Crossfit and gym for burning fat?

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  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    jodienovell wrote: »
    quiksylver296 wrote: »
    jodienovell wrote: »
    JBanx256 wrote: »
    jodienovell wrote: »
    Look, I hear all the thungs you're saying. But I just. I don't think I can do 1500 calories. I feel like 1200 is the highest I should go, otherwise the weightloss will be minimal.. I refuse to believe my TDEE is over 1700 and I refuse to believe I'm exercising hard enough that it really counts for more than maybe 500-600 calories per week. If I don't feel sore, super tired or generally exhausted after a workout, I didn't go hard enough. And that's the case 90% of the time, and I'm working on it. I just need to do it consistently so I don't end up losing only muscle. I know you can't gain muscle on a deficit but I can try to maintain it as best as I can. I'm really scared of ending up very skinnyfat. My fat percentage is already really high (shown in the body scan, it really is higher than average) and I look way way way too big for my weight. So I just need to stick with this

    You say "you FEEL" but here is the things...feelings aren't facts. They just aren't.

    I VERY rarely "feel sore, super tired or generally exhausted after a workout." That does NOT mean the workout wasn't good or that I'm not making progress.

    And as we have pointed out, if you limit yourself so strictly on calories, you WILL lose muscle.

    You end your comment with, "so I just need to stick with this." So please tell me what was the point of starting multiple threads asking for advice if you're going to refuse to take advice from people who, dare I say, know a helluva lot more about it than you do? You're making a truly bad decision. That's not an opinion. It's not a FEELING. It's a fact. But hey, whatever, it's your life.

    I DONT KNOW. Im just,, confused. About a lot of things. Whenever I look stuff up on google or whatever the info is super conflicting. I feel bad about myself and needed some opinions. But I guess Im sorry then for wasting everyones time

    Google is not your friend when it comes to smart weight loss. Did you read this thread when I posted it earlier?

    Read it. Do those things. Succeed.

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1080242/a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants/p1

    I did read it

    The author, @sidesteel, is a certified trainer and is awesome at what he does. That thread is pure gold when you're looking for the right way to do things.
  • JBanx256
    JBanx256 Posts: 1,479 Member
    jodienovell wrote: »
    I DONT KNOW. Im just,, confused. About a lot of things. Whenever I look stuff up on google or whatever the info is super conflicting. I feel bad about myself and needed some opinions. But I guess Im sorry then for wasting everyones time

    You asked for opinions. You got opinions. You also got facts. Lots of them. And you're choosing to ignore them.

    As @quicksylver296 pointed out, random Google searches aren't gonna help you on this. Remember, there are plenty of websites out there that will tell you the earth is flat and Elvis is still alive.
  • jasonpoihegatama
    jasonpoihegatama Posts: 496 Member
    Cool crossfit was going bad with poor form and injuries. You should ask your crossfit trainer as 1000 cals is low for someone active even on days off
  • 7elizamae
    7elizamae Posts: 758 Member
    CrossFit is about being strong and healthy -- not just thin.

    I agree with the suggestion of speaking to your CrossFit coach if that seems doable. Also, get yourself in to your physician and ask him/her what you asked us. There are a lot of people who can help you get on track with healthy habits. You can eat properly (enough calories) and still be fit!
  • musicfan68
    musicfan68 Posts: 1,143 Member
    You need to be referred to a therapist. Obviously you won't listen to us and you have very disordered thinking that is going to hurt you. You need to fix your thought processes first.
  • estherdragonbat
    estherdragonbat Posts: 5,283 Member
    Actually, they usually don't. You burn body fat in a calorie deficit. You build muscle in a calorie surplus. Lifting while in a deficit helps you hang onto the muscle mass you've already got, but (apart from some possible modest newbie gains), you're not going to build muscle while losing fat.

    Though, of course, if you burn fat and preserve muscle, your muscle mass percentage will increase. But not the amount of your muscle tissue.
  • jasonpoihegatama
    jasonpoihegatama Posts: 496 Member
    estherdragonbat wrote: »
    Actually, they usually don't. You burn body fat in a calorie deficit. You build muscle in a calorie surplus. Lifting while in a deficit helps you hang onto the muscle mass you've already got, but (apart from some possible modest newbie gains), you're not going to build muscle while losing fat.

    Though, of course, if you burn fat and preserve muscle, your muscle mass percentage will increase. But not the amount of your muscle tissue.

    So how about bodybuilders the eat 5000 cals and the body is muscle?
  • jasonpoihegatama
    jasonpoihegatama Posts: 496 Member
    If you don't eat enough calories then your body will eat itself and eat the muscle! also slow the metabolism and any food you eat will store as fat! then you will start to feel all the side effect of low cals. Sure you will lose weight in starvation.
  • estherdragonbat
    estherdragonbat Posts: 5,283 Member
    edited January 2019
    They're in a calorie surplus to build that muscle. They didn't start to build it until they stopped eating in a calorie deficit.
  • estherdragonbat
    estherdragonbat Posts: 5,283 Member
    jasonpoihegatama wrote: »
    If you don't eat enough calories then your body will eat itself and eat the muscle! also slow the metabolism and any food you eat will store as fat! then you will start to feel all the side effect of low cals. Sure you will lose weight in starvation.

    If you run too aggressive a deficit and don't incorporate resistance training, there is a risk of losing muscle, yes. But you don't store fat in a deficit. A deficit is the mechanism by which weight loss happens, so I'm not sure what point it is you're making. Losing 1/2lb per week when I've got 10lbs or so to goal isn't starvation.
  • estherdragonbat
    estherdragonbat Posts: 5,283 Member
    jodienovell wrote: »
    LOOK. I had a hard time yesterday with the decisions I need to make to reach my goal and accepting opinions. And I realized I was very wrong. I know I neednto eat at least 1500 calories and I will. Im too terrified of being fat to not make the best decisions. Its not particularly fun and I would rather eat much less. But I will do it.

    I think a lot of us have been there. As long as you are eating less than you're burning, you aren't going to put on fat. This is a long-term plan. Slow progress usually lasts longer. Hang in there.

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