Egg Fanatic

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  • msmandyjo
    msmandyjo Posts: 95 Member
    Yeah, I dont understand when someone (not attacking OP, but I see this all the time with good foods) is all upset eating 70 calorie eggs yet will scarf down 100 calorie pack cookies with absolutely no nutritional value whatsoever and feel they're making good choices. Low calorie is not always better. Why not eat high calorie, more nutrionally dense food and you'll find you eat less cause you're being properly fueled.


    :::sigh:::

    and this
  • alleyag
    alleyag Posts: 142
    2 Whole eggs have 422 mg Cholesterol. My goals says you should only have 300 mg in a whole day.
    That's why I switched to whites. It's not just about calories.

    Unless you have a cholesterol problem. Whole eggs are actually shown to lower bad cholesterol and raise good cholesterol. Again I eat 6 whole a day. And my blood work is perfect!

    Do you have cholesterol checked regularly.

    I try to have blood work done every three months. I eat quite a bit of food and over 300g of protein daily. I eat about 4000 cals a day so its not really high percentage considering amount of food intake.
  • alleyag
    alleyag Posts: 142
    The other cals come from roughly 450 g of carbs and 90 g of fat.
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    2 Whole eggs have 422 mg Cholesterol. My goals says you should only have 300 mg in a whole day.
    That's why I switched to whites. It's not just about calories.

    my concern, too. the fat and calories don't bother me..the cholesterol does.
    The human body MAKES cholesterol. If you eat more cholesterol, the body just makes less to compensate. If you eat less cholesterol, the body just makes more. So eating cholesterol does not have any effect on your overall blood cholesterol level.
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    For those worried about cholesterol.

    Dietary cholesterol has no effect on your blood serum cholesterol.

    Eat as many whole eggs as your daily calorie intake and macros allow pertaining to your goals.

    Joe, that's not really true. What you eat does affect your serum cholesterol, there's a reason why you are supposed to fast before having your cholesterol levels checked. It would probably be more accurate to say that cholesterol levels are not always a good indicator of cardiovascular health or disease.

    Sort of but not quite. While yes, eating a large amount of cholesterol can change your cholesterol level in the very short her, your body adjusts the amount of cholesterol it makes based on what you eat, and it's needs. You fast before having your levels checked to insure that it's an accurate reading, that it's not overly high or low because of something you may have eaten in the past few hours. But overall, it has no bearing, as eating a high level of cholesterol just causes your body to slow cholesterol production to even it out.
  • TK421NotAtPost
    TK421NotAtPost Posts: 512 Member
    Eggs along with their cholesterol/fat content are another example of how mainstream nutritional recommendations lag behind current research findings.

    It's interesting how some people are quick to vilify high protein consumption by citing mainstream nutritional guidelines, but completely ignore those same standards when it comes to egg consumption.
  • liftingbro
    liftingbro Posts: 2,029 Member
    "Cholesterol and triglyceride levels were unrelated to quality, quantity, or proportions of fat, carbohydrate, or protein consumed in the 24-hr recall period. These findings suggest that serum cholesterol and triglyceride levels among Americans are more dependent on the degree of adiposity than on the frequency of fat, sugar, starch or alcohol."

    - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/998550
    - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/989556

    1st study:
    The present findings do not exclude a relationship between consumption of dietary cholesterol and serum cholesterol concentration.Connor et al. (51) and Connor and Lin (52) have demonstrated that serum cholesterol levels are proportional to dietary intake within the range of 400 mg of dietary cholesterol
    daily (51, 52).
    Basically what this study shows is that dietary Cholesterol IS affected by daily consumption upto 400mg, which is huge when you are running levels without fasting as done in the study. Had they run the study with one group fasting and the other eating eggs for breakfast, things would have been completely different. Also, if you put one group on a long term low cholesterol diet and the other on a high cholestrol diet, things would be different. The fact that they tracked the diets via a survey and not direct dietary intervention (prepared meals) makes this study pretty useless. People were not instructed to measure portions or anything and were just asked "what did you eat day X". Very flawed.


    "Significant correlations of serum cholesterol with dietary components were not observed"

    - http://www.ajcn.org/content/16/2/238.long

    "The trial compared the effects of a 39% fat control diet (18% saturated fat, 5% polyunsaturated fat, 16% monounsaturated fat, 446 mg dietary cholesterol per day) with a 38% fat treatment diet (9% saturated fat, 15% polyunsaturated fat, 14% monounsaturated fat, 166 mg dietary cholesterol per day) on serum cholesterol levels and the incidence of myocardial infarctions, sudden deaths, and all-cause mortality. The mean duration of time on the diets was 384 days, with 1568 subjects consuming the diet for over 2 years. The mean serum cholesterol level in the pre-admission period was 207 mg/dl, falling to 175 mg/dl in the treatment group and 203 mg/dl in the control group. For the entire study population, no differences between the treatment and control groups were observed for cardiovascular events, cardiovascular deaths, or total mortality."

    - http://atvb.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/9/1/129

    This study found that even though the untreated group ate double the Saturated Fat and over 2.5 times the dietary cholesterol, mean serum cholesterol levels relatively stayed the same. The treated group did however, experience a drop when SFA was replaced with mainly PUFA's. The point being, Saturated Fat did not account for an increase in serum cholesterol.
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    No offense Joe, you and I think alike on a lot of things but this (Clinical Chemistry) is an area of expertise for me.

    The above ahajournails study proves nothing. People ate a diet before the first cholesterol, then ate about the same diet and surprisingly had no significant change in cholesterol levels. What else did they expect.
  • joejccva71
    joejccva71 Posts: 2,985 Member
    No offense Joe, you and I think alike on a lot of things but this (Clinical Chemistry) is an area of expertise for me.

    The above ahajournails study proves nothing. People ate a diet before the first cholesterol, then ate about the same diet and surprisingly had no significant change in cholesterol levels. What else did they expect.

    Bro their serum levels had NO change or relatively stayed the same. I'm not doubting your knowledge on the subject, but i'm just saying. What about the studies by the NIH above? Also the ajcn study about the correlations between the two were not observed?
  • liftingbro
    liftingbro Posts: 2,029 Member
    No offense Joe, you and I think alike on a lot of things but this (Clinical Chemistry) is an area of expertise for me.

    The above ahajournails study proves nothing. People ate a diet before the first cholesterol, then ate about the same diet and surprisingly had no significant change in cholesterol levels. What else did they expect.

    Bro their serum levels had NO change or relatively stayed the same. I'm not doubting your knowledge on the subject, but i'm just saying. What about the studies by the NIH above? Also the acjn study about the correlations between the two were not observed?

    Again, Joe, fasting cholestol levels will be different from fed cholesterol levels. I see it every day when someone didn't fast and had their blood work run. Neither study evaluates a change in diet for the same individual, so they are no valid for this arguement. It's common knowledge that genetics plays a role in how people metabolize lipids. So simply, "look dietary intake of cholesterol levels doesm't matter because this person eating a higher cholesterol diet does not have a high cholesterol and this person who does not eat that much cholesterol has a higher one", does not mean anything in the arguement. In order to make these studies valid they needed to change the diets of the individuals and observe the changes or lack of change.

    There are people who can eat anything they want and they will have a normal cholesterol and there will be others who will have a high cholesterol no matter what they eat or what medications they are on. Because of this variation in lipid metabolism, it is imparative to have compared differing diet's affects on cholesterol levels on an individaul basis.
  • joejccva71
    joejccva71 Posts: 2,985 Member
    There are people who can eat anything they want and they will have a normal cholesterol and there will be others who will have a high cholesterol no matter what they eat or what medications they are on. Because of this variation in lipid metabolism, it is imparative to have compared differing diet's affects on cholesterol levels on an individaul basis.

    Not trying to argue with ya man but think about this paragraph you wrote. People that can eat anything they want and have normal cholesterol, and then others who will have high cholesterol no matter what they eat. Those with the high cholesterol levels most likely (not always) are hereditary or another cause, but it's MOST LIKELY not from eating a certain type of food bro. I mean I have RARELY if at all have EVER heard of someone getting CVD or CHD from having too high of cholesterol FROM the food they ate.
  • liftingbro
    liftingbro Posts: 2,029 Member
    There are people who can eat anything they want and they will have a normal cholesterol and there will be others who will have a high cholesterol no matter what they eat or what medications they are on. Because of this variation in lipid metabolism, it is imparative to have compared differing diet's affects on cholesterol levels on an individaul basis.

    Not trying to argue with ya man but think about this paragraph you wrote. People that can eat anything they want and have normal cholesterol, and then others who will have high cholesterol no matter what they eat. Those with the high cholesterol levels most likely (not always) are hereditary or another cause, but it's MOST LIKELY not from eating a certain type of food bro.

    I already said there is a geneitc component to lipid metabolism. This is part of the reason why the study needed to be done on a individual basis with varied diet. However, most people who eat too much cholesterol/fatty foods will have high cholesterol levels.The interesting thing here would be to find out why, specifically, some people can metabolize lipids very well while others cannot. It does appear that the more obese you are the less easy it is to metabolize lipids, so that's one known angle but then there are also some thin people who struggle with cholesterol levels.

    We do know that for most people increased lipid intake results in increased cholesterol levels. There is some evidance that obese people are less efficient in metabolizing lipids (so more likely to struggle with cholesterol levels) but at this point the rest of the exceptions are not well enough studied to know for sure how they work.

    So, what I'm saying is it's not correct to say that dietary cholestrol does not affect serum cholesterol levels because for the vast majority of people it does. When I worked in chemistry on a daily basis I saw the effects of lipid intake directly on lipid levels, this is a known fact. However, not everyone metabolizes lipids at the same level of efficiency. I will bet anyone $1000 that if you go eat a double cheese burger with bacon and a few hours later get your lipids done they will be completely eff'd compared to your fasting lipids.
  • joejccva71
    joejccva71 Posts: 2,985 Member
    Not to beat the dead horse, but these were quotes that Alan Aragon used himself.
    Fernandez ML. Dietary cholesterol provided by eggs and plasma lipoproteins in healthy populations. Curr Opin Clin Nutr Metab Care. 2006 Jan;9(1):8-12.

    PURPOSE OF REVIEW: Extensive research has not clearly established a link between egg consumption and risk for coronary heart disease. The effects of egg intake on plasma lipids and low-density lipoprotein (LDL) atherogenicity in healthy populations need to be addressed. RECENT FINDINGS: The lack of connection between heart disease and egg intake could partially be explained by the fact that dietary cholesterol increases the concentrations of both circulating LDL and high-density lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol in those individuals who experience an increase in plasma cholesterol following egg consumption (hyperresponders). It is also important to note that 70% of the population experiences a mild increase or no alterations in plasma cholesterol concentrations when challenged with high amounts of dietary cholesterol (hyporesponders). Egg intake has been shown to promote the formation of large LDL, in addition to shifting individuals from the LDL pattern B to pattern A, which is less atherogenic. Eggs are also good sources of antioxidants known to protect the eye; therefore, increased plasma concentrations of lutein and zeaxanthin in individuals consuming eggs are also of interest, especially in those populations susceptible to developing macular degeneration and eye cataracts. SUMMARY: For these reasons, dietary recommendations aimed at restricting egg consumption should not be generalized to include all individuals. We need to acknowledge that diverse healthy populations experience no risk in developing coronary heart disease by increasing their intake of cholesterol but, in contrast, they may have multiple beneficial effects by the inclusion of eggs in their regular diet.

    Kritchevsky SB. A review of scientific research and recommendations regarding eggs. J Am Coll Nutr. 2004 Dec;23(6 Suppl):596S-600S.

    For much of the past 40 years, the public has been warned away from eggs because of a concern over coronary heart disease risk. This concern is based on three observations: 1. eggs are a rich source of dietary cholesterol; 2. when fed experimentally, dietary cholesterol increases serum cholesterol and; 3. high serum cholesterol predicts the onset of coronary heart disease. However, data from free-living populations show that egg consumption is not associated with higher cholesterol levels. Furthermore, as a whole, the epidemiologic literature does not support the idea that egg consumption is a risk factor for coronary disease. Within the nutritional community there is a growing appreciation that health derives from an overall pattern of diet rather than from the avoidance of particular foods, and there has been a shift in the tone in recent dietary recommendations away from "avoidance" messages to ones that promote healthy eating patterns. The most recent American Heart Association guidelines no longer include a recommendation to limit egg consumption, but recommend the adoption of eating practices associated with good health. Based on the epidemiologic evidence, there is no reason to think that such a healthy eating pattern could not include eggs.

    Herron KL, Lofgren IE, Sharman M, Volek JS, Fernandez ML. Metabolism. 2004 Jun;53(6):823-30. High intake of cholesterol results in less atherogenic low-density lipoprotein particles in men and women independent of response classification.

    The influence of a high-cholesterol diet on the atherogenicity of the low-density lipoprotein (LDL) particle was examined by measuring LDL peak diameter and composition, LDL susceptibility to oxidation, and the distribution of cholesterol between LDL subclasses. The crossover intervention randomly assigned 27 premenopausal women and 25 men (18 to 50 years) to an egg (640 mg/d additional dietary cholesterol) or placebo (0 mg/d additional dietary cholesterol) diet for 30 days, followed by a 3-week washout period. Subjects were classified as either hyperresponders (>2.5 mg/dL increase in plasma cholesterol for each 100 mg additional dietary cholesterol consumed) or hyporesponders to dietary cholesterol. Sex was found to have a significant effect on 3 of the parameters examined. LDL peak diameter was significantly larger (P <.005) in females (26.78 +/- 0.59 nm, n = 27) as compared with males (26.52 +/- 0.49 nm, n = 25), regardless of response to dietary cholesterol. The LDL particles of the male participants also had a higher number of triglyceride (TG) and cholesteryl ester (CE) molecules (P <.01); however, cholesterol ester transfer protein (CETP) activity was higher in females (P <.05). Response classification also revealed significant differences in the determination of LDL subclasses. Independent of sex, the LDL-1 particle (P <.05), which is considered to be less atherogenic, was predominant in hyperresponders and this finding was associated with increased cholesterol intake (interactive effect, P <.001). In addition, CETP and lecithin: cholesterol acyltransferase (LCAT) activities were higher in hyperresponders during the egg period (interactive effect, P <.05). Sex, response to cholesterol intake, and diet were not found to affect the susceptibility of LDL to oxidation (P > 0.5). Because LDL peak diameter was not decreased and the larger LDL-1 subclass was greater in hyperresponders following egg intake, these data indicate that the consumption of a high-cholesterol diet does not negatively influence the atherogenicity of the LDL particle.

    Herron KL, Vega-Lopez S, Conde K, Ramjiganesh T, Shachter NS, Fernandez ML. Men classified as hypo- or hyperresponders to dietary cholesterol feeding exhibit differences in lipoprotein metabolism. J Nutr. 2003 Apr;133(4):1036-42.

    The purpose of this study was to evaluate the differences that occur within the plasma compartment of normolipidemic men, classified on the basis of their response to prolonged consumption of additional dietary cholesterol. Using a crossover design, 40 men aged 18-57 y were randomly allocated to an egg (640 mg/d additional dietary cholesterol) or placebo group (0 mg/d additional dietary cholesterol), for two 30-d periods, which were separated by a 3-wk washout period. Subjects were classified as hypo- [increase in plasma total cholesterol (TC) of <0.05 mmol/L for each additional 100 mg of dietary cholesterol consumed] or hyperresponders (increase in TC of > or =0.06 mmol/L for each additional 100 mg of dietary cholesterol consumed) on the basis of their plasma reaction to the additional dietary cholesterol provided. Male hyporesponders did not experience an increase in LDL cholesterol (LDL-C) or HDL cholesterol (HDL-C) during the egg period, whereas both lipoproteins were significantly (P < 0.0001 and P < 0.05, respectively) elevated in hyperresponders. Although the LDL/HDL ratio was increased in male hyperresponders after the high cholesterol period, the mean increase experienced by this population was still within National Cholesterol Education Program guidelines. Furthermore, male hyperresponders had higher lecithin cholesterol acyltransferase (P < 0.05) and cholesteryl ester transfer protein (P < 0.05) activities during the egg period, which suggests an increase in reverse cholesterol transport. These data suggest that additional dietary cholesterol does not increase the risk of developing an atherogenic lipoprotein profile in healthy men, regardless of their response classification.
  • susanswan
    susanswan Posts: 1,194 Member
    What's wrong with just regular old eggs? They're really good for you. Excellent protein and healthy fats, lots of vitamins.

    Stop obsessing over calories and concentrate on eating real food.

    I am a fan of real food, too. Eggs are so cheap! I usually just mix up a bunch of whites with whatever number of yolks that make sense to me that day. Not a fan of just egg whites - unless we are talking meringue! Never tried egg beaters or cartoned fake egg products or whatever is in them. More chemicals. Just throw out the yolks and eat real eggs & slip yourself a yolk or two. As long as that isn't all you're eating!
  • joejccva71
    joejccva71 Posts: 2,985 Member
    Wait....

    Mcrow are we talking about eating eggs or tipping over a bottle of crisco and drinking the entire bottle? =)
  • spa9177
    spa9177 Posts: 327 Member
    I will never eat egg beaters...I do not substitute real for fake, to me it's not worth it. You only live once and I have a fried egg everyday with just a little butter so it doesn't stick. I have lost 37lbs. And I don't add any artifical flavorings...yuck yuck yuck.



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  • liftingbro
    liftingbro Posts: 2,029 Member
    Not to beat the dead horse, but these were quotes that Alan Aragon used himself.
    Fernandez ML. Dietary cholesterol provided by eggs and plasma lipoproteins in healthy populations. Curr Opin Clin Nutr Metab Care. 2006 Jan;9(1):8-12.

    PURPOSE OF REVIEW: Extensive research has not clearly established a link between egg consumption and risk for coronary heart disease. The effects of egg intake on plasma lipids and low-density lipoprotein (LDL) atherogenicity in healthy populations need to be addressed. RECENT FINDINGS: The lack of connection between heart disease and egg intake could partially be explained by the fact that dietary cholesterol increases the concentrations of both circulating LDL and high-density lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol in those individuals who experience an increase in plasma cholesterol following egg consumption (hyperresponders). It is also important to note that 70% of the population experiences a mild increase or no alterations in plasma cholesterol concentrations when challenged with high amounts of dietary cholesterol (hyporesponders). Egg intake has been shown to promote the formation of large LDL, in addition to shifting individuals from the LDL pattern B to pattern A, which is less atherogenic. Eggs are also good sources of antioxidants known to protect the eye; therefore, increased plasma concentrations of lutein and zeaxanthin in individuals consuming eggs are also of interest, especially in those populations susceptible to developing macular degeneration and eye cataracts. SUMMARY: For these reasons, dietary recommendations aimed at restricting egg consumption should not be generalized to include all individuals. We need to acknowledge that diverse healthy populations experience no risk in developing coronary heart disease by increasing their intake of cholesterol but, in contrast, they may have multiple beneficial effects by the inclusion of eggs in their regular diet.

    Kritchevsky SB. A review of scientific research and recommendations regarding eggs. J Am Coll Nutr. 2004 Dec;23(6 Suppl):596S-600S.

    For much of the past 40 years, the public has been warned away from eggs because of a concern over coronary heart disease risk. This concern is based on three observations: 1. eggs are a rich source of dietary cholesterol; 2. when fed experimentally, dietary cholesterol increases serum cholesterol and; 3. high serum cholesterol predicts the onset of coronary heart disease. However, data from free-living populations show that egg consumption is not associated with higher cholesterol levels. Furthermore, as a whole, the epidemiologic literature does not support the idea that egg consumption is a risk factor for coronary disease. Within the nutritional community there is a growing appreciation that health derives from an overall pattern of diet rather than from the avoidance of particular foods, and there has been a shift in the tone in recent dietary recommendations away from "avoidance" messages to ones that promote healthy eating patterns. The most recent American Heart Association guidelines no longer include a recommendation to limit egg consumption, but recommend the adoption of eating practices associated with good health. Based on the epidemiologic evidence, there is no reason to think that such a healthy eating pattern could not include eggs.

    Herron KL, Lofgren IE, Sharman M, Volek JS, Fernandez ML. Metabolism. 2004 Jun;53(6):823-30. High intake of cholesterol results in less atherogenic low-density lipoprotein particles in men and women independent of response classification.

    The influence of a high-cholesterol diet on the atherogenicity of the low-density lipoprotein (LDL) particle was examined by measuring LDL peak diameter and composition, LDL susceptibility to oxidation, and the distribution of cholesterol between LDL subclasses. The crossover intervention randomly assigned 27 premenopausal women and 25 men (18 to 50 years) to an egg (640 mg/d additional dietary cholesterol) or placebo (0 mg/d additional dietary cholesterol) diet for 30 days, followed by a 3-week washout period. Subjects were classified as either hyperresponders (>2.5 mg/dL increase in plasma cholesterol for each 100 mg additional dietary cholesterol consumed) or hyporesponders to dietary cholesterol. Sex was found to have a significant effect on 3 of the parameters examined. LDL peak diameter was significantly larger (P <.005) in females (26.78 +/- 0.59 nm, n = 27) as compared with males (26.52 +/- 0.49 nm, n = 25), regardless of response to dietary cholesterol. The LDL particles of the male participants also had a higher number of triglyceride (TG) and cholesteryl ester (CE) molecules (P <.01); however, cholesterol ester transfer protein (CETP) activity was higher in females (P <.05). Response classification also revealed significant differences in the determination of LDL subclasses. Independent of sex, the LDL-1 particle (P <.05), which is considered to be less atherogenic, was predominant in hyperresponders and this finding was associated with increased cholesterol intake (interactive effect, P <.001). In addition, CETP and lecithin: cholesterol acyltransferase (LCAT) activities were higher in hyperresponders during the egg period (interactive effect, P <.05). Sex, response to cholesterol intake, and diet were not found to affect the susceptibility of LDL to oxidation (P > 0.5). Because LDL peak diameter was not decreased and the larger LDL-1 subclass was greater in hyperresponders following egg intake, these data indicate that the consumption of a high-cholesterol diet does not negatively influence the atherogenicity of the LDL particle.

    Herron KL, Vega-Lopez S, Conde K, Ramjiganesh T, Shachter NS, Fernandez ML. Men classified as hypo- or hyperresponders to dietary cholesterol feeding exhibit differences in lipoprotein metabolism. J Nutr. 2003 Apr;133(4):1036-42.

    The purpose of this study was to evaluate the differences that occur within the plasma compartment of normolipidemic men, classified on the basis of their response to prolonged consumption of additional dietary cholesterol. Using a crossover design, 40 men aged 18-57 y were randomly allocated to an egg (640 mg/d additional dietary cholesterol) or placebo group (0 mg/d additional dietary cholesterol), for two 30-d periods, which were separated by a 3-wk washout period. Subjects were classified as hypo- [increase in plasma total cholesterol (TC) of <0.05 mmol/L for each additional 100 mg of dietary cholesterol consumed] or hyperresponders (increase in TC of > or =0.06 mmol/L for each additional 100 mg of dietary cholesterol consumed) on the basis of their plasma reaction to the additional dietary cholesterol provided. Male hyporesponders did not experience an increase in LDL cholesterol (LDL-C) or HDL cholesterol (HDL-C) during the egg period, whereas both lipoproteins were significantly (P < 0.0001 and P < 0.05, respectively) elevated in hyperresponders. Although the LDL/HDL ratio was increased in male hyperresponders after the high cholesterol period, the mean increase experienced by this population was still within National Cholesterol Education Program guidelines. Furthermore, male hyperresponders had higher lecithin cholesterol acyltransferase (P < 0.05) and cholesteryl ester transfer protein (P < 0.05) activities during the egg period, which suggests an increase in reverse cholesterol transport. These data suggest that additional dietary cholesterol does not increase the risk of developing an atherogenic lipoprotein profile in healthy men, regardless of their response classification.

    Joe, all but one of those studies are talking about coronary disease and the connection to cholesterol. As I said earlier, cholesterol levels are not always an indicator of coronary diseas or health. In fact, those studies prove my point, increased cholesterol intake means increased serum cholesterol levels for most people. This is why I'm not too worried about people who have chronically high cholesterol levels inspite of diet changes and medications. It seems to me that some people can be perfectly healthy with high lipid levels. Like I said, I'm for eating eggs and don't find anything wrong with them though if you have a high cholesterol you should probably check with your MD in the case that you are one of those where cholesterol levels can affect health.
  • liftingbro
    liftingbro Posts: 2,029 Member
    Wait....

    Mcrow are we talking about eating eggs or tipping over a bottle of crisco and drinking the entire bottle? =)

    Eggs are fine, as I said earier. The only time I would worry about eating eggs is if you have a high cholesterol already and have not been evaluated for coranary disease. If that's the case, you should at least have your lipids run and change your diet to see if your lpids also change. However, for most people I can't see where eating eggs regularly is a problem.
  • AdAstra47
    AdAstra47 Posts: 823 Member
    Our bodies are funny things, all those hormones and chemicals interacting in unexpected ways, it makes it really hard to establish causality or figure out whether a study is useful or not...

    Just from personal experience, I agree with those who say that a high percentage of fat or cholesterol in a food like eggs is not necessarily something to worry about. Fat and cholesterol are necessary for healthy cell function. It's not as if what you eat goes straight into your bloodstream as is; everything's digested & converted & processed first. Calories from carbs are far more likely to end up stored as body fat than calories from fat are! Weird, but true.

    When I began seeing my current doctor, I had dangerously high cholesterol. He put me on a low-carb, high-protein diet. Those were my only two rules: stay under a certain number of carbs per day, and eat at least a certain number of protein grams per day. He left it entirely up to me, how to do that. I asked him about certain "bad" foods, or about avoiding certain foods to bring my cholesterol down, and he said I shouldn't worry about that. He said that losing weight overall, and eating fewer carbs, would take care of the cholesterol problem no matter what I ate. And four months later, here I am 30 lb lighter and my cholesterol levels are solidly in the middle of the healthy range across the board. So I don't know if that's true for everyone, but it's true for me.

    So, again, I say, if you like the eggs, eat the eggs! :happy:
  • Love eggs. I eat two every morning with a few black beans, tomato, and Cholula.
    Hard boiled eggs are the ultimate convenience food.
  • wildon883r
    wildon883r Posts: 429 Member
    Two every day with a Pure protein bar for breakfast. This gives me the recommended 30G of protein within 30 minutes of waking recommened for weight loss. I'm good for 5 hours before i get hungry. Eggs are healthy, Cholesterol is not raised by eating eggs. Eggs are VERY healthy food. 70 calories per egg is really nothing. McDonalds sausage egg McMuffin has nearly 400 calories and is a pile of processed trash imo.
  • demonNIИ
    demonNIИ Posts: 187
    I love eggs too!! Recently I switched back to Eggland's best to cut down on a bit of the cholesterol and sat fat
  • Melmade
    Melmade Posts: 349 Member
    I love them too. I might suggest a slice of really ripe avocado with cooked egg white, and then a whole egg in addition to that. I've been lately boiling eggs, eating one whole egg, and the other yolk I split between my son and my dog. Sounds kinda funny, but yolks have such great nutritive value for people and are really great for a dog's coat.
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    I never understood eating just the egg whites. Egg whites are basically nutritionless. They contain about half of the egg's total protein, and really that's about it. The rest of the protein and just about all of the vitamins and minerals are in the yolk. Egg white isn't even a complete protein, so eating it by itself is useless.
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