Raw Foodism

ellelit
ellelit Posts: 806 Member
edited September 19 in Health and Weight Loss
Hello, i was doing some reasearch on this, and it seemed realliy interesting. are there any raw foodists out there?
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  • ellelit
    ellelit Posts: 806 Member
    Hello, i was doing some reasearch on this, and it seemed realliy interesting. are there any raw foodists out there?
  • EducatedVegan
    EducatedVegan Posts: 58
    I'm vegan, not all raw, but I also have an interest in it, and incorporate lots of raw recipes in my diet. Mind sharing why you have an interest in it, and what you've learned so far about it? It's always neat to talk to other people with similar interests.
  • songbyrdsweet
    songbyrdsweet Posts: 5,691 Member
    elle, did you close your other members thread? :huh: I mean it was somewhat tongue in cheek but I don't see why it's locked...
  • ivykivy
    ivykivy Posts: 2,970 Member
    It is interesting. I would never eat vegetables the way my mom and grandma cooked them but I found I can eat them they just have to me raw (spinach, tomatoes) or cooked for no more than a few minutes.

    I prefer my steak rare but I don't know about raw.
  • ellelit
    ellelit Posts: 806 Member
    well i've been having bad heartburn and bad stomach aches, and just stumbled across a site about raw food for weightloss. it seems like something i could do, but i would have to go veggie, then vegan and then raw; i dont think i could do it all at once. i like the idea of not having to cook LOL... but mainly interested because it seems like something i could maintain. not sure if i'm goignt o try it, but one of the main turning points for overcoming binge eating is to eliminate trigger food, and since pretty much everything i eat is a trigger food, i thought it might be worth a try.
  • AmyNVegas
    AmyNVegas Posts: 2,215 Member
    It was too strict for me so I just try to eat as clean as possible. Good Luck!:drinker:

    Amy:bigsmile:
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  • AmyNVegas
    AmyNVegas Posts: 2,215 Member
    elle, did you close your other members thread? :huh: I mean it was somewhat tongue in cheek but I don't see why it's locked...

    I was wondering too. What is up with that?

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  • Dave198lbs
    Dave198lbs Posts: 8,810 Member
    raw is REALLY tough to do totally....it can get discouraging it is so hard....I eat as clearn as I can and as raw as makes sense...I think this is one of those moderation is best types of regimens, plus I beleive we need meat protein and dont want to tick off the vegans,....but dont set yourself up for something so tough.....lots of info on the web for raw...it has its beneifts for sure but tough to do
  • Dave198lbs
    Dave198lbs Posts: 8,810 Member
    elle, did you close your other members thread? :huh: I mean it was somewhat tongue in cheek but I don't see why it's locked...

    I was wondering too. What is up with that?

    Amy:bigsmile:
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    what is a locked thread?
  • ivykivy
    ivykivy Posts: 2,970 Member
    About the locked thread...
    Maybe it was seen as a little divisive considering the previous thread.



    About Raw foodism....
    was reading it included meats also. Am I wrong?
  • AmyNVegas
    AmyNVegas Posts: 2,215 Member
    Threads that have the little lock beside the title. No one can respond to it once it is locked. They are locked if they break the forum rules or if it gets to 500 replies.

    Amy:bigsmile:
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  • AmyNVegas
    AmyNVegas Posts: 2,215 Member
    About the locked thread...
    Maybe it was seen as a little divisive considering the previous thread.



    About Raw foodism....
    was reading it included meats also. Am I wrong?

    No true raw only includes nuts no cooked foods which means not even cooked beans.
  • Sapporo
    Sapporo Posts: 693 Member
    I was about to post in that thread too. What forum rule would it break? I don't get it.
  • Dave198lbs
    Dave198lbs Posts: 8,810 Member
    I was about to post in that thread too. What forum rule would it break? I don't get it.

    well it was so close to the original that it mimicked I guess it might have caused trouble?
  • Sapporo
    Sapporo Posts: 693 Member
    I was about to post in that thread too. What forum rule would it break? I don't get it.

    well it was so close to the original that it mimicked I guess it might have caused trouble?

    Oh I see... didn't make the connection at first. Nevermind then.
  • Dave198lbs
    Dave198lbs Posts: 8,810 Member
    I was about to post in that thread too. What forum rule would it break? I don't get it.

    well it was so close to the original that it mimicked I guess it might have caused trouble?

    Oh I see... didn't make the connection at first. Nevermind then.

    I am guessing is all....does the original poster get notified?
  • ellelit
    ellelit Posts: 806 Member
    my understanding is that raw foodism includes only raw, living foods. there are some sub-types that include raw meat (like beef carpaccio and sashimi). i also understand that there are no beans or soy in the diet, although you can eat the bean "sprouts".

    i've also read that the "not enough protein" in the diet is a myth, as vegetables have enough protein to keep the body functioning optimally (i'm not a doctor, but this is what i have reasearched...)
  • Dave198lbs
    Dave198lbs Posts: 8,810 Member
    my understanding is that raw foodism includes only raw, living foods. there are some sub-types that include raw meat (like beef carpaccio and sashimi). i also understand that there are no beans or soy in the diet, although you can eat the bean "sprouts".

    i've also read that the "not enough protein" in the diet is a myth, as vegetables have enough protein to keep the body functioning optimally (i'm not a doctor, but this is what i have reasearched...)

    well if you want to try it I wont discourage you but for me, it is too tough and I love red meat and I dont buy that vegan philosophy about the protein angle
    good luck
    Dave
  • EducatedVegan
    EducatedVegan Posts: 58
    Raw *would* be tough. But you're a tough girl, aren't ya? :tongue:


    So do you think you'd like to go raw indefinitely? You're right about going veggie, then vegan, then raw- that would most definitely be the best way to ease yourself into it. In fact, you might want to find a book to help you. My sister had a book called The Gradual Vegetarian, and there are probably similar ones for going vegan, and maybe even raw.

    One thing you might enjoy starting on now, especially with the delicious summer season coming around, is to have fruit for breakfast every morning. It does wonders for your mood and your digestive tract. I keep Texas ruby red grapefruits on hand, as well as strawberries, apples, bananas- and then whatever is in season- pears, peaches, kiwi, mango, papaya, melon, berries, pineapple...
  • EducatedVegan
    EducatedVegan Posts: 58
    It's not "vegan philosophy," it's science. :wink:
  • Fitness_Chick
    Fitness_Chick Posts: 6,648 Member
    I was about to post in that thread too. What forum rule would it break? I don't get it.
    elle, did you close your other members thread? :huh: I mean it was somewhat tongue in cheek but I don't see why it's locked...

    I was wondering too. What is up with that?

    Amy:bigsmile:
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    Here's the quote from mike on the thread concerning the 2nd thread started to mimic the originator of the clean eating:heart: thread.
    " Starting sarcastic protest threads isn't productive.
    Thanks for listening, and hope you're all enjoying the site. "
  • Fitness_Chick
    Fitness_Chick Posts: 6,648 Member
    I was about to post in that thread too. What forum rule would it break? I don't get it.

    well it was so close to the original that it mimicked I guess it might have caused trouble?

    Oh I see... didn't make the connection at first. Nevermind then.

    I am guessing is all....does the original poster get notified?
    oh yea! they'll know! He's good about notifying, might not always give a reason but the reason is usually ovious by the time it's locked.

    But that's now water under the bridge:wink: Whew:tongue:

    ..I saw the question and just now happened to see His response from earlier tonight that's why I shared it.

    FC:heart:
  • Dave198lbs
    Dave198lbs Posts: 8,810 Member
    It's not "vegan philosophy," it's science. :wink:

    I truly appreciate the approach as far as animal cruelty and such and yes, there is science arguments for both sides....my Mom is a vegan since she was like 2 years old, my Gram (her Mom) was as well and they grew up on a farm and Gramps was a red meat eatin monster of a man...my Mom is 78 and healthier than I am....so I am not knockin it...but Raw is tough :smile:
  • EducatedVegan
    EducatedVegan Posts: 58
    Wow that is a very interesting family history! I've gotta admit, both your mother and grandmother are more hard core than I am! Veganism was pretty much unheard of back then I bet...

    And yes, raw would be really tough. I'm interested in researching it a little more thoroughly. It absolutely makes sense, on several points, that it would be healthier for you. I'd like to see research though not just cited on raw websites. I haven't really done a lot of research on it. I do try incorporate raw foods in my diet, and I think I'll try to more and more. One of my veg cookbooks has a raw section, so maybe I'll even try a few of those recipes.
  • songbyrdsweet
    songbyrdsweet Posts: 5,691 Member
    my understanding is that raw foodism includes only raw, living foods. there are some sub-types that include raw meat (like beef carpaccio and sashimi). i also understand that there are no beans or soy in the diet, although you can eat the bean "sprouts".

    i've also read that the "not enough protein" in the diet is a myth, as vegetables have enough protein to keep the body functioning optimally (i'm not a doctor, but this is what i have reasearched...)

    It's not the amount of protein that's the issue, but getting sufficient complete proteins from the diet. All vegetables (except for a certain type of algae) contain incomplete proteins, meaning they don't contain all the essential amino acids we need (the ones our bodies can't produce). So while you can get sufficient grams of protein, you have to pair certain foods to create complete proteins, like bread with cheese and rice with beans. Vegans are at the greatest risk for malnutrition because they don't consume any animal products. I'm not saying it's more or less healthy than an omnivorous diet, it just takes more planning and attention to nutrients.
  • iclimbmountains
    iclimbmountains Posts: 12
    I have wanted to try going raw for a LONG time, and we did try for a little while. The biggest problem in my opinion (past that addiction and longing for comfort from warm, cooked foods) is the need for preparation. I mean, to have variety so that you don't get bored with being raw, you need all the tools: juicer, temperature controlled dehydrator, etc. And you have to prepare your meals every day virtually, there isn't a lot of large batches for the rest of the week or leftovers, because it starts to go bad quickly.

    But I have heard /amazing/ things from people who have gone raw and stayed raw for many MANY years, and I wish I had the time to do it. But alas, for now I just have to settle with eating as much raw in my daily diet.

    And remember, you can 'cook' raw, it just can't go over 118 degrees, which is when the nutrients and enzymes start deteriorating. So there is 'raw' bread, 'raw' dried fruit, 'raw' crackers, 'raw' pie, etc. They're all just cooked /very/ slowly, and usually in a controllable dehydrator.
  • EducatedVegan
    EducatedVegan Posts: 58
    my understanding is that raw foodism includes only raw, living foods. there are some sub-types that include raw meat (like beef carpaccio and sashimi). i also understand that there are no beans or soy in the diet, although you can eat the bean "sprouts".

    i've also read that the "not enough protein" in the diet is a myth, as vegetables have enough protein to keep the body functioning optimally (i'm not a doctor, but this is what i have reasearched...)

    It's not the amount of protein that's the issue, but getting sufficient complete proteins from the diet. All vegetables (except for a certain type of algae) contain incomplete proteins, meaning they don't contain all the essential amino acids we need (the ones our bodies can't produce). So while you can get sufficient grams of protein, you have to pair certain foods to create complete proteins, like bread with cheese and rice with beans. Vegans are at the greatest risk for malnutrition because they don't consume any animal products. I'm not saying it's more or less healthy than an omnivorous diet, it just takes more planning and attention to nutrients.



    Fortunately, spinach and kale (followed closely by other greens) contain 45-49% protein. There is no doubt that someone who eats a diet high in raw leafy green vegetables, a wide assortment of all other kinds of vegetables, beans, seeds, and whole grains, will not be lacking in protein. To say that vegans are at the greatest risk for malnutrition is a pretty broad stroke. Especially since it seems like most people who become vegan are very into nutritional awareness and self-education. And actually, I still wouldn't hesitate to say that a vegan who is *not* especially concerned with counting grams and calories is a stretch "healthier" than a person consuming the Standard American Diet.

    -Meredith
  • LeanLioness
    LeanLioness Posts: 1,091 Member
    I am learning about Raw Food diets................Trying to incorporate a LOT of raw foods into my eating plan -

    I am learning the Low Carb Way of Life and trying to do as much Raw foods (vegetables, fruits and nuts) mainly.............I figured if I can get 50-60% of my diet a day in as raw foods, then I am living lovely!!!

    On one of the Low Carb Websites I belong to, we are discussing it in the Organic Living section of the Bulletin Board.

    There are some sites that one of the members recommended and she is Living a Low Carb lifestyle and says that about 50% of her diet is comprised of raw foods............

    She also has a recipe for a green smoothie that she drinks everyday and she says She feels better than she ever has in her life.

    Send me a note if you are interested in the sites. i will note them to you.
  • Dave198lbs
    Dave198lbs Posts: 8,810 Member
    I am learning about Raw Food diets................Trying to incorporate a LOT of raw foods into my eating plan -

    I am learning the Low Carb Way of Life and trying to do as much Raw foods (vegetables, fruits and nuts) mainly.............I figured if I can get 50-60% of my diet a day in as raw foods, then I am living lovely!!!

    On one of the Low Carb Websites I belong to, we are discussing it in the Organic Living section of the Bulletin Board.

    There are some sites that one of the members recommended and she is Living a Low Carb lifestyle and says that about 50% of her diet is comprised of raw foods............

    She also has a recipe for a green smoothie that she drinks everyday and she says She feels better than she ever has in her life.

    Send me a note if you are interested in the sites. i will note them to you.

    interested in the green smoothie...do you have the details?
    thanks
    Dave
  • EducatedVegan
    EducatedVegan Posts: 58
    What do you mean by Low-Carb life? Like, less processed simple carbs? Or less wheat? Or literally a lower percent of caloric intake coming from carbs?
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