a struggle. Should I adjust my goals instead of my diet? I’m all for that solution lol.0 -
esharpmajor wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »esharpmajor wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Swap skimmed milk for full fat.
If you don't like smoothie why not just eat some Greek yoghurt with fruit in instead?
And more peanut butter is always the answer!
Thank you for the tip, i was worried about going way over on fat though, I already am right at the goal or over it as it is. Plain Greek yoghurt is just disgusting to me, lol only way I can stomach it is if I add honey but that’s not very GD friendly unfortunately. I swear I’m not usually this picky it’s been magnified by having a baby on board. 😬
If you're reducing your carbs then you need to increase another macro. Eating more fat is easier than eating loads more protein once you hit your minimum protein amount.
I think I’ve done that but wondering if I’ve done it right, I’ve adjusted my goals to be 40%carb, 30%fat, 30% protein. I’m averaging 35%carb, 40% fat, 25%protein and it really feels like a struggle. Should I adjust my goals instead of my diet? I’m all for that solution lol.
What did your doctor say about how many carbs you should be eating?1 -
TavistockToad wrote: »esharpmajor wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »esharpmajor wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Swap skimmed milk for full fat.
If you don't like smoothie why not just eat some Greek yoghurt with fruit in instead?
And more peanut butter is always the answer!
Thank you for the tip, i was worried about going way over on fat though, I already am right at the goal or over it as it is. Plain Greek yoghurt is just disgusting to me, lol only way I can stomach it is if I add honey but that’s not very GD friendly unfortunately. I swear I’m not usually this picky it’s been magnified by having a baby on board. 😬
If you're reducing your carbs then you need to increase another macro. Eating more fat is easier than eating loads more protein once you hit your minimum protein amount.
I think I’ve done that but wondering if I’ve done it right, I’ve adjusted my goals to be 40%carb, 30%fat, 30% protein. I’m averaging 35%carb, 40% fat, 25%protein and it really feels like a struggle. Should I adjust my goals instead of my diet? I’m all for that solution lol.
What did your doctor say about how many carbs you should be eating?
My doc has been super useless to be honest, she doesn’t seem to know much about nutrition, just said to “eat more”. Actual quote “just try putting butter on everything!” She seems like one of these “you’re pregnant just eat everything!” Types, but then she handed me a GD diagnosis and told me to do the research myself... it’s been like learning a new language trying to figure out how to eat healthy. I have an appointment with a GD nutrition expert on Friday, but it’s like a big group seminar thing so I doubt I’ll get much specific advice.
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How about fatty foods instead of (in addition to) protein? I'm currently pregnant, I know the struggles of protein cuz ick. I usually love meat and now it's like... no thanks! Fat has 9 cals per gram opposed to 4 cals per gram in protein so that's why I suggest it. It sounds like at least maintaining your weight (or ideally gaining) while controlling GD is the main goal - so don't worry about being "over" your fat macro...
Can you get a referral to a registered dietician who can help you?
How would the following foods fit in with your diet? I don't have GD, so please forgive if some of these are not possible.
1) Avocado
2) Oil and vinegar on salad
3) Lentils/quinoa (are net carbs an ACTUAL thing?)
4) Bacon (I guess that's meat...)
5) Heavy cream based soups
6) Plain high fat yogurt? Is ick to me, but maybe not to you?
7) salsa and full fat sour cream on a salad or as a dressing for chicken/turkey/taco meat (dark meat)?
8) Cheese!
9) Cook your veggies in oil (roast vs raw) or with sauces or something - could add butter lol
10) Whole or at least 2% milk instead of skim...
11) Up the number of times you have red meat instead of chicken or fish. For fish, try to do salmon as it has a bit more fat (bonus, salmon fat is super good for baby's brain) - again add butter and oil sauces to fish.
12) More nuts, but I'm not sure if those are too carb heavy?
Definitely don't be worried about being over on fat - it's not forever! Carbs are the thing to watch with GD, and pregnancy is stressful enough without watching every single macro. Being over on fat, especially so called healthy fats, is not going to hurt you. And yeah, I don't think it would likely be harmful to do a 20% Protein, 25% carb, and 50% fat ratio. Though I'm not sure what the risks for gallbladders are...1 -
Add in 1 avocado into your diet once a day. Add in a TBLSP of Olive Oil or another healthy oil per day. Add in some peanut butter into your smoothy once a day. All of this will easily add more calories to your diet.1
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During my twin pregnancy full fat dairy, avocado, and for some reason blue cheese anything were life savers.1
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happytree923 wrote: »How much time have you been eating this way? If you increased your fiber intake by a lot very quickly your stomach can be unhappy for a while. Maybe things like eggs and yogurt would be better in the morning than high fiber cereal while you adjust. In any case, you have a lot of special considerations so going to a dietician would be a good idea if that is an option for you.
Been about 7 months now, I think I was sorta used to fibre in the mornings anyway, I always had something similar before jut not quiiiite as high fibre. A dietician would be so nice but I don’t think they are covered by my insurance. 😕0 -
And scrambled eggs and toast...0
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Hmm from these tips I’m gathering I don’t need to be so worried about having high fat intake? I’m all for eating more cheese to make up the cal deficit! I think I’ve been nervous cuz I was raised on the fat=bad mantra of the 90s/2000s. Also wanting to specifically ask if I can get a referral to a dietician. I know private ones aren’t covered by my extended medical but if I get a referral it’s likely covered by the gov (yay Canada) I hadn’t considered being able to be referred to one directly. Certainly worth asking!3
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esharpmajor wrote: »Hmm from these tips I’m gathering I don’t need to be so worried about having high fat intake? I’m all for eating more cheese to make up the cal deficit! I think I’ve been nervous cuz I was raised on the fat=bad mantra of the 90s/2000s. Also wanting to specifically ask if I can get a referral to a dietician. I know private ones aren’t covered by my extended medical but if I get a referral it’s likely covered by the gov (yay Canada) I hadn’t considered being able to be referred to one directly. Certainly worth asking!
Try swapping your cereal to something more calorific, and the highest calorie bread you can find.1 -
I had GD, and unless your doctor tells you otherwise, you shouldn't be concerned with your fat intake. If you need to gain weight and are already reducing a macro like carbohydrates, you need to replace those calories from somewhere. Good fats like avocados and nut butters are the fastest way to do it. FAT does not influence your blood sugar!2
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esharpmajor wrote: »Hmm from these tips I’m gathering I don’t need to be so worried about having high fat intake? I’m all for eating more cheese to make up the cal deficit! I think I’ve been nervous cuz I was raised on the fat=bad mantra of the 90s/2000s. Also wanting to specifically ask if I can get a referral to a dietician. I know private ones aren’t covered by my extended medical but if I get a referral it’s likely covered by the gov (yay Canada) I hadn’t considered being able to be referred to one directly. Certainly worth asking!
just be careful about what cheeses you eat while pregnant some cheeses are a no no due to listeria concerns -http://americanpregnancy.org/pregnancy-complications/listeria/1 -
esharpmajor wrote: »Hmm from these tips I’m gathering I don’t need to be so worried about having high fat intake? I’m all for eating more cheese to make up the cal deficit! I think I’ve been nervous cuz I was raised on the fat=bad mantra of the 90s/2000s. Also wanting to specifically ask if I can get a referral to a dietician. I know private ones aren’t covered by my extended medical but if I get a referral it’s likely covered by the gov (yay Canada) I hadn’t considered being able to be referred to one directly. Certainly worth asking!
Yes - I'm also in Canada - and likely your care provider can give a referral (and if they can't maybe one at a walk-in clinic can). You can call your insurance company to see if that would then be covered. Or if it's covered by your provincial health plan if you have a referral. You might also be able to call your provincial health insurance provider directly to ask.
Also for cheese, during my last pregnancy, I actually CALLED Beatrice (lol) to ask if their cottage cheese was pasteurized. It seems that for all but the most specialty cheese (sold in delis and in-house-made stuff) cheese must be made from pasteurized milk in Canada. You can check the ingredients, a lot say pasteurized milk. If they don't you can totally call their number and they can tell you. They aren't required to list if it's pasteurized since it's assumed it would be. So if you're buying No Name, Beatrice, Foremost, etc brands, even soft cheeses are pasteurized and safe for the preggo ladies
If in doubt, stick with hard cheeses. And... I don't think there is any way to make blue cheese safe.
Random nosy comment. Not trying to police you, you do you. But I noticed you're eating deli meat - which is also on the list of no-no for possible listeria contamination (same reason as soft cheese). I know some women don't worry about it. Curious if you've been frying it? Likewise any cheese you cook will be safe as the cooking will kill the bacteria (so if the soft cheese is on pizza for example). We are having a bit of a food poisoning scare in my house at the moment so it's on the top of my mind (though it seems it's just my husband, but I want my midwife to check me for listeriosis during my next blood draw just in case since that can be so dangerous).2 -
I'd eat way more eggs and lean pork. That's just me. Peanut butter, yep.1
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I highly reccomend the GD forums on baby center. Your dr gave you a diagnosis, so they have you testing your blood sugars? Is there any monitoring, are you on insulin and have they given you a carb allowance? If none of this is in place this seems extremely irresponsible! Are you having extra growth scans, have they spoken to you about possible complications or the possibility of needing to induce early or anything? I've just been through a gd pregnancy, and have been left pre diabetic now. I'm more than happy to chat through things with you by PM if you want 😊2
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XxAngry_Pixi wrote: »I highly reccomend the GD forums on baby center. Your dr gave you a diagnosis, so they have you testing your blood sugars? Is there any monitoring, are you on insulin and have they given you a carb allowance? If none of this is in place this seems extremely irresponsible! Are you having extra growth scans, have they spoken to you about possible complications or the possibility of needing to induce early or anything? I've just been through a gd pregnancy, and have been left pre diabetic now. I'm more than happy to chat through things with you by PM if you want 😊
Thank you for your advice, I’ve actually been really frustrated with the care I’ve received so far. My doc didn’t even have me take the first hour long glucose test, waited waaay late to have me take the two hour so I’ve only just found out and no monitoring in place yet. First appointment to address that is on Friday and it’s some weird group meeting. I sincerely hope they give me a monitor cuz I have no idea what I’m doing. No growth scans or ultrasounds since week 20 when we did the detailed ultrasound.
I don’t know why my ob waited so long to order the test because I am 5’10, 245, so “obese”. I brought this up with her and she said I “don’t look obese”...like how is that even relevant? Why not just be safe? Idk. Sometimes I just want to scream at how cavalier everyone is, I’m a FTM with no living female relatives (mum died last week after a long illness and she was never pregnant -in adopted- so I wasn’t able to get advice from her before she passed 😣) so you’d think they’d pay a little extra attention and try to explain *kitten* to me? Nope. I feel so clueless and in the dark. Blah. Sorry for venting.
ETA: it’s really just dumb luck that I’d cut out refined carbs and sugar for the health benefit when I first found out I was preggers, so it shouldn’t be tooooo much of a shift now that I’ve been diagnosed, and hopefully haven’t done much harm.8 -
Hi - update. I texted a friend and she had GD and a referral to a reg. dietician. She didn't pay anything, MB Health covered it
... and... depending on your comfort levels... maybe visit your GP and see if they can refer you to a different OB... GD definitely should have been checked with the 1 hour test at week 28 (mine is next week) and monitoring set in place right away)... and possibly checked at week 16 if there was a strong suspicion before that.
Though I know OBs can be a bit bad for not giving full explanations since their appointment times are so short
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Hi - update. I texted a friend and she had GD and a referral to a reg. dietician. She didn't pay anything, MB Health covered it
... and... depending on your comfort levels... maybe visit your GP and see if they can refer you to a different OB...
Wonderful, thank you! I will for sure be looking into that. With only a month or so to go I think I have to stick with my current OB despite her flakiness. I may ask at the prenatal if I can see one of heir other doctors but should stay at the same clinic I think.
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esharpmajor wrote: »Hmm from these tips I’m gathering I don’t need to be so worried about having high fat intake? I’m all for eating more cheese to make up the cal deficit! I think I’ve been nervous cuz I was raised on the fat=bad mantra of the 90s/2000s. Also wanting to specifically ask if I can get a referral to a dietician. I know private ones aren’t covered by my extended medical but if I get a referral it’s likely covered by the gov (yay Canada) I hadn’t considered being able to be referred to one directly. Certainly worth asking!
Yes - I'm also in Canada - and likely your care provider can give a referral (and if they can't maybe one at a walk-in clinic can). You can call your insurance company to see if that would then be covered. Or if it's covered by your provincial health plan if you have a referral. You might also be able to call your provincial health insurance provider directly to ask.
Also for cheese, during my last pregnancy, I actually CALLED Beatrice (lol) to ask if their cottage cheese was pasteurized. It seems that for all but the most specialty cheese (sold in delis and in-house-made stuff) cheese must be made from pasteurized milk in Canada. You can check the ingredients, a lot say pasteurized milk. If they don't you can totally call their number and they can tell you. They aren't required to list if it's pasteurized since it's assumed it would be. So if you're buying No Name, Beatrice, Foremost, etc brands, even soft cheeses are pasteurized and safe for the preggo ladies If in doubt, stick with hard cheeses. And... I don't think there is any way to make blue cheese safe.
Random nosy comment. Not trying to police you, you do you. But I noticed you're eating deli meat - which is also on the list of no-no for possible listeria contamination (same reason as soft cheese). I know some women don't worry about it. Curious if you've been frying it? Likewise any cheese you cook will be safe as the cooking will kill the bacteria (so if the soft cheese is on pizza for example). We are having a bit of a food poisoning scare in my house at the moment so it's on the top of my mind (though it seems it's just my husband, but I want my midwife to check me for listeriosis during my next blood draw just in case since that can be so dangerous).
Ah crap I didn’t even know about deli meat being a danger. Thank you for telling me.0 -
esharpmajor wrote: »esharpmajor wrote: »Hmm from these tips I’m gathering I don’t need to be so worried about having high fat intake? I’m all for eating more cheese to make up the cal deficit! I think I’ve been nervous cuz I was raised on the fat=bad mantra of the 90s/2000s. Also wanting to specifically ask if I can get a referral to a dietician. I know private ones aren’t covered by my extended medical but if I get a referral it’s likely covered by the gov (yay Canada) I hadn’t considered being able to be referred to one directly. Certainly worth asking!
Yes - I'm also in Canada - and likely your care provider can give a referral (and if they can't maybe one at a walk-in clinic can). You can call your insurance company to see if that would then be covered. Or if it's covered by your provincial health plan if you have a referral. You might also be able to call your provincial health insurance provider directly to ask.
Also for cheese, during my last pregnancy, I actually CALLED Beatrice (lol) to ask if their cottage cheese was pasteurized. It seems that for all but the most specialty cheese (sold in delis and in-house-made stuff) cheese must be made from pasteurized milk in Canada. You can check the ingredients, a lot say pasteurized milk. If they don't you can totally call their number and they can tell you. They aren't required to list if it's pasteurized since it's assumed it would be. So if you're buying No Name, Beatrice, Foremost, etc brands, even soft cheeses are pasteurized and safe for the preggo ladies If in doubt, stick with hard cheeses. And... I don't think there is any way to make blue cheese safe.
Random nosy comment. Not trying to police you, you do you. But I noticed you're eating deli meat - which is also on the list of no-no for possible listeria contamination (same reason as soft cheese). I know some women don't worry about it. Curious if you've been frying it? Likewise any cheese you cook will be safe as the cooking will kill the bacteria (so if the soft cheese is on pizza for example). We are having a bit of a food poisoning scare in my house at the moment so it's on the top of my mind (though it seems it's just my husband, but I want my midwife to check me for listeriosis during my next blood draw just in case since that can be so dangerous).
Ah crap I didn’t even know about deli meat being a danger. Thank you for telling me.
No problem! There are a few weird ones on the list. Including pre-chopped veggies/fruits and beansprouts. The risk is higher in 3rd trimester (our immune systems are at the lowest then), and if you're fine now, don't worry about what you ate in the past as it was clearly fine (it's a risk, not a certainty). Just something to watch now But yeah, if you fry the deli meat to steaming its a non-issue.
Also, if you're interested in joining some pregnancy related MFP groups with active members, you might like having a forum for people going through similar things. Here are some links:
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/1903-fit-fabulous-pregnant
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/639-post-partum-pack
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/111647-planning-for-pregnancy (I started this one lol, but it's also the smallest group)1 -
esharpmajor wrote: »esharpmajor wrote: »Hmm from these tips I’m gathering I don’t need to be so worried about having high fat intake? I’m all for eating more cheese to make up the cal deficit! I think I’ve been nervous cuz I was raised on the fat=bad mantra of the 90s/2000s. Also wanting to specifically ask if I can get a referral to a dietician. I know private ones aren’t covered by my extended medical but if I get a referral it’s likely covered by the gov (yay Canada) I hadn’t considered being able to be referred to one directly. Certainly worth asking!
Yes - I'm also in Canada - and likely your care provider can give a referral (and if they can't maybe one at a walk-in clinic can). You can call your insurance company to see if that would then be covered. Or if it's covered by your provincial health plan if you have a referral. You might also be able to call your provincial health insurance provider directly to ask.
Also for cheese, during my last pregnancy, I actually CALLED Beatrice (lol) to ask if their cottage cheese was pasteurized. It seems that for all but the most specialty cheese (sold in delis and in-house-made stuff) cheese must be made from pasteurized milk in Canada. You can check the ingredients, a lot say pasteurized milk. If they don't you can totally call their number and they can tell you. They aren't required to list if it's pasteurized since it's assumed it would be. So if you're buying No Name, Beatrice, Foremost, etc brands, even soft cheeses are pasteurized and safe for the preggo ladies If in doubt, stick with hard cheeses. And... I don't think there is any way to make blue cheese safe.
Random nosy comment. Not trying to police you, you do you. But I noticed you're eating deli meat - which is also on the list of no-no for possible listeria contamination (same reason as soft cheese). I know some women don't worry about it. Curious if you've been frying it? Likewise any cheese you cook will be safe as the cooking will kill the bacteria (so if the soft cheese is on pizza for example). We are having a bit of a food poisoning scare in my house at the moment so it's on the top of my mind (though it seems it's just my husband, but I want my midwife to check me for listeriosis during my next blood draw just in case since that can be so dangerous).
Ah crap I didn’t even know about deli meat being a danger. Thank you for telling me.
No problem! There are a few weird ones on the list. Including pre-chopped veggies/fruits and beansprouts. The risk is higher in 3rd trimester (our immune systems are at the lowest then), and if you're fine now, don't worry about what you ate in the past as it was clearly fine. Just something to watch now But yeah, if you fry the deli meat to steaming its a non-issue.
Good to know! 💕0
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