Anyone with BED and able to lose
flosoup24
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Ive been told by my therapist to stop all diets because of my BED. And yes since I stopped and stopped telling myself what foods were good and bad and restricting I haven't had a binge in a few weeks. However I am now at my heaviest ever. I weighed this morning and lo and behold binged this evening. What can I do? How do I beat this? I want to beat it and lose 7 stone!
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If your goal is weight loss and your therapist has told you to stop all diets, you need to partner with them on this.
If your weight gain is making you want to binge, *let them know*. You'll be able to come up with a plan together.13 -
Ive been told by my therapist to stop all diets because of my BED. And yes since I stopped and stopped telling myself what foods were good and bad and restricting I haven't had a binge in a few weeks. However I am now at my heaviest ever. I weighed this morning and lo and behold binged this evening. What can I do? How do I beat this? I want to beat it and lose 7 stone!
Those are questions for your therapist, no?3 -
I agree with those above that you really need to work with your therapist on this. However, with that said, I have BED, as well as other EDs, and have lost 105lbs. I think the main reason I was successful this time around was I worked with my therapist and focused on my mental health before anything. Once I got my head in a better place we slowly moved into a healthier relationship with food and feeding my body what it needs. After that, we progressed to fitness and now I am where I am today.
Work on your mental health first, if you're not healthy in the mind you will never be successful overall. Our mental health is the most important and once that is in place everything should follow! It won't be easy, you'll have setbacks, but you'll get there!17 -
She won't address the issue of food. She only want to work with my self esteem for now and keeps saying just to eat intuitively
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TavistockToad wrote: »Ive been told by my therapist to stop all diets because of my BED. And yes since I stopped and stopped telling myself what foods were good and bad and restricting I haven't had a binge in a few weeks. However I am now at my heaviest ever. I weighed this morning and lo and behold binged this evening. What can I do? How do I beat this? I want to beat it and lose 7 stone!
Those are questions for your therapist, no?
They are yes but all she tells me is not to diet.1 -
Helkaahaien87 wrote: »I agree with those above that you really need to work with your therapist on this. However, with that said, I have BED, as well as other EDs, and have lost 105lbs. I think the main reason I was successful this time around was I worked with my therapist and focused on my mental health before anything. Once I got my head in a better place we slowly moved into a healthier relationship with food and feeding my body what it needs. After that, we progressed to fitness and now I am where I am today.
Work on your mental health first, if you're not healthy in the mind you will never be successful overall. Our mental health is the most important and once that is in place everything should follow! It won't be easy, you'll have setbacks, but you'll get there!
Its so hard when im growing the wrong way
I also have fibromyalgia, ME and a million other health conditions that I really need to lose weight for2 -
Maybe don’t call it “dieting”? Can you work with your therapist to determine what a healthy weight range would be for you and then tell her you want eat the right amount of calories necessary to maintain a healthy weight by tracking your food jnstake?4
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She won't address the issue of food. She only want to work with my self esteem for now and keeps saying just to eat intuitively
So it seems (to me) like you have two options here. The first is to accept that your therapist has valid reasons for this approach right now, that she's determined that a focus on food/weight/dieting isn't what you need right now for recovery for your BED. If that's the approach, bringing up your frustrations and fears with treatment may be productive.
The second is that this isn't the right fit for you as a therapist. I'm not saying that is the case, but if you find that her approach is making your condition worse and she's not open to discussing her approach and long-term plans with you, you may want to consider if a different therapist -- one who will be more open about what success looks like for your treatment -- would be a better fit.
In either case, the question of how to beat your ED should be something you and your therapist are tackling together, not something you're having to get advice on online because you are frustrated with how she's approaching it.15 -
Instead of a diet that focuses primarily on calorie restriction maybe you should explore a different way of eating. I don't know if it would decrease the desire to binge but the Keto WOE has decreased my appetite in general. Not saying I can eat more calories it just feels different to me. Keto also places my binge type foods off limits like a bag of potato chips, french fries or a box of crackers. This is not medical advice and it would be wise to research and consult with your therapist prior to making big changes.27
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Instead of a diet that focuses primarily on calorie restriction maybe you should explore a different way of eating. I don't know if it would decrease the desire to binge but the Keto WOE has decreased my appetite in general. Not saying I can eat more calories it just feels different to me. Keto also places my binge type foods off limits like a bag of potato chips, french fries or a box of crackers. This is not medical advice and it would be wise to research and consult with your therapist prior to making big changes.
If someone has been told by their therapist to "stop all diets" and part of their BED treatment is to stop labeling foods as "good" and "bad," I think advising keto to them is . . . not great.
OP is specifically focusing on avoiding restriction, so advice for appetite suppression seems really counter-productive.
There's a time and a place to recommend your favorite way of eating and this thread, IMO, isn't it.27 -
janejellyroll wrote: »Instead of a diet that focuses primarily on calorie restriction maybe you should explore a different way of eating. I don't know if it would decrease the desire to binge but the Keto WOE has decreased my appetite in general. Not saying I can eat more calories it just feels different to me. Keto also places my binge type foods off limits like a bag of potato chips, french fries or a box of crackers. This is not medical advice and it would be wise to research and consult with your therapist prior to making big changes.
If someone has been told by their therapist to "stop all diets" and part of their BED treatment is to stop labeling foods as "good" and "bad," I think advising keto to them is . . . not great.
OP is specifically focusing on avoiding restriction, so advice for appetite suppression seems really counter-productive.
There's a time and a place to recommend your favorite way of eating and this thread, IMO, isn't it.
Your opinion is noted. I only suggested exploring it because if the binging is hunger driven it could possibly help. If the therapist or the OP felt it not in the OP best interest by all means don't go any further. It really had nothing to do with "its my favorite", the OP was asking "how do I beat this" "what can I do?" and keto was in my opinion an idea. I am going to drop this unless the OP has a question for me or a comment. To others lets just let this go and not drag this all off topic. My post was just an attempt to help the OP and not a desire to hijack a thread.19 -
BED is a psychological issue, not eating too much because you are hungry.
OP, I would agree with what's already been said - your therapist seems to feel like until you get the mental part down, focusing on the physical part (food and weight) will just make things worse. It might be best to let your therapist know that you are aware you are gaining weight and knowing that is causing you to binge, and see if they have feedback or a different strategy. I'm so sorry you're struggling, hang in there :flowerforyou:13 -
Instead of a diet that focuses primarily on calorie restriction maybe you should explore a different way of eating. I don't know if it would decrease the desire to binge but the Keto WOE has decreased my appetite in general. Not saying I can eat more calories it just feels different to me. Keto also places my binge type foods off limits like a bag of potato chips, french fries or a box of crackers. This is not medical advice and it would be wise to research and consult with your therapist prior to making big changes.
Its the off limits that drives me though I think. That all or nothing blown diet thing and Keto is pretty restrictive2 -
janejellyroll wrote: »She won't address the issue of food. She only want to work with my self esteem for now and keeps saying just to eat intuitively
So it seems (to me) like you have two options here. The first is to accept that your therapist has valid reasons for this approach right now, that she's determined that a focus on food/weight/dieting isn't what you need right now for recovery for your BED. If that's the approach, bringing up your frustrations and fears with treatment may be productive.
The second is that this isn't the right fit for you as a therapist. I'm not saying that is the case, but if you find that her approach is making your condition worse and she's not open to discussing her approach and long-term plans with you, you may want to consider if a different therapist -- one who will be more open about what success looks like for your treatment -- would be a better fit.
In either case, the question of how to beat your ED should be something you and your therapist are tackling together, not something you're having to get advice on online because you are frustrated with how she's approaching it.
I think this is great. I did a little thinking about today and its my head space. I weighed this morning and had a gain this started the spiral and then the binge and in turn searching for advice when really I want an instant cure and thus it continues.4 -
janejellyroll wrote: »Instead of a diet that focuses primarily on calorie restriction maybe you should explore a different way of eating. I don't know if it would decrease the desire to binge but the Keto WOE has decreased my appetite in general. Not saying I can eat more calories it just feels different to me. Keto also places my binge type foods off limits like a bag of potato chips, french fries or a box of crackers. This is not medical advice and it would be wise to research and consult with your therapist prior to making big changes.
If someone has been told by their therapist to "stop all diets" and part of their BED treatment is to stop labeling foods as "good" and "bad," I think advising keto to them is . . . not great.
OP is specifically focusing on avoiding restriction, so advice for appetite suppression seems really counter-productive.
There's a time and a place to recommend your favorite way of eating and this thread, IMO, isn't it.
Your opinion is noted. I only suggested exploring it because if the binging is hunger driven it could possibly help. If the therapist or the OP felt it not in the OP best interest by all means don't go any further. It really had nothing to do with "its my favorite", the OP was asking "how do I beat this" "what can I do?" and keto was in my opinion an idea. I am going to drop this unless the OP has a question for me or a comment. To others lets just let this go and not drag this all off topic. My post was just an attempt to help the OP and not a desire to hijack a thread.
Unfortunately my binge is only sometimes driven by hunger mostly stress and low mood and feelings of not being worthy.5 -
BED is a psychological issue, not eating too much because you are hungry.
OP, I would agree with what's already been said - your therapist seems to feel like until you get the mental part down, focusing on the physical part (food and weight) will just make things worse. It might be best to let your therapist know that you are aware you are gaining weight and knowing that is causing you to binge, and see if they have feedback or a different strategy. I'm so sorry you're struggling, hang in there :flowerforyou:
Thank you for this. She is right I do need to accept me first but its just hard when you feel humongous and its getting worse3 -
janejellyroll wrote: »She won't address the issue of food. She only want to work with my self esteem for now and keeps saying just to eat intuitively
So it seems (to me) like you have two options here. The first is to accept that your therapist has valid reasons for this approach right now, that she's determined that a focus on food/weight/dieting isn't what you need right now for recovery for your BED. If that's the approach, bringing up your frustrations and fears with treatment may be productive.
The second is that this isn't the right fit for you as a therapist. I'm not saying that is the case, but if you find that her approach is making your condition worse and she's not open to discussing her approach and long-term plans with you, you may want to consider if a different therapist -- one who will be more open about what success looks like for your treatment -- would be a better fit.
In either case, the question of how to beat your ED should be something you and your therapist are tackling together, not something you're having to get advice on online because you are frustrated with how she's approaching it.
I think this is great. I did a little thinking about today and its my head space. I weighed this morning and had a gain this started the spiral and then the binge and in turn searching for advice when really I want an instant cure and thus it continues.
I can completely identify. It's so hard for me to be patient with the process. I make a therapy appointment and then get angry because I'm not better yet!
For me, the vicious cycle -- stress makes me want to eat (or restrict), excessive eating (or restriction) causes stress, even dealing with the underlying emotions causes stress. It can get better though! I'm at a point where it isn't part of my daily life anymore, just something that flares up. It's possible. I'm wishing you good luck.
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She won't address the issue of food. She only want to work with my self esteem for now and keeps saying just to eat intuitively
Intuitive eating only works for me if all I have available to eat is higher volume/lower calorie food. It worked fine for me when I was in Costa Rico and yoga retreat centers with a limited array of foods available. But if I am doing the grocery shopping, I intuitively want ice cream and pizza or other hyper-palatable, high calorie, low satiety foods.
Are you two doing any Cognitive Behavioral Therapy?0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »She won't address the issue of food. She only want to work with my self esteem for now and keeps saying just to eat intuitively
So it seems (to me) like you have two options here. The first is to accept that your therapist has valid reasons for this approach right now, that she's determined that a focus on food/weight/dieting isn't what you need right now for recovery for your BED. If that's the approach, bringing up your frustrations and fears with treatment may be productive.
The second is that this isn't the right fit for you as a therapist. I'm not saying that is the case, but if you find that her approach is making your condition worse and she's not open to discussing her approach and long-term plans with you, you may want to consider if a different therapist -- one who will be more open about what success looks like for your treatment -- would be a better fit.
In either case, the question of how to beat your ED should be something you and your therapist are tackling together, not something you're having to get advice on online because you are frustrated with how she's approaching it.
I think this is great. I did a little thinking about today and its my head space. I weighed this morning and had a gain this started the spiral and then the binge and in turn searching for advice when really I want an instant cure and thus it continues.
I can completely identify. It's so hard for me to be patient with the process. I make a therapy appointment and then get angry because I'm not better yet!
For me, the vicious cycle -- stress makes me want to eat (or restrict), excessive eating (or restriction) causes stress, even dealing with the underlying emotions causes stress. It can get better though! I'm at a point where it isn't part of my daily life anymore, just something that flares up. It's possible. I'm wishing you good luck.
Im so glad that you've gotten to that point. I had felt great for 3 weeks yes food choices were made on impulse but no binge and then slap! Back today2 -
kshama2001 wrote: »She won't address the issue of food. She only want to work with my self esteem for now and keeps saying just to eat intuitively
Intuitive eating only works for me if all I have available to eat is higher volume/lower calorie food. It worked fine for me when I was in Costa Rico and yoga retreat centers with a limited array of foods available. But if I am doing the grocery shopping, I intuitively want ice cream and pizza or other hyper-palatable, high calorie, low satiety foods.
Are you two doing any Cognitive Behavioral Therapy?
Lol yes I intuitively want pizza and chocolate. Yes she is doing a little CBT. And voice of reason kinda stuff. I've just had a really bad day tomorrow will be better4 -
No advice on the mental side, but I will suggest you keep low calories density foods on hand. Better to binge on fruit and vegetables than chips and ice cream.4
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I think you know what you need to do. It's hard to lose weight. Period. The ONLY success is in perseverance. it starts with small steps.
Try to exercise (or exercise more). A good start is in a swimming pool. Water walking or water calisthenics are easy on the body and it gets you moving...it can also be a social activity if you do it long enough.
Focus on eating healthy...instead of potato chips switch to hot air popcorn, instead of chocolate have some flavored Greek yogurt with some berries or a banana, have a handful of roasted nuts rather than french fries, replace beef burgers with grilled chicken sandwiches, eat sprouted or whole grain breads/buns rather than white.
Try to remember that even when you eat smaller amounts of "junk food" you will end up craving more and the binge starts. Carbs beget carbs...the more you consume the more you crave. It's a vicious circle.
One of the worst culprits are flavored drinks like soda pop. It's basically just sugar water...same goes for diet soda...the brain thinks it's carbs and triggers the "I want more" response.
Watching what you eat (but not starving yourself) and getting physically active are the keys to better mood and better appearance.
The sooner you start the sooner you'll get to where you want to be.21 -
I think you know what you need to do. It's hard to lose weight. Period. The ONLY success is in perseverance. it starts with small steps.
Try to exercise (or exercise more). A good start is in a swimming pool. Water walking or water calisthenics are easy on the body and it gets you moving...it can also be a social activity if you do it long enough.
Focus on eating healthy...instead of potato chips switch to hot air popcorn, instead of chocolate have some flavored Greek yogurt with some berries or a banana, have a handful of roasted nuts rather than french fries, replace beef burgers with grilled chicken sandwiches, eat sprouted or whole grain breads/buns rather than white.
Try to remember that even when you eat smaller amounts of "junk food" you will end up craving more and the binge starts. Carbs beget carbs...the more you consume the more you crave. It's a vicious circle.
One of the worst culprits are flavored drinks like soda pop. It's basically just sugar water...same goes for diet soda...the brain thinks it's carbs and triggers the "I want more" response.
Watching what you eat (but not starving yourself) and getting physically active are the keys to better mood and better appearance.
The sooner you start the sooner you'll get to where you want to be.
I am very active as I do a martial art. I don't really drink soda just water for me. I think I starve myself then get too hungry. Or eat 1 bad thing and go nuts. Its striking a balance. I do know what to do and it very much is fixing the mental side of thibgs and accepting change is not overnight no matter how much I want it to be2 -
I think you know what you need to do. It's hard to lose weight. Period. The ONLY success is in perseverance. it starts with small steps.
Try to exercise (or exercise more). A good start is in a swimming pool. Water walking or water calisthenics are easy on the body and it gets you moving...it can also be a social activity if you do it long enough.
Focus on eating healthy...instead of potato chips switch to hot air popcorn, instead of chocolate have some flavored Greek yogurt with some berries or a banana, have a handful of roasted nuts rather than french fries, replace beef burgers with grilled chicken sandwiches, eat sprouted or whole grain breads/buns rather than white.
Try to remember that even when you eat smaller amounts of "junk food" you will end up craving more and the binge starts. Carbs beget carbs...the more you consume the more you crave. It's a vicious circle.
One of the worst culprits are flavored drinks like soda pop. It's basically just sugar water...same goes for diet soda...the brain thinks it's carbs and triggers the "I want more" response.
Watching what you eat (but not starving yourself) and getting physically active are the keys to better mood and better appearance.
The sooner you start the sooner you'll get to where you want to be.
I am very active as I do a martial art. I don't really drink soda just water for me. I think I starve myself then get too hungry. Or eat 1 bad thing and go nuts. Its striking a balance. I do know what to do and it very much is fixing the mental side of thibgs and accepting change is not overnight no matter how much I want it to be
This was my line of thinking5 -
I think you know what you need to do. It's hard to lose weight. Period. The ONLY success is in perseverance. it starts with small steps.
Try to exercise (or exercise more). A good start is in a swimming pool. Water walking or water calisthenics are easy on the body and it gets you moving...it can also be a social activity if you do it long enough.
Focus on eating healthy...instead of potato chips switch to hot air popcorn, instead of chocolate have some flavored Greek yogurt with some berries or a banana, have a handful of roasted nuts rather than french fries, replace beef burgers with grilled chicken sandwiches, eat sprouted or whole grain breads/buns rather than white.
Try to remember that even when you eat smaller amounts of "junk food" you will end up craving more and the binge starts. Carbs beget carbs...the more you consume the more you crave. It's a vicious circle.
One of the worst culprits are flavored drinks like soda pop. It's basically just sugar water...same goes for diet soda...the brain thinks it's carbs and triggers the "I want more" response.
Watching what you eat (but not starving yourself) and getting physically active are the keys to better mood and better appearance.
The sooner you start the sooner you'll get to where you want to be.
I am very active as I do a martial art. I don't really drink soda just water for me. I think I starve myself then get too hungry. Or eat 1 bad thing and go nuts. Its striking a balance. I do know what to do and it very much is fixing the mental side of thibgs and accepting change is not overnight no matter how much I want it to be
This was my line of thinking
There are psychological reasons for a person engaging in binge/restrict behavior. It's part of BED.
Eating a restrictive diet won't solve it. Please stop. BED is an eating disorder, and you clearly don't know anything about it.14 -
I think you know what you need to do. It's hard to lose weight. Period. The ONLY success is in perseverance. it starts with small steps.
Try to exercise (or exercise more). A good start is in a swimming pool. Water walking or water calisthenics are easy on the body and it gets you moving...it can also be a social activity if you do it long enough.
Focus on eating healthy...instead of potato chips switch to hot air popcorn, instead of chocolate have some flavored Greek yogurt with some berries or a banana, have a handful of roasted nuts rather than french fries, replace beef burgers with grilled chicken sandwiches, eat sprouted or whole grain breads/buns rather than white.
Try to remember that even when you eat smaller amounts of "junk food" you will end up craving more and the binge starts. Carbs beget carbs...the more you consume the more you crave. It's a vicious circle.
One of the worst culprits are flavored drinks like soda pop. It's basically just sugar water...same goes for diet soda...the brain thinks it's carbs and triggers the "I want more" response.
Watching what you eat (but not starving yourself) and getting physically active are the keys to better mood and better appearance.
The sooner you start the sooner you'll get to where you want to be.
I am very active as I do a martial art. I don't really drink soda just water for me. I think I starve myself then get too hungry. Or eat 1 bad thing and go nuts. Its striking a balance. I do know what to do and it very much is fixing the mental side of thibgs and accepting change is not overnight no matter how much I want it to be
This was my line of thinking
How do you think an overly and unecessarily restrictive diet is going to benefit the OP? (Hint: It's not)10 -
@flosoup24
The author Geneen Roth has several books on intuitive eating. Perhaps see what your therapist thinks about adding her for some reading. Her focus is on relationship with self and with food. I know it's hard to focus on the self-esteem aspect if it when you feel your weight is a part of bringing your self-worth down. One of the things Geneen discusses is that what's on your plate reflects your emotional state.
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janejellyroll wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »She won't address the issue of food. She only want to work with my self esteem for now and keeps saying just to eat intuitively
So it seems (to me) like you have two options here. The first is to accept that your therapist has valid reasons for this approach right now, that she's determined that a focus on food/weight/dieting isn't what you need right now for recovery for your BED. If that's the approach, bringing up your frustrations and fears with treatment may be productive.
The second is that this isn't the right fit for you as a therapist. I'm not saying that is the case, but if you find that her approach is making your condition worse and she's not open to discussing her approach and long-term plans with you, you may want to consider if a different therapist -- one who will be more open about what success looks like for your treatment -- would be a better fit.
In either case, the question of how to beat your ED should be something you and your therapist are tackling together, not something you're having to get advice on online because you are frustrated with how she's approaching it.
I think this is great. I did a little thinking about today and its my head space. I weighed this morning and had a gain this started the spiral and then the binge and in turn searching for advice when really I want an instant cure and thus it continues.
I can completely identify. It's so hard for me to be patient with the process. I make a therapy appointment and then get angry because I'm not better yet!
For me, the vicious cycle -- stress makes me want to eat (or restrict), excessive eating (or restriction) causes stress, even dealing with the underlying emotions causes stress. It can get better though! I'm at a point where it isn't part of my daily life anymore, just something that flares up. It's possible. I'm wishing you good luck.
Im so glad that you've gotten to that point. I had felt great for 3 weeks yes food choices were made on impulse but no binge and then slap! Back today
You are having a bad day but that does not take away from the fact that you went 3 weeks previously without a binge. Rather than focus on the one bad day look at all those good days you had. Just put today behind you and keep taking those baby steps forward with the improvements you are making. You can do this and YOU ARE WORTH IT!8 -
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