eating very healthy, exercising regularly, gaining weight, always hungry
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kshama2001 wrote: »I feel like everyone is missing the point here and that I may not have expressed my concern. As a I am obviously recovering from an eating disorder, I can not count calories. But the main point I’m trying to make is that IF I exercise regularly (in which case I am definitely burning 2500 a day) then I eat insatiably. I am always hungry. And given that I’d like to lose a little weight, I feel stuck because my body doesnt seem to want to let that happen at all.
Probably the best people to discuss this with then is your treatment team.
I agree. This was a total waste of time.
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kshama2001 wrote: »I feel like everyone is missing the point here and that I may not have expressed my concern. As a I am obviously recovering from an eating disorder, I can not count calories. But the main point I’m trying to make is that IF I exercise regularly (in which case I am definitely burning 2500 a day) then I eat insatiably. I am always hungry. And given that I’d like to lose a little weight, I feel stuck because my body doesnt seem to want to let that happen at all.
Probably the best people to discuss this with then is your treatment team.
I agree. This was a total waste of time.
Well, you got what you paid for.13 -
kshama2001 wrote: »I feel like everyone is missing the point here and that I may not have expressed my concern. As a I am obviously recovering from an eating disorder, I can not count calories. But the main point I’m trying to make is that IF I exercise regularly (in which case I am definitely burning 2500 a day) then I eat insatiably. I am always hungry. And given that I’d like to lose a little weight, I feel stuck because my body doesnt seem to want to let that happen at all.
Probably the best people to discuss this with then is your treatment team.
I agree. This was a total waste of time.
I'm sorry that people tried to give you answers that were true, accurate and helpful, rather than psychically divining the ones you wanted. I'd discuss the 'I don't listen to dietary/appetite advice that I don't like' issue with your treatment team too, if I were you.15 -
I feel like everyone is missing the point here and that I may not have expressed my concern. As a I am obviously recovering from an eating disorder, I can not count calories. But the main point I’m trying to make is that IF I exercise regularly (in which case I am definitely burning 2500 a day) then I eat insatiably. I am always hungry. And given that I’d like to lose a little weight, I feel stuck because my body doesnt seem to want to let that happen at all.
Unfortunately for your purposes, this is a forum for a calorie counting website, so most of the advice you get is going to be from people who were successful because they counted calories (there are some other types of people here, but they're in the minority). If you can't count calories due to your ED, then it would probably be best to discuss your weight management concerns with your treatment team.9 -
kshama2001 wrote: »I feel like everyone is missing the point here and that I may not have expressed my concern. As a I am obviously recovering from an eating disorder, I can not count calories. But the main point I’m trying to make is that IF I exercise regularly (in which case I am definitely burning 2500 a day) then I eat insatiably. I am always hungry. And given that I’d like to lose a little weight, I feel stuck because my body doesnt seem to want to let that happen at all.
Probably the best people to discuss this with then is your treatment team.
I agree. This was a total waste of time.
Just because you don’t like the answers doesn’t make them wrong.
Talk to your treatment team.7 -
Are you getting enough water?
That would be my first question since I learned here on MFP a few years back, that dehydration can disguise itself as hunger. That's not a quote, but it worked for me and I started drinking my water for the day. Also, what makes me feel those hunger pains depends on "what" foods I'm eating. I don't know what it is in pizza for example, but the day after I eat that I wake up starving (or so I feel like I am, lol). Sugars do the same thing. Maybe too much bread, flours, pastas.3 -
janejellyroll wrote: »One thing to consider since you're eating mostly whole foods: are you getting enough fat? I find that I'm especially hungry when I try to eat a low fat diet.
I would second this. Also, as @ceiswyn was saying, hunger is often psychological. I often feel hungry when I'm bored or stressed, even if I've eaten exactly the same as I always do, and no amount of food will fix it because it isn't about food.
If you are getting enough protein, fat, and fiber and are constantly hungry and not losing weight, either it isn't real hunger and you need to explore what is going on in your head, or you might have a health issue that needs checking into.
I think this has probably helped me too, adding good oils like Olive and coconut for just two. I don't have any hunger pains between meals any more at all.0 -
I would look into set point theory if I were you. It sounds to me like this is more of a body peace/body acceptance issue than a 'how do i lose weight' issue. Good luck friend! We're all in this together.20
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Set point theory's been debunked: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2990627/
http://www.weightymatters.ca/2010/12/set-point-theory-is-stupid.html
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Sar,
I have had the exact same experiences as you. I do believe it’s possible to disrupt your hunger/satiety signals (possibly permanently) due to ED behaviors. Something I struggle with is knowing what a normal portion is because of all the years of binging. When I eat a normal portion size, I do not feel “full” and a fear creeps in that I am restricting. EDs affect our mental, physical, an emotional relationship with food. We constantly try to make sense out of it, but it doesn’t work. Something that has helped me is to learn how to distinguish my body being hungry from the urge to eat (like a craving). I exercise a lot (2 hours, 6 days a week); this causes me to want to eat above my maintenance calories. I dislike counting calories because it puts me in a restrictive mindset and I start to believe I’m not getting enough food, regardless of the calorie counts. But if a don’t count, I will easily consume 2700-3000 per day, which is well over my TDEE. The bottom line is it takes time to develop habits that promote weight maintenance (or healthy weight loss). We don’t know how to judge normal intake from binging sometimes. And it takes a daily effort to heal from ED behaviors and the screwy mindset. Be patient with yourself and feel free to add me as a friend if you need support from someone who understands your struggle.
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If I'm eating at maintenance or below (aka in a deficit to lose), I am hungry. A LOT.
I mostly blame this on the fact that, into my early 30's, I was very active, had very active jobs, and spent a lot of time on my feet doing physical labor. I could basically eat what I wanted, and easily maintained my weight on close to 3,000 calories a day.
I got a desk job, hobbies changed, and the physical labor went away. My appetite, however, has yet to adjust very well. I can feel satisfied after a meal, but I am definitely hungry long before it's actually time to eat again. Oh, and it's been over 8 years since I got my first desk job....
Drinking lots of water helps - and I found that I do much better with fizzy water rather than flat. This helps with the "boredom" eating.
I've added a fair number of steps to most of my days to up my TDEE.
I'm still hungry most days. This is something I've just had to learn to accept. I'm going to be hungry 1-2 hours after I eat, and a small snack won't satisfy. So, I just accept that this is the case.
As for exercise, steady state cardio makes me very hungry, but I do better on more varying and weight lifting type workouts and my increased hunger is more in line with the increased activity.
Maybe you're just going to have to get used to being hungry? Or experiment with some different eating patterns, not necessarily reducing your overall intake, but you may find it easier to eat less with a different eating pattern. I find higher protein, volume from veggies, some (but not a major portion of my calories) carbs, and making sure I get enough fat in my diet to be pretty essential to maintaining a deficit and not being *I can't focus* hungry.1 -
Low carb high fat keto gives you tremendous appetite control.12
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JohnnyPenso wrote: »Low carb high fat keto gives you tremendous appetite control.
Correction. Low carb high fat keto gives YOU tremendous appetite control. That doesn't mean it works for everybody. I have better appetite control with a high carb and high fibre intake.13
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