I Suck At Running
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did you run? great
pace is so subjective. i am jealous of the 9min/milers but other people are jealous of my 12:30min/trail miles.
as was mentioned: comparison is the thief of joy
Add another jealous onlooker for that trail pace. I am running about 11 minute miles at 5-6 miles right now but the trail I run I'm never faster than about 14:30.
And OP, we all start somewhere and find a groove that keeps us running. There's someone in my friends feed who set some ridiculous goals for a month of running and was just crazy upbeat and pushing themselves to get to what i guess she though some globally impressive standard - lo and behold, she sidelined herself for months with an overuse injury. The aim isn't to pop out numbers that impress (I'm a fan of the slow lumbering run that keeps on keeping on) but to engage in an activity that benefits you for today and tomorrow and all the days after.7 -
Hmm most of your daily posts are in the 12-15 minute pace. I think you power walk faster than 16 don’t you? Most people can’t do that. Considering that you were almost dead a couple years ago, there is no reason to feel bad about your running! Just keep having fun old dude! 🤗7
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Don't worry about it! Just enjoy it and don't bother about pace unless you're training for an event and want a time. I used to be fast but now I'm quite happy pottering along at 10/11 min miles, enjoying the scenery, listening to music and chilling.2
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I thought I sucked at running.
Then I tried swimming.15 -
If you ran that pace in Pittsburgh this year at the 5K (the day before the marathon) you would have beaten 174 other runners. I guess they must really suck, right?6
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Hmm most of your daily posts are in the 12-15 minute pace. I think you power walk faster than 16 don’t you? Most people can’t do that. Considering that you were almost dead a couple years ago, there is no reason to feel bad about your running! Just keep having fun old dude! 🤗
Yeah, i get faster paces when i do power walk/run intervals. I run faster on the run interval and i can power walk at a 14:00 to 15:00 pace.
I have been trying to do longer runs at a pace that i can hold a broken conversation in (perceived exertion) as recommended by people. For me it felt like it was right in the middle of zone 3, so i ran at a pace to maintain that heart rate and feeling.
That's why it felt pathetic, because i can power walk way faster than that.
I can do a 10:00 mile just running, but can't go much longer than a mile at that pace.1 -
I thought I sucked at running.
Then I tried swimming.
This just reminded me of back when i was in the army. Back then i could run 2 miles in 14 minutes. We had to swim one time to qualify for the German Fitness medal. We had to swim 200 meters and i fizzled out shortly after 100 meters. I made it the next year though because i paced myself. But it still took everything out of me.0 -
collectingblues wrote: »For those who could not see: 3.85 miles at a 16:48 miles pace, 1:04 total time average heart rate 122. Old Dude; how does that compare with previous runs? Is this a start or a continuation? The only person with whom you should compare is your previous self. There is always someone faster, with more endurance, than you. Unless it is your livelihood to "win", progress is the goal. What are your goals? You did beat everyone who stayed on the couch. Did you enjoy the run?
This. Comparing pace to previous pace is the best way to evaluate yourself -- *as long* as you also evaluate the other factors. (Weather, illness, hills, generally feeling of crankiness, etc.)
Or being older and fatter.
My last 5k race was 6 minutes slower than my PR.6 -
You CAN run, and you DO run, and you can learn to run faster. That's not a fail or a suck!
I (physically) cannot do more than a slow jog. No matter how fit I am, that is all I will ever be able to do (not a huge loss to me as I never did enjoy running) - but I can't lie, the fact that I CAN'T still bugs me.
Embrace your strengths and work on what you can, and give yourself credit where it's due.6 -
There’s always a faster runner than all of us! Be the best runner you can be and compare you to yourself. It will get faster2
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For those who could not see: 3.85 miles at a 16:48 miles pace, 1:04 total time average heart rate 122. Old Dude; how does that compare with previous runs? Is this a start or a continuation? The only person with whom you should compare is your previous self. There is always someone faster, with more endurance, than you. Unless it is your livelihood to "win", progress is the goal. What are your goals? You did beat everyone who stayed on the couch. Did you enjoy the run?
I have been getting recommendations that most of my runs should be at a pace that i can have a conversation. So i tried that with this run, but had to run ridiculously slow to be at the point that i think i could talk while running. I normally run at a higher intensity that i can only get a few words out at a time, so i can't really compare to that.
Plus it was so much slower than my power walking pace that it made me feel like a sissy...
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Honestly, I think you are way too caught up in things like pace, heart rate and other details that just are not that important to overall health to the point it is stressing you out. Based on your user name, you are not a young guy and not training to compete. So, why stress out over these things.
If you are hoping to get to some elite level of running performance at your age (says a 67 year old guy) that would be unrealistic. Enjoy running and speed walking. Strive to improve and have fun with it. You are improving your health at the level you are doing it. Get your ego out of the way.8 -
@OldAssDude Old a** lady here is impressed. I can hike for miles up hill with a couple thousand feet elevation gain. Can't run a block!3
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Honestly, I think you are way too caught up in things like pace, heart rate and other details that just are not that important to overall health to the point it is stressing you out. Based on your user name, you are not a young guy and not training to compete. So, why stress out over these things.
If you are hoping to get to some elite level of running performance at your age (says a 67 year old guy) that would be unrealistic. Enjoy running and speed walking. Strive to improve and have fun with it. You are improving your health at the level you are doing it. Get your ego out of the way.
Just trying to increase my fitness level is all. I know i will never be at even close to an elite level, but i do want to improve my fitness as much as i can for my age, and make sure i'm doing it right and not wasting my time.
For example, i am getting advice that i should be doing most of my runs at a pace that i can carry on a full conversation at. When i do that, i don't feel like i'm getting a good enough workout to raise my fitness level. I always trained using heart rate cause that's how i was taught back when i was in the army. I try to stay in zone 3/4 most of the time and when doing intervals i try to hit my MHR on the run interval.
I figure if i push my heart and lungs, they will get stronger, and i have gone from barely being able to walk a mile and then having to lay down for an hour and only being able to run for 30 seconds, to being able to power walk over 10 miles at a 14:00 to 15:00 pace and being able to run 5 miles at a slower pace. So i know what i have been doing has to be working.
I am trying to open up to new things and trying to take advice on running at a certain "perceived exertion" at a pace slow enough to be able to carry on a conversation, and i seem to just be having a problem convincing myself that i'm getting a good workout because it feels way to easy compared to how i normally do it. It feels like a recovery workout to me.
I do have fun doing it, and i do it every day (including recovery workouts), but i also like the data, and i don't think there is anything wrong with knowing what my heart rate is while i'm doing it.1 -
OldAssDude wrote: »Honestly, I think you are way too caught up in things like pace, heart rate and other details that just are not that important to overall health to the point it is stressing you out. Based on your user name, you are not a young guy and not training to compete. So, why stress out over these things.
If you are hoping to get to some elite level of running performance at your age (says a 67 year old guy) that would be unrealistic. Enjoy running and speed walking. Strive to improve and have fun with it. You are improving your health at the level you are doing it. Get your ego out of the way.
Just trying to increase my fitness level is all. I know i will never be at even close to an elite level, but i do want to improve my fitness as much as i can for my age, and make sure i'm doing it right and not wasting my time.
For example, i am getting advice that i should be doing most of my runs at a pace that i can carry on a full conversation at. When i do that, i don't feel like i'm getting a good enough workout to raise my fitness level. I always trained using heart rate cause that's how i was taught back when i was in the army. I try to stay in zone 3/4 most of the time and when doing intervals i try to hit my MHR on the run interval.
I figure if i push my heart and lungs, they will get stronger, and i have gone from barely being able to walk a mile and then having to lay down for an hour and only being able to run for 30 seconds, to being able to power walk over 10 miles at a 14:00 to 15:00 pace and being able to run 5 miles at a slower pace. So i know what i have been doing has to be working.
I am trying to open up to new things and trying to take advice on running at a certain "perceived exertion" at a pace slow enough to be able to carry on a conversation, and i seem to just be having a problem convincing myself that i'm getting a good workout because it feels way to easy compared to how i normally do it. It feels like a recovery workout to me.
I do have fun doing it, and i do it every day (including recovery workouts), but i also like the data, and i don't think there is anything wrong with knowing what my heart rate is while i'm doing it.
I thought a load of 'slow' running wouldn't do much...
Then I PBed 4 races this year, so I figure slow running does plenty :drinker:4 -
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You can run and you do run. Don't beat yourself up. I miss running. (My doctor banned me due to a degenerative disc. Every time I try to take it up again, the disc bulges and I am all but bedridden.)3
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Had a much better run today.
power walked the first mile to warm up, ran 3.5 miles, and power walked the last mile to cool down. My average pace this time was 14:28 (a lot better than 16:48), and i ran for longer.
I perceived it as comfortable and being able to speak in short sentences. Breathing was somewhat labored but not full huffing and puffing.
heart rate was: z1: 19%, z2: 13%, z3: 46%, z4: 7%. I used %HRR to set my zones.
I feel a little better about this run.6 -
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OldAssDude wrote: »Today i tried to run at a pace that i could maintain a broken conversation with, and look how pathetic it is...
https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/3148194239
I SUCK AT RUNNING!
No you don't. That's a good pace. We all run at our own pace. Age and fitness play into the equation. I've said the same thing about my running.....but only because I compared myself to others. Now I just run for my own pleasure and I realize that I can't compare myself to others because I only compare myself to those who are better.
Your pace is good. It's you and that's terrific.
Keep running. Enjoy the ability to run. Your pace is as good as any other runner's.
You're doing great.2
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