For those on the Keto diet...
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Just out of curiosity, why so many woos in response to GayleHawkins comments? I think I read that it is a negative reaction...not sure what would cause this negativity. I thought he was just sharing what worked for him and how his way of eating has helped him, I like to think that this is a supportive network. what am I missing?... I am honestly just curious to understand.. )
I noticed you already got 5 "woos" on your honest question about "woos". Welcome to MFP, the "woo" capital of the world! Personally, I think if someone "woos" something said, there should be a requirement that they have to explain why they used their "woo" power. Of course, some people will "woo" just about anything.
I look forward to a few "woos" on this post.8 -
I think people on keto are superhuman.
I tried keto for a day wow.
Keto is not for everyone, nor does it need to be. I did South Beach Phase 1 (the teal book) for less than a week in 2005 or so and it wasn't for me, and I am fine with that.
I am happy for the people who find keto a good fit for them.
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GaleHawkins wrote: »https://stemcellorthopedic.com/stem-cells-and-the-ketogenic-diet/
For those interested in the health benefits of a ketogenic diet and how it can help prevent premature physical and mental decline the link above covers the subject. The weight loss is a side effect that often is not enough to keep one doing keto or even to get into ketosis. In my case I had to accept the fact at the age of 63 that I was a hard core abuser of processed carbs and that the addiction had to be addressed before keto was going to be an option to start my health recovery. It was a hellish two weeks in Oct 2014 when cold turkey I finally left all foods containing added sugars and or any form of any grain in my personal case and after the first 30 days is was getting easier and my pain level was dropping like a rock. 4.5 years later I am living proof to my family that keto works well to help extend my quality of life and not be such a physical burden on the family caring for my needs.
Gale, I don't woo you. I read that link. I took my leisurely time doing so, and got to the last paragraph a few minutes ago. Over the past 2 weeks I've had more days failing than succeeding at keto. That last paragraph, giving me permission for one of those fail days, made me grin.5 -
MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »Just out of curiosity, why so many woos in response to GayleHawkins comments? I think I read that it is a negative reaction...not sure what would cause this negativity. I thought he was just sharing what worked for him and how his way of eating has helped him, I like to think that this is a supportive network. what am I missing?... I am honestly just curious to understand.. )
Because a lot of the information was bad, as in incorrect and/or no basis in facts. No one disputes that keto works for a lot of people, but a lot of woo tends to follow along with it.
I have seen so many play with facts and studies to promote themselves or their cause.
Thats why i only listen to credible medical doctors and professors. It eliminates all the noise.
Ex. The woo people and other controlling groups5 -
I like to think that this is a supportive network. what am I missing?... I am honestly just curious to understand.. )
MFP is a very supportive site. Members of MFP support anyone working to become more fit; trying lose, maintain, or gain weight; trying to improve the nutrition they take in; working towards a better relationship with food; or anything else related. They also support any safe way someone chooses to reach their goals be it keto, IF, Weight Watchers, or any of the hundreds of "named" diets out there. What doesn't get support is any member promoting something unsafe (like a very low calorie diet or lengthy fasts) or making unsubstantiated claims about any particular diet or food that supposedly cures things like cancer (or making those kinds of claims with questionable sources).
Welcome! Enjoy and learn but make sure your critical thinking cap is on as you read through the forums.
Cool! Thank you for explaining to a woo newb ) I admit I hadn’t read the links provided and was going off him sharing his own personal results. I love the knowledge available here. 😊
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@azzeazsaleh5429 below is a 11 minute clip from Dr. Bruce Lipton who is a professor that teaches and does research that one of my doctors today told me to check out. About mid point he hits on why nutrition is one important factor to good health and longevity that you and others with interest in longevity based on known science today may find of interest.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=vEfXK3D8vGc
@JeromeBarry1 that last line drives home a good point in the link you were talking about. We do not need to make Keto or any other WOE into another religion like cult. After 4.5 years of Keto I have learned there are many ways of doing it and it does not have to be a full time thing even. My Keto research is getting down to what is going on at a cellular level. The quantum physics/mechanics aspect is mind blowing. The human body is wonderful and it is full of unknowns for sure.7 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »
@Sasa4u welcome to MFP forums and thank you for your concern but Woo is without any real meaning other than some anonymous person does not like a post for any reason under the sun.
Life was slipping away from me in 2014 when Google found a Keto article on MFP. I did earn my OD degree in 1986 from Southern College of Optometry in Memphis TN but my arthritis (Ankylosing Spondylitis) was so advanced by that time I got in daily therapy but had to have both hips replaced a few years later and a never worked as an OD. I threw myself into reading all of the research that I could find to prevent my mobility from totally grinding to a halt and trying to stay mobile enough to still walk OK and be able to drive a car. Tomorrow I will be in therapy for most of the day since on Thursdays I have 3 three sessions in two different towns. On Mondays and Tuesdays I only have one session each day. Reversing arthritis is a slow and painful process because it had a 40 year head start but at 68 my health, mobility and health markers are better than 20 years ago.
Back to your Woo question I have noticed when article links from professional health sources are included in a post there are going to be a few Woo's so I just ignore them since they have no known meaning. I only make posts that are medically factual to the point that I expect to be able to defend them in a court of law. If I miss post I will correct it when someone provides a source that shows with science why I am wrong.
It it comes to WOE's (Way Of Eating) there is no one way even for the same person. I post what is working in my case at the time of my post but never tell others how they should eat yet there are a few that are willing to tell me my WOE is wrong for me.
Now that I have been able to reverse some serious health issues by changing my way of thinking (by reading research), eating and moving therefore preventing a near term total health failure I have moved to working on longevity factors (plan to be walking and talking at my 110th birthday party) and how I need to modify my WOE based on new research. I spend 20+ hours a week reading all of the science I can find and tonight I ordered three new books that were mention by a very smart doctor in a Youtube video concerning gut microbiota after learning the danger of eating red meat due to a normal gut microbiota function.
Best of success in meeting your objectives.
I’m glad you’ve found success Gayle! Thank you for your encouragement 😊1 -
patrickaa5 wrote: »Just out of curiosity, why so many woos in response to GayleHawkins comments? I think I read that it is a negative reaction...not sure what would cause this negativity. I thought he was just sharing what worked for him and how his way of eating has helped him, I like to think that this is a supportive network. what am I missing?... I am honestly just curious to understand.. )
I noticed you already got 5 "woos" on your honest question about "woos". Welcome to MFP, the "woo" capital of the world! Personally, I think if someone "woos" something said, there should be a requirement that they have to explain why they used their "woo" power. Of course, some people will "woo" just about anything.
I look forward to a few "woos" on this post.
I see that! 😆 5 woos ) oh well we can’t please everyone.
‘Woo power’ ... I like that )
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I started keto January 7th I have lost around 8kgs/18lbs. After about 6 weeks I was beginning to get sick of eating the same food and have missed fruit and the occasional cracker etc. I have since added these back in and find I am still losing. I am much happier since adjusting my carb intake.5
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have been doing Keto for years. It is one of the easiest LIFESTYLES......for me anyway. I dont call it a diet its just the way i eat. We all know the hardest thing about any new way of eating is being able to stick with it long term. Trust me i know how hard it is for anyone starting keto. Its hard because for most of you your whole life your body has been programed to burn CARBS for fuel. Now your only feeding it 20-30 carbs and thats through green veggies. It takes a week or two for your body to say " OK this SOB is not going to feed me carbs so im going to burn this fat." When you get to this point it is true what they say you lose your hunger totally.
I go by the 70-25-5 rule 70%-fat,25%-protein,5%-carbs. I also intermittent fast for 16 hours, so i eat in a 8-hour window. Here is my thoughts on IF. When you are feeeding your body every 3 hours whats it going to think "Got this food to burn thanks." Now if im fasted whats your body going to think" This MF is not feeding me so ill burn what he has lots of ......fat" Its funny writing this because I think of it as me vs my body LOL. In a way it kinda is MIND over BODY.
My must haves are
eggs,bacon,spanich,avocado,coconut oil,cheese, and butter. I have these things probably about every day.
Wife is calling so need to wrap this up any question about anything just friend me and hit me up. I am always willing to help any one that wants to live the LOW CARB LIFE15 -
have been doing Keto for years. It is one of the easiest LIFESTYLES......for me anyway. I dont call it a diet its just the way i eat. We all know the hardest thing about any new way of eating is being able to stick with it long term. Trust me i know how hard it is for anyone starting keto. Its hard because for most of you your whole life your body has been programed to burn CARBS for fuel. Now your only feeding it 20-30 carbs and thats through green veggies. It takes a week or two for your body to say " OK this SOB is not going to feed me carbs so im going to burn this fat." When you get to this point it is true what they say you lose your hunger totally.
I go by the 70-25-5 rule 70%-fat,25%-protein,5%-carbs. I also intermittent fast for 16 hours, so i eat in a 8-hour window. Here is my thoughts on IF. When you are feeeding your body every 3 hours whats it going to think "Got this food to burn thanks." Now if im fasted whats your body going to think" This MF is not feeding me so ill burn what he has lots of ......fat" Its funny writing this because I think of it as me vs my body LOL. In a way it kinda is MIND over BODY.
My must haves are
eggs,bacon,spanich,avocado,coconut oil,cheese, and butter. I have these things probably about every day.
Wife is calling so need to wrap this up any question about anything just friend me and hit me up. I am always willing to help any one that wants to live the LOW CARB LIFE
When you put it this way!
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What does keto have to do with eating every 3 hours or not? Many of us who don't do keto never ate every 3 hours or wanted to. I typically eat at 6, 12, and 9, and many others skip breakfast or have other eating patterns that don't involve constant mini meals or snacks. That's a personal preference and a totally separate thing from keto.
Re keto, I think it's a good fit for some. It didn't have any particular benefits for me, and I prefer not to make some nutrient dense foods I like basically off limits or stress because I can easily go over 35 net carbs from just non starchy veg, avocado, and some nuts.8 -
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So is low carb and keto the same thing?
Keto is more strict in the sense that you can’t go over a certain amount of carbs?
Low carb is less strict? -Like your basic don’t eat pasta, no bread. Maybe just one slice of bread?0 -
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GaleHawkins wrote: »
Thank you!0 -
Please note this OP is asking for feedback from people with personal experience with Keto diet. If this applies to you, please join the conversation. If it doesn't, if you are here to debate the merits of Keto, woo people, or otherwise derail from the intent of the discussion, please move on or we will warn you and remove your post. And I know we all have better things to do this weekend.
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I just completed 6 months of keto.
I lost for the first 4 and a half months, and have been at a stall weight wise for the last 7 weeks, but I keep dropping inches.
Started at 178. Currently 159.4 -
what macros do you recommend for keto?
carb 50 grams per day
fat ? grams
protein ? grams0 -
Hey @goldengirl111 - I see you have posted on a few older threads, which is fine to do, but you may not get the answers you are looking for. I suggest you join this low carb group, which has a lot of info about keto as well: https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum1
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