Counting macros vs calories for weight loss; is one better?
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Is it better to count macros to lose weight, or to count my calories? I dont want to become overly obsessive with meeting every perfect macro, but it seems to have a lot of benefits vs calorie counting.
ive been doing calorie counting and it seems to work, but i also tried macros and felt indifferent- seeing that the scale barely moved.
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if i go over lets say 10 carbs or protein etc, but i stay within my calorie range, will it still help me lose the weight fine or does it help to follow each macro? Hope this makes sense!
ive been doing calorie counting and it seems to work, but i also tried macros and felt indifferent- seeing that the scale barely moved.
and
if i go over lets say 10 carbs or protein etc, but i stay within my calorie range, will it still help me lose the weight fine or does it help to follow each macro? Hope this makes sense!
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Is it better to count macros to lose weight, or to count my calories? I dont want to become overly obsessive with meeting every perfect macro, but it seems to have a lot of benefits vs calorie counting.
ive been doing calorie counting and it seems to work, but i also tried macros and felt indifferent- seeing that the scale barely moved.
and
if i go over lets say 10 carbs or protein etc, but i stay within my calorie range, will it still help me lose the weight fine or does it help to follow each macro? Hope this makes sense!
In my opinion, counting calories is less restrictive. Trying to balance my macros every day would drive me crazy! I have a protein, fat and fiber minimum, and once I've hit those, I let the rest fall where they may within my calorie limits. That gives me plenty of flexibility to fit different meals with varying macros into my diet without stressing that I ate too much of one and not enough of another.5 -
Macros don't matter for weight loss, it's all calories. Some people stick to certain macros for other reasons (protein to help build muscle, etc.), but for weight it's CICO (calories in, calories out).15
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Is it better to count macros to lose weight, or to count my calories? I dont want to become overly obsessive with meeting every perfect macro, but it seems to have a lot of benefits vs calorie counting.
ive been doing calorie counting and it seems to work, but i also tried macros and felt indifferent- seeing that the scale barely moved.
and
if i go over lets say 10 carbs or protein etc, but i stay within my calorie range, will it still help me lose the weight fine or does it help to follow each macro? Hope this makes sense!
In my opinion, counting calories is less restrictive. Trying to balance my macros every day would drive me crazy! I have a protein, fat and fiber minimum, and once I've hit those, I let the rest fall where they may within my calorie limits. That gives me plenty of flexibility to fit different meals with varying macros into my diet without stressing that I ate too much of one and not enough of another.
This ^^^. I rarely meet my macros exactly and it has not prevented me from losing or maintaining. Making sure I meet my minimums for proteins and fats is my biggest concern with macros.5 -
Kathryn247 wrote: »Macros don't matter for weight loss, it's all calories. Some people stick to certain macros for other reasons (protein to help build muscle, etc.), but for weight it's CICO (calories in, calories out).
ahh but if you count macros you are in a sense counting calories too.4 -
Calories are pretty much all that matters for weight loss, except that food choices can make a difference in satiation, energy level, and happiness, so make reduced calories harder or easier to sustain.
Nutrition is also important, though, for health. The basis of good nutrition is getting the overall right combinations of macronutrients and micronutrients the majority of the time. In this regard, close is good enough - a little over some days, a little under others, with respect to important nutrients . . . that's OK. It doesn't have to be perfect in every way every day. Same thing with calories: A little over, a little under, trying to hit your goal on average, the majority of days and on average - that's fine.
If your goals include both weight management and health - as most people's do - then both calories and macros matter.
Here's the thing: Protein and carbs each have approximately 4 calories per gram. Fats have about 9 calories per gram. Alcohol has about 7 calories per gram. Therefore, when you count macros, you're effectively counting calories.
Or, when you count calories but use your macronutrient goals as a guide to getting good nutrition, you're effectively counting macros.
Counting one is pretty much equivalent to counting the other, if nutrition/health seems like a good plan in addition to weight management. So, do what's easy. With MFP structured the way it is, it's probably simplest to count calories and watch macros . . . but remember, close is fine, for either or both.
Also, on the nutritional front, there's a minimum amount of protein and fats we need to thrive, but carbs are more optional. (Alcohol, obviously, is completely useless nutritionally, but people sometimes enjoy some, so we have to count it, too. ). Some people find they need carbs (often complex carbs) in order to feel full (but others get satiation more from protein, fats, or volume, or some combination). Some people find they need a certain amount of carbs or their energy level tanks, but that's not true for all. Some people find that if they eat carbs, they just crave more carbs more often, so they do better eating lower carbs. A few medical conditions benefit from a lower carb diet, which is relevant if you have one of those. Other than that kind of stuff, carb level is purely preference. But a certain minimum amount of protein and fats will be necessary for all healthy people.
Beyond the macros, micronutrients are also important: Vitamins, minerals, antioxidants, etc. Some people count those (MFP doesn't do this very comprehensively.) Personally, I just strive to eat a bunch of varied, colorful fruits and veggies every day, and call it good.
Calories for weight management + balanced eating for good nutrition + exercise for fitness = best odds of continuing long-term good health.
Best wishes!
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counting macros is most optimal and you can track your calories by doing so. calories obviously determine weight, but macros can do both and are a good way to ensure you're eating adequate essential macronutrients in your diet4
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Calories are the only thing that counts for weight loss, but I do track my macros because a higher protein, moderate fat, low carb approach helps me to personally, meet my goals.1
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »Kathryn247 wrote: »Macros don't matter for weight loss, it's all calories. Some people stick to certain macros for other reasons (protein to help build muscle, etc.), but for weight it's CICO (calories in, calories out).
ahh but if you count macros you are in a sense counting calories too.
Well, yes, but it's a bit like counting your one dollar bills, fives, tens, twenties, quarters, nickels, dimes, and pennies separately if all you're worried about is whether you have enough cash to pay for the groceries in your cart.10 -
Is it better to count macros to lose weight, or to count my calories? I dont want to become overly obsessive with meeting every perfect macro, but it seems to have a lot of benefits vs calorie counting.
ive been doing calorie counting and it seems to work, but i also tried macros and felt indifferent- seeing that the scale barely moved.
and
if i go over lets say 10 carbs or protein etc, but i stay within my calorie range, will it still help me lose the weight fine or does it help to follow each macro? Hope this makes sense!
I do both. I count my calories to know exactly how much I am eating and I count my macros to make sure I have the right mix for my goals.1 -
Is it better to count macros to lose weight, or to count my calories? I dont want to become overly obsessive with meeting every perfect macro, but it seems to have a lot of benefits vs calorie counting.
ive been doing calorie counting and it seems to work, but i also tried macros and felt indifferent- seeing that the scale barely moved.
and
if i go over lets say 10 carbs or protein etc, but i stay within my calorie range, will it still help me lose the weight fine or does it help to follow each macro? Hope this makes sense!
Counting macros is essentially just micro-managing where your calories are coming from.
Some people like that level of detail. It’s really just a matter of preference.
The only macro I pay attention to is protein. Why? Well if I don’t, I tend not to get enough and I’ve noticed for me that not getting enough protein has consequences. I am more likely to avoid overeating if I get enough protein and I also seem to experience DOMS that last longer (and honestly feel worse) than I do when I get enough protein. Carbs and fat just seem to fall into place without much focus. That’s just me though.
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I found aiming for a rough macro goal (very low carb and moderate protein) makes it easier for me to stay at a certain calorie level. I don't count calories anymore, or macros, but I know that I am eating near my macro goals so calories seem to take care of themselves.
I like not counting. The counting and logging got old very quick for me, and even when I did count calories (once I set my macros) I very loosely followed my calorie levels.
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lynn_glenmont wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »Kathryn247 wrote: »Macros don't matter for weight loss, it's all calories. Some people stick to certain macros for other reasons (protein to help build muscle, etc.), but for weight it's CICO (calories in, calories out).
ahh but if you count macros you are in a sense counting calories too.
Well, yes, but it's a bit like counting your one dollar bills, fives, tens, twenties, quarters, nickels, dimes, and pennies separately if all you're worried about is whether you have enough cash to pay for the groceries in your cart.
True. If cash (the number on the scale) is all you're focused on, then calories is all you need to think about. If you have other goals: nutrients, maintaining muscle etc., managing hunger, then macros/micros might be more important...0 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »Kathryn247 wrote: »Macros don't matter for weight loss, it's all calories. Some people stick to certain macros for other reasons (protein to help build muscle, etc.), but for weight it's CICO (calories in, calories out).
ahh but if you count macros you are in a sense counting calories too.
True, but that would be like counting the length of someones feet, legs, torso and head to find out how tall they are.
Sure it's great if there's a reason to do it, like you're making them some shoes a suit and a hat but if you just want to see how tall they are why not just keep it simple and measure their height!1 -
Calories are big picture.
Macros are detail.lynn_glenmont wrote: »Well, yes, but it's a bit like counting your one dollar bills, fives, tens, twenties, quarters, nickels, dimes, and pennies separately if all you're worried about is whether you have enough cash to pay for the groceries in your cart.
This was a perfect analogy.
Macro percentages and levels matter for nutrition, satiety, and performance and vary on an individual level.
The most important ones to keep an eye on are protein and fat, because they have minimum requirements that need to be met.
Dieters need more protein than average folks, especially if exercising. .6 - .8 grams per pound of ideal body weight is the minimal amount recommended, but more is fine.
Fat is essential for hormonal regulation. Minimal requirements are .35 - .45 grams per pound of ideal body weight.
Any remaining calories can be used for carbs or additional protein and/or fat.
You will need to experiment to find the right balance of macros for you.4 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »Kathryn247 wrote: »Macros don't matter for weight loss, it's all calories. Some people stick to certain macros for other reasons (protein to help build muscle, etc.), but for weight it's CICO (calories in, calories out).
ahh but if you count macros you are in a sense counting calories too.
Well, yes, but it's a bit like counting your one dollar bills, fives, tens, twenties, quarters, nickels, dimes, and pennies separately if all you're worried about is whether you have enough cash to pay for the groceries in your cart.
But there are times where you need the one dollar bills, and coins just wouldn't do. :devil:
I focus on calories and getting a minimum of protein. I've noticed I've been under on my fats for a bit so I'm adjusting to cover those. This will come out of carbs (or alcohol).1 -
Tacklewasher wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »Kathryn247 wrote: »Macros don't matter for weight loss, it's all calories. Some people stick to certain macros for other reasons (protein to help build muscle, etc.), but for weight it's CICO (calories in, calories out).
ahh but if you count macros you are in a sense counting calories too.
Well, yes, but it's a bit like counting your one dollar bills, fives, tens, twenties, quarters, nickels, dimes, and pennies separately if all you're worried about is whether you have enough cash to pay for the groceries in your cart.
But there are times where you need the one dollar bills, and coins just wouldn't do. :devil:
I focus on calories and getting a minimum of protein. I've noticed I've been under on my fats for a bit so I'm adjusting to cover those. This will come out of carbs (or alcohol).
You'll need those fats with the fiber, for best results.
(Note to 3rd parties: Secret cross-thread reference.)1 -
It's best to count both in order to get a fully rounded idea of what you're eating.
For example, if you were counting just calories then you won't know where they are coming from and you could end up taking in most of your calories from fats or sugars without realising. This, even if it equates to the same amount of overall cals, is obviously not going to be as beneficial as if your diet was primarily that of proteins and veggies!
If you are looking not only to lose weight but time up and gain muscle too then you definetly should look into macros as well as this can dramatically alter the results you see!
Hope this helps, remember, even just counting one is a step in the right direction.🙂0 -
Tacklewasher wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »Kathryn247 wrote: »Macros don't matter for weight loss, it's all calories. Some people stick to certain macros for other reasons (protein to help build muscle, etc.), but for weight it's CICO (calories in, calories out).
ahh but if you count macros you are in a sense counting calories too.
Well, yes, but it's a bit like counting your one dollar bills, fives, tens, twenties, quarters, nickels, dimes, and pennies separately if all you're worried about is whether you have enough cash to pay for the groceries in your cart.
But there are times where you need the one dollar bills, and coins just wouldn't do. :devil:
I focus on calories and getting a minimum of protein. I've noticed I've been under on my fats for a bit so I'm adjusting to cover those. This will come out of carbs (or alcohol).
Yes, but the times you need the ones (a specific macro) are not the general case of what is best for weight loss (see first sentence of OP), which, in the analogy, is just making sure you have the right amount of money, regardless of the denomination of the bills or coins.
I focus on calories and hitting minima for protein and fiber (since the occasions I don't hit the minimum for fat are only slightly more frequent than a blue moon, I don't see a need for me to worry about that).0 -
Calories are king for weight loss/gain.
Macros matter for nutrition and fitness goals1 -
Count whichever you prefer. For weight loss, the bottom line is as long as your calories in are fewer than your calories out, you'll lose weight.1
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