Has anyone quit Whole Wheat breads because of hives?
MissDenise1952
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I can't seem to figure out this hives thing I have had for about the last year. Mine don't break out in a red rash, just welts. They start with a pinpoint feeling of burning itch, and if I scratch it or it gets rubbed against sheets in bed etc. it turns to welts. They don't last long because if I am awake, which they do wake me, I dab alcohol on, and it stops the itching almost instantly.
There are a couple of things I eat that make me wonder if it's those things causing it, but I haven't knuckled down and stopped eating either. Whole Wheat bread, and Stevia. I've eaten both for years, but I understand that could still be the cause. I have changed out soaps (both laundry and body wash types) with no difference.
Anyway, I'd just like to know if anyone gets this type of hives, just itchy welts etc. Not like the type that lasts for long and makes an awful red rash. Thanks in advance if you could share what you discovered was causing your hives like mine;)
There are a couple of things I eat that make me wonder if it's those things causing it, but I haven't knuckled down and stopped eating either. Whole Wheat bread, and Stevia. I've eaten both for years, but I understand that could still be the cause. I have changed out soaps (both laundry and body wash types) with no difference.
Anyway, I'd just like to know if anyone gets this type of hives, just itchy welts etc. Not like the type that lasts for long and makes an awful red rash. Thanks in advance if you could share what you discovered was causing your hives like mine;)
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A friend of mine at work did and she got tested and it was a gluten thing.2
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I don't want to alarm you but if you are primarily getting them while you are sleeping and they wake you up it could be bed bugs. Not the most likely scenario but I speak from experience. When I was about 14 I would wake up everyday with hives on my legs and arms. It turned out I was having an allergic reaction to bed bug bites.
Are the hives mainly on your extremities, this is typically where bed bugs bite? Do you have any small black stains on your sheets?
Again, this is probably unlikely for you but I wanted to make you aware. It took months before I could figure out why I had hives and by then it was a bad infestation. I really really hope this is not what you have but just as a precaution inspect your sheets tonight for any small black dots as these are a sign of bed bugs.
Good luck!
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cwolfman13 wrote: »A friend of mine at work did and she got tested and it was a gluten thing.
No kidding?? I've got to try and break away from the bread. I bet I'd know within a week or so, of any difference! Thanks for sharing that info.0 -
Fitnessgirl0913 wrote: »I don't want to alarm you but if you are primarily getting them while you are sleeping and they wake you up it could be bed bugs. Not the most likely scenario but I speak from experience. When I was about 14 I would wake up everyday with hives on my legs and arms. It turned out I was having an allergic reaction to bed bug bites.
Are the hives mainly on your extremities, this is typically where bed bugs bite? Do you have any small black stains on your sheets?
Again, this is probably unlikely for you but I wanted to make you aware. It took months before I could figure out why I had hives and by then it was a bad infestation. I really really hope this is not what you have but just as a precaution inspect your sheets tonight for any small black dots as these are a sign of bed bugs.
Good luck!
That was my first thought as well, or another type of bug. My daughter started having weird rashes/hive type stuff happening-come to find out it was spider bites from an infestation in our old house (grossest thing ever!!). She was getting bit at night (she had an upstairs/attic type bedroom and was only one sleeping up there)-we had no clue, until we found the buggers and put two and two together. Got rid of the infestation and she was fine after that-craziest thing!
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I'm not alarmed, it isn't bedbugs. That thought has long since been eliminated. I don't primarily get them at night, more so in a.m. and the rest of the day. Also at night when sitting watching a show, or playing on here.0
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MissDenise1952 wrote: »I'm not alarmed, it isn't bedbugs. That thought has long since been eliminated. I don't primarily get them at night, more so in a.m. and the rest of the day. Also at night when sitting watching a show, or playing on here.
Phew! So glad you can eliminate that! I would not wish bed bugs on my worst enemy.6 -
MissDenise1952 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »A friend of mine at work did and she got tested and it was a gluten thing.
No kidding?? I've got to try and break away from the bread. I bet I'd know within a week or so, of any difference! Thanks for sharing that info.
Gluten in general...not just bread. Gluten is in a lot of things. If this is the cause, it's a fairly minor reaction. My friend can still eat some gluten, but she has to watch it or she will break out in hives.3 -
This photo is the only one on a google search that shows what mine look like, but the pic is about 10 x worse than mine are. They never get that far for me. But the welts only show up like that from me scratching which I stop them at the first sign dabbing a bit of alcohol. It stops them but I'm not about to be doing that the rest of my life;)
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I get similar hives almost every day. Just one or two a day, usually on my neck, chest, stomach, or back. I have also tried different laundry detergents, shampoos, etc. I get them whether I'm at home or out of town, so it's not something unique to my house or work environment.
It's probably food-related, but they are not annoying enough to me to go through an elimination diet to figure out what it is.1 -
recommend getting allergy testing done - but you need to do it before doing any kind of elimnation period - or you can get false positives10
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deannalfisher wrote: »recommend getting allergy testing done - but you need to do it before doing any kind of elimnation period - or you can get false positives
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cwolfman13 wrote: »MissDenise1952 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »A friend of mine at work did and she got tested and it was a gluten thing.
No kidding?? I've got to try and break away from the bread. I bet I'd know within a week or so, of any difference! Thanks for sharing that info.
Gluten in general...not just bread. Gluten is in a lot of things. If this is the cause, it's a fairly minor reaction. My friend can still eat some gluten, but she has to watch it or she will break out in hives.
I know that's true, gluten being in many things. Also MSG under other names. I haven't been as vigilant as I should be when grocery shopping(reading all labels). If I want to figure this out, I'm going to have to be though. Another thing I pray that it's not, is a nut allergy. I figured milk and other dairy wasn't good because of my Silent Reflux issue, so I buy Almond Milk. The coconut milk is too thin for me but I don't know. May have to try that too, eliminating nuts:(
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deannalfisher wrote: »recommend getting allergy testing done - but you need to do it before doing any kind of elimnation period - or you can get false positives
Ok, man, last time I had that done they said they never saw anyone that was allergic to so many things. But it was all environmental. This was years ago, long before any hives.
I may need to do it again though. Maybe they've learned some things since then;)
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MissDenise1952 wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »recommend getting allergy testing done - but you need to do it before doing any kind of elimnation period - or you can get false positives
Ok, man, last time I had that done they said they never saw anyone that was allergic to so many things. But it was all environmental. This was years ago, long before any hives.
I may need to do it again though. Maybe they've learned some things since then;)
You can develop new allergies at any time so that's probably a good place to start. Hopefully you'll get some answers soon!5 -
Our biggest issue was laundry soap. All 3 of my kids are now allergic to TIDE detergent. One is also allergic to several body soaps and we have switched as a household to a milder basic body soap. Another is allergic to Neosporin. I also had an allergic reaction to a prescription multivitamin. The doctor said it was more likely the binding agent used and to be careful about switching brands or formulas. I’d definitely go see the doctor and keep Benadryl on hand.2
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MissDenise1952 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »MissDenise1952 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »A friend of mine at work did and she got tested and it was a gluten thing.
No kidding?? I've got to try and break away from the bread. I bet I'd know within a week or so, of any difference! Thanks for sharing that info.
Gluten in general...not just bread. Gluten is in a lot of things. If this is the cause, it's a fairly minor reaction. My friend can still eat some gluten, but she has to watch it or she will break out in hives.
I know that's true, gluten being in many things. Also MSG under other names. I haven't been as vigilant as I should be when grocery shopping(reading all labels). If I want to figure this out, I'm going to have to be though. Another thing I pray that it's not, is a nut allergy. I figured milk and other dairy wasn't good because of my Silent Reflux issue, so I buy Almond Milk. The coconut milk is too thin for me but I don't know. May have to try that too, eliminating nuts:(
Wouldn't it be easier to have allergy testing done to find out what (if anything) you need to eliminate from your diet? It may not even be food-related.7 -
MissDenise1952 wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »recommend getting allergy testing done - but you need to do it before doing any kind of elimnation period - or you can get false positives
Ok, man, last time I had that done they said they never saw anyone that was allergic to so many things. But it was all environmental. This was years ago, long before any hives.
I may need to do it again though. Maybe they've learned some things since then;)
If you haven't noticed a pattern in when they show up (with specific foods), I would suspect a new environmental allergy, particularly if you already have a bunch. Have you changed any of your cleaning products lately? Laundry detergent, fabric softener, etc? Have any of them changed their formula lately?
I agree with the others who are suggesting allergy testing.3 -
I had something very similar to the image you posted. Anywhere something touched my skin, I would get angry red welts--around my waist where my clothes hit, under my bra straps, etc. In the morning I would wake up with my entire side enflamed from the pressure of sleeping on it all night. I, too, thought bed bugs, but that was not it. I don't have any notable allergies.
I went to a fancy Park Avenue dermatologist who thought it might be scabies--it wasn't that! Went to another doctor who right away diagnosed dermatographism (google it for some crazy images!). You are literally able to write on your skin with light pressure, it is caused by a build up of histamines. For me, the solution is as easy as taking an OTC antihistamine if I should ever have a flare up--it stops the hives immediately.
All that said--go see a doctor. They know best.4 -
I get hives from exercise. (No joke!)
It's worse in the winter if I exercise in cold weather and then come inside where it's warmer afterwards. On bad days it also affects my airways.
Do you ever notice any breathing difficulties when it happens or is just your skin affected? I would ask my doctor about it if I were you.3 -
emmamcgarity wrote: »Our biggest issue was laundry soap. All 3 of my kids are now allergic to TIDE detergent. One is also allergic to several body soaps and we have switched as a household to a milder basic body soap. Another is allergic to Neosporin. I also had an allergic reaction to a prescription multivitamin. The doctor said it was more likely the binding agent used and to be careful about switching brands or formulas. I’d definitely go see the doctor and keep Benadryl on hand.
I've been using Dr. Bonner's soap for awhile now. I also use Borax, and a real, basic detergent. What interested me most about your reply was the supplement ingredients. I have recently switched brands of my Magnesium. I'm going to look into that for sure because I already notice a difference (negative) after taking the KAL brand of Magnesium Glycinate which I felt was really helping me. Thanks for that reminder;)1 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »MissDenise1952 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »MissDenise1952 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »A friend of mine at work did and she got tested and it was a gluten thing.
No kidding?? I've got to try and break away from the bread. I bet I'd know within a week or so, of any difference! Thanks for sharing that info.
Gluten in general...not just bread. Gluten is in a lot of things. If this is the cause, it's a fairly minor reaction. My friend can still eat some gluten, but she has to watch it or she will break out in hives.
I know that's true, gluten being in many things. Also MSG under other names. I haven't been as vigilant as I should be when grocery shopping(reading all labels). If I want to figure this out, I'm going to have to be though. Another thing I pray that it's not, is a nut allergy. I figured milk and other dairy wasn't good because of my Silent Reflux issue, so I buy Almond Milk. The coconut milk is too thin for me but I don't know. May have to try that too, eliminating nuts:(
Wouldn't it be easier to have allergy testing done to find out what (if anything) you need to eliminate from your diet? It may not even be food-related.
That really depends on what sort of testing I can afford. I have insurance but I have to find out if it covers. Also, can they specifically test for gluten intolerance? And what if it's something they've used to make my supplements. I don't have a clue what all can actually be tested for at a doctor's office. Like I mentioned somewhere on this thread, I don't think it would take that long to notice a difference if I quit the gluten, which, as far as I can see right now, bread is the only gluten I eat.
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anthocyanina wrote: »I get hives from exercise. (No joke!)
It's worse in the winter if I exercise in cold weather and then come inside where it's warmer afterwards. On bad days it also affects my airways.
Do you ever notice any breathing difficulties when it happens or is just your skin affected? I would ask my doctor about it if I were you.
That's interesting, but no breathing issues. I never get them when I am moving around, I never thought of that until now
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nutmegoreo wrote: »MissDenise1952 wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »recommend getting allergy testing done - but you need to do it before doing any kind of elimnation period - or you can get false positives
Ok, man, last time I had that done they said they never saw anyone that was allergic to so many things. But it was all environmental. This was years ago, long before any hives.
I may need to do it again though. Maybe they've learned some things since then;)
If you haven't noticed a pattern in when they show up (with specific foods), I would suspect a new environmental allergy, particularly if you already have a bunch. Have you changed any of your cleaning products lately? Laundry detergent, fabric softener, etc? Have any of them changed their formula lately?
I agree with the others who are suggesting allergy testing.
It's pretty overwhelming to think about all I have to look at. I'm getting hives thinking about it
Why did I do this post 
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I had hives for two years. Finally, found out I had become allergic to wheat. I had to give up wheat 34 years ago. I don't get hives anymore since I stopped eating it. If, on a rare occasion, I cave in and eat something with wheat, the hives start again.0
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Go organic. Wheat is sprayed with roundup (glysophate) post-harvest as a desiccant.8
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Re: laundry detergents - I can use any major brand of unscented laundry detergent. I usually get Arm & Hammer Sensitive Skin because it is frequently on sale and/or there are coupons for it.
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The welts are caused by the scratching (see the picture of the histamine reaction, above). IT's not really a "hive" because it begins with itching and *then* moves to inflammation.
I'd read up on the histamine thing mentioned above. My kid has something similar, where if she starts scratching, every scratch leaves a line. Benadryl before bed pretty much fixed it.
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MissDenise1952 wrote: »snickerscharlie wrote: »MissDenise1952 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »MissDenise1952 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »A friend of mine at work did and she got tested and it was a gluten thing.
No kidding?? I've got to try and break away from the bread. I bet I'd know within a week or so, of any difference! Thanks for sharing that info.
Gluten in general...not just bread. Gluten is in a lot of things. If this is the cause, it's a fairly minor reaction. My friend can still eat some gluten, but she has to watch it or she will break out in hives.
I know that's true, gluten being in many things. Also MSG under other names. I haven't been as vigilant as I should be when grocery shopping(reading all labels). If I want to figure this out, I'm going to have to be though. Another thing I pray that it's not, is a nut allergy. I figured milk and other dairy wasn't good because of my Silent Reflux issue, so I buy Almond Milk. The coconut milk is too thin for me but I don't know. May have to try that too, eliminating nuts:(
Wouldn't it be easier to have allergy testing done to find out what (if anything) you need to eliminate from your diet? It may not even be food-related.
That really depends on what sort of testing I can afford. I have insurance but I have to find out if it covers. Also, can they specifically test for gluten intolerance? And what if it's something they've used to make my supplements. I don't have a clue what all can actually be tested for at a doctor's office. Like I mentioned somewhere on this thread, I don't think it would take that long to notice a difference if I quit the gluten, which, as far as I can see right now, bread is the only gluten I eat.
I have a gluten intolerance. It isn't just in bread. Read every label of every food package and you will see that gluten is in a huge amount of foods.0 -
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It looks like classic dermatographism. I started getting this in my mid 20's. Anything that scratched my skin caused welts and itched like crazy. I take antihistamines daily (generic Zyrtec). I am 99% sure my is food allergen related, though I haven't tested for that. When I eliminate grains, legumes, and dairy (eating Paleo) from my diet the itching gradually starts subsiding.
Hope that helps!1
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