What type of diet are most people doing? Keto? WW? Which is the healthiest?

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  • whatalazyidiot
    whatalazyidiot Posts: 343 Member
    nygr8guy wrote: »
    I found a Keto calcultor which says I should do 20g carbs, 80 grams protein 100 grams fat =1300 calories per day. I am 5'6" Male, little exercise. I hate the word sedentary.
    Does this sound right?

    The calories seem low for you. I am the same height and probably 70-80 lbs heavier than you, and that's the amount of calories I get if I choose to lose 2lbs a week. Seems as a male who has less to lose, your calories should be higher.

    But if you really, really want to do Keto, I would look at the groups. I think there is a big Keto one with other people doing the same thing.
  • paperpudding
    paperpudding Posts: 9,302 Member
    nygr8guy wrote: »
    I want to cut out sugars and carbs so I can keep insulin low. I have less cravings without sugar. On the other hand, all the years that fats were said to be bad still has an influence on me. How can I eat fats and not affect heart health? It's just so confusing. Cutting calories will allow weight loss, but are the foods we eat optimal for longevity?

    I don't think longetivity comes from one source.

    Aim to eat a reasonably balanced diet - use any reputable source for general guidelines if you have no idea - keep your weight to healthy level, don't smoke, use sun protection,don't drink to excess, have checkups and preventative tests ( Pap smears, FOBT etc) as recomended.

    Those are things you can control. Things like genetics or planes crashing you cannot.

    Very little longetivity benifit to any specific diet unless you have medical reason.

  • Healthydiner65
    Healthydiner65 Posts: 1,455 Member
    No diet just calories in vs calories out, lower carbs. Still eat what I want within reason. And walk walk walk
  • laurenq1991
    laurenq1991 Posts: 384 Member
    edited December 2018
    For weight loss: eat whatever you want as long as it fits your daily calorie limit.

    For overall health: the diet recommended by most nutritionists and researchers for best overall health and disease prevention is a diet with a balance of proteins, carbs, and fat (you can look up recommended percentages online); rich in fruits, vegetables, whole grains, legumes, and nuts; with low to moderate amounts of animal products; and limiting refined grains, processed sugar, food additives, and so on.
  • nutmegoreo
    nutmegoreo Posts: 15,532 Member
    nygr8guy wrote: »
    I want to cut out sugars and carbs so I can keep insulin low. I have less cravings without sugar. On the other hand, all the years that fats were said to be bad still has an influence on me. How can I eat fats and not affect heart health? It's just so confusing. Cutting calories will allow weight loss, but are the foods we eat optimal for longevity?

    Well, if you look at the Blue Zone populations (i.e. the longest living groups), you'll notice that carbs play a large role in their diet. Low added sugar, but plenty of naturally-occurring ones in fruits and vegetables.

    This is where I would start too, since you seem certain you need to change your diet.
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    Low fat diets leave me hungry. Adding about a teaspoon of fats to each meal extends both pleasure and satiety, not to mention fat soluble vitamins. Think salad dressing on the salad. Butter on the bread. Cheese with the apple. The. Whole. Egg.

    If you want to improve your diet for overall health, I suggest using the choose my plate to balance your meal across the food groups.

    https://www.choosemyplate.gov

    Both Becel and olive oil are touted to be heart healthy.

    But going for regular cardio exercise will do more for your heart health than any one food.
  • rheddmobile
    rheddmobile Posts: 6,840 Member
    You don’t necessarily need to go full keto in order to benefit from reduced cravings from
    cutting back on added sugars. Limiting refined sugars not only reduces my cravings for ultra sweetened foods but also for the foods I associate with them - overly salty and greasy foods which balance the taste. If you have difficulty moderating these foods, cutting back on them may help you. If this way of eating works for you, don’t let others tell you how to eat.
  • kimny72
    kimny72 Posts: 16,011 Member
    FemmeBritt wrote: »
    I'm doing the master cleanse.

    Oh no, why?
  • psychod787
    psychod787 Posts: 4,099 Member
    FemmeBritt wrote: »
    I'm doing the master cleanse.

    Eat enough fiber, and you will cleanse... 😁
  • paperpudding
    paperpudding Posts: 9,302 Member
    or a bowl or two of stewed prunes

    or 1/2 kg of licorice.

    Or, if you really have a serious issue with constipation, use a sensible amount of laxative medication.

    You do not need a master cleanse - that is just silly nonsense.
  • L1zardQueen
    L1zardQueen Posts: 8,753 Member
    or a bowl or two of stewed prunes

    or 1/2 kg of licorice.

    Or, if you really have a serious issue with constipation, use a sensible amount of laxative medication.

    You do not need a master cleanse - that is just silly nonsense.

    Licorice. Really? Black, I assume.
  • paperpudding
    paperpudding Posts: 9,302 Member
    Yes. licorice is known to have mild laxative effect on many people, in large quantities.

    Strong black licorice more so, I presume.
  • May_anka
    May_anka Posts: 16 Member
    The best diet is the one you can continue on for the rest of your life.

    If you can eat keto for the rest of your life, then it would be a great way to lose weight and keep it off. Otherwise it is just losing weight.
  • L1zardQueen
    L1zardQueen Posts: 8,753 Member
    Yes. licorice is known to have mild laxative effect on many people, in large quantities.

    Strong black licorice more so, I presume.

    Ahh. Didn’t know this could help me.

    I think the sugar free gummi bears work for me better. I have tried to like black licorice but I just can’t, too salty.
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 34,600 Member
    nygr8guy wrote: »
    I found a Keto calcultor which says I should do 20g carbs, 80 grams protein 100 grams fat =1300 calories per day. I am 5'6" Male, little exercise. I hate the word sedentary.
    Does this sound right?

    No, not really. I'm a 5'5" 63 year old woman. I'd lose too fast on 1300 net. Men generally need a minimum of 1500 for adequate nutrition (I understand that you're not tall.)

    And don't think about "exercise", unless you like looking at it that way. Just think about moving more, in ways that are fun for you, personally. It could be almost anything: Carpentry, gardening, dancing, playing rock'n'roll drums, martial arts, or any of a zillion more. Besides fun activities like that, move more throughout your day (ideas here: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10610953/neat-improvement-strategies-to-improve-weight-loss/). Those things will let you eat more, while still losing at a reasonable rate.

    I used this eating plan to lose almost 1/3 of my body weight in just less than a year at age 59-60 (after being obese for decades, not to mention hypothyroid), and to stay at a healthy weight for 3 years since:

    https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10636388/free-customized-personal-weight-loss-eating-plan-not-spam-or-mlm

    If you just want to "do keto" or you have medical problems for which it may be a solution, or if eating lots of vegetables, grains, fruits and such make you crave carbs or make it hard to control your appetite, then keto may be right for you. Otherwise, it's not necessary to do keto or even low carb to lose weight. I lost weight eating close to 200g carbs most days. The eating plan at the link above will - amazingly enough - work for low carb or moderate-all-macros plans (among others), whatever keeps you full and happy.

    Best wishes! :)
  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,689 Member
    Calorie deficit

    This one.

    It's easy.
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    I've been doing Keto for a few years. I started it to address climbing BG levels. I continue it to maintain lower BG and insulin for better health, it reduces my inflammation and pain, and it reduces my appetite so weight man agent is easier. Ymmv

    I recommend reading Big Fat Surprise. It goes into the history of where the old low fat dogma came from and why it may not be ideL, good book.
  • elysiannn
    elysiannn Posts: 9 Member
    I do calorie counting, in combination with intermittent fasting. Personally, too many restrictions on what I'm allowed and not allowed to eat makes me OBSESSIVE, so I try to base things off a general deficit and be as balanced with my nutrition as I can.
  • nygr8guy
    nygr8guy Posts: 77 Member
    Last night was a disaster for me. I was following my low carb high fat macros until I attended a farewell party for leaving my job. We had appetizers like pretzel fondue, and I also had a few martinis. That was last night, today is today. :-)
  • psychod787
    psychod787 Posts: 4,099 Member
    nygr8guy wrote: »
    Last night was a disaster for me. I was following my low carb high fat macros until I attended a farewell party for leaving my job. We had appetizers like pretzel fondue, and I also had a few martinis. That was last night, today is today. :-)

    Maybe that's a sign.... just saying... if you were "flexible" no problem as long as you stick to your calories.
  • nygr8guy
    nygr8guy Posts: 77 Member
    psychod787 wrote: »
    nygr8guy wrote: »
    Last night was a disaster for me. I was following my low carb high fat macros until I attended a farewell party for leaving my job. We had appetizers like pretzel fondue, and I also had a few martinis. That was last night, today is today. :-)

    Maybe that's a sign.... just saying... if you were "flexible" no problem as long as you stick to your calories.

    I was flexible, but I certainly didn't stick to my calories. It's like I threw everything I learned out the window. I didn't want to "deprive" myself of enjoying the foods everyone else were having. On top of all of the apps, I had a bacon cheeseburger with the bun. OMG, so good, but I got it out of my system.
  • Ohiogirlatheart
    Ohiogirlatheart Posts: 15 Member
    I started a balanced food plan (with journaling every single day--the good, the bad and the ugly--on MFP), exercise (now at 4-5 times a week at the gym and walking 1 hour every day with my dog) on 12/27/17. In a 1 year period I lost 51 pounds. I eat from 1500 - 2000 calories per day with emphasis on protein and very few processed carbs. When I started at the gym my exercise was getting in and out of the equipment. When I started walking I could barely get a lap around the block. Now, I have lost almost 12 inches around my waist, can walk for up to 90 minutes and a pretty good pace and am not winded. I am 63 years old, not exactly a spring chicken. I haven't felt this good in 25 years. There are good days and not so good days. What I like about MFP is that every day is a new day. Find your balance and persevere. Hope this helps.
  • normanntwa
    normanntwa Posts: 1 Member
    Keto Diet high fat 60% protein 25% carbs 15% especially if diabetic type 2. Watch medication as you may have to reduce.
  • 12gr34
    12gr34 Posts: 8 Member
    Calorie Deficit supported by daily exercise and using tracker with myfitnesspal
  • 12gr34
    12gr34 Posts: 8 Member
    Did Keto and it works but reached a plateau as I did not have a plan and lost interest in the strict regime.
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