My weight is not budging
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diannethegeek wrote: »Rumata2093 wrote: »musicfan68 wrote: »Weighing a salad : put bowl on scale, hit "tare". put each ingredient in, note weight, tare after each weight. Input each ingredient with it's corresponding weight into MFP. It will then add it up for you.
So how strict/disciplined are you with log calories? Say, you’re having black coffee with non-dairy creamer—will you log like 10-20 calories for creamer?
I put the coffee on the food scale, weigh how much creamer I add, and log that amount. Since I use a lot of creamer it's closer to 80-100 calories/cup for me.
yup same here. 10-20 calories is like nothing in creamer for me. i'm usually at 70-100 as well.0 -
Just wanted to chime in about logging stuff - I use the recipes functionality of this site religiously. I almost never order take-away nor do I eat out (not for dietary reasons, just because I'm broke as hell =] ), so I home cook basically all of my meals. I input the ingredients and their weight in the recipe log as I'm cooking (I try to use the USDA entries, as applicable, as they seem to be the most accurate), and then once I'm done, I measure the weight of the whole thing, then measure the weight of what looks like a good portion for me, then calculate how many of those portions would fit in the whole thing, and put that number in as my "number of servings." (A note about this: you'll have to know the weight of the container that's holding it, so you can subtract out that bit!) Since most of my recipes end up making 5-6 servings, it's way way way easier to just log that recipe in one go, instead of trying to guess the weight of each individual ingredient in the dish in front of me at the time that I eat it.
The initial recipe inputting is a pain(!!!!), but it gets easier with repetition and generally it ends up being a once-a-week thing instead of an every day thing, so it works out! Plus, if you end up rotating through recipes, it's easy to add them in the future. And, of course, you can be more confident that your logging is accurate.
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Oh, and also - My plan is to log religiously until I hit my weight goal, and then comfortably estimate to maintain. One of the benefits of logging things so meticulously now is I feel I've gotten better at estimating calorie content for things (though it's not a perfect art, of course!), including my favorite recipes, and what a typical day of meals & reasonable portion sizes ought to look like. If I notice my weight is beginning to creep back up, I'll tighten up on it again - but no, I don't plan to be so strict for the duration of my life. Control is nice, obsession is exhausting. =]6
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Do Atkins 40 and unprocess your diet. If done correctly you will lose those last few pounds overnight!29
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TiffanyKittylover wrote: »Do Atkins 40 and unprocess your diet. If done correctly you will lose those last few pounds overnight!
If OP went low carb then yes he'd most likely lose a few pounds of water weight initially. I'm assuming he wants to lose actual fat though.16 -
Even dietitians have a hard time calculating exact calories so at most you are going to get a rough estimate. But then you need to mix it up a little bit because your body appears to be in homeostasis. You can try fasting which has worked for many who reached a stall. Not real long fasting but like 24 hour or 36 hour periodically. Another option is to consider high carb low fat or low carb high fat but your body needs to adjust to the diet so there might be no immediate results.26
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azzeazsaleh5429 wrote: »Even dietitians have a hard time calculating exact calories so at most you are going to get a rough estimate. But then you need to mix it up a little bit because your body appears to be in homeostasis. You can try fasting which has worked for many who reached a stall. Not real long fasting but like 24 hour or 36 hour periodically. Another option is to consider high carb low fat or low carb high fat but your body needs to adjust to the diet so there might be no immediate results.
All of these things are personal preferences that are completely unnecessary for losing weight. There is no need to "mix up" your diet or exercise routine unless you are bored with it. Fasting of any kind is not necessary for weight loss, but may be done for religious reasons or personal eating habits. Macros are important for health and satiety but are not directly relevant for weight loss.14 -
On the logging: you'll get better at eyeing/feeling out portion sizes over time from the weighing and logging. Some things can be estimated without harming your diet, such as leafy greens. But other salad ingredients are incredibly calorie dense, such as oil and cheese, and add up fast. A restaurant salad will often have way more calories than a reasonable portion of steak because of the add-ons (and a lot harder to guestimate). Eating out often will make it more difficult - most items will be more calorie dense than what you would make at home while being mindful of calorie content, and you won't be able to track those items with any accuracy - most particularly, trying to eye/taste how much oil/butter/cheese went into something will be way, way off to possibly hundreds of calories.0
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2) I can say for certain that 'starvation mode' isn't a thing
Hi Danp, let me just start by saying I agree with with everything you posted, except this. I'm not trying to be annoying or rude, I just feel like this statement really needs clarification.
I can tell you that "starvation mode" is absolutely real. However, you're right to think that "starvation mode" is blamed for lack of weight loss too often. Your metabolism will only go into the starvation state when you've been eating nothing, or next to nothing, for days on end. Most of the time, if someone isn't losing weight it is because they're just not accurately measuring your calorie intake/output.
The normal phases of metabolism are the fed state and the fasted state. The fed state lasts for roughly 3 hours after you've eaten, when the body is metabolizing and storing the energy you have just consumed.
The fasted state begins at the end of the fed state, when your body has used or stored all of the energy you gained from eating. At this point, it begins releasing that stored energy so your body can use it to keep going until you next meal.
Your body normally enters the starvation state 2-3 days after your last meal. At this point, the body starts hanging on to its energy stores (not burning as much fat to make the remaining fat stores last longer) and instead begins to destroy muscle tissue, etc. to produce energy and keep the body alive. This is why people can survive for weeks or months with very little or no food, but become extremely weak in the process. If the body did not compensate in this way, it would burn through all of its stored energy and die much sooner.22 -
agentagile wrote: »2) I can say for certain that 'starvation mode' isn't a thing
Hi Danp, let me just start by saying I agree with with everything you posted, except this. I'm not trying to be annoying or rude, I just feel like this statement really needs clarification.
I can tell you that "starvation mode" is absolutely real. However, you're right to think that "starvation mode" is blamed for lack of weight loss too often. Your metabolism will only go into the starvation state when you've been eating nothing, or next to nothing, for days on end. Most of the time, if someone isn't losing weight it is because they're just not accurately measuring your calorie intake/output.
The normal phases of metabolism are the fed state and the fasted state. The fed state lasts for roughly 3 hours after you've eaten, when the body is metabolizing and storing the energy you have just consumed.
The fasted state begins at the end of the fed state, when your body has used or stored all of the energy you gained from eating. At this point, it begins releasing that stored energy so your body can use it to keep going until you next meal.
Your body normally enters the starvation state 2-3 days after your last meal. At this point, the body starts hanging on to its energy stores (not burning as much fat to make the remaining fat stores last longer) and instead begins to destroy muscle tissue, etc. to produce energy and keep the body alive. This is why people can survive for weeks or months with very little or no food, but become extremely weak in the process. If the body did not compensate in this way, it would burn through all of its stored energy and die much sooner.
When people refer to "starvation mode" in a weight loss context, it's safe to assume they aren't talking about the physical impacts of actual starvation (that is, going for days without food). They're talking about the myth that if you eat slightly less than you need, your body will refuse to burn energy.
Starvation is real. "Starvation mode" isn't. I hope that distinction makes sense.10 -
TiffanyKittylover wrote: »Do Atkins 40 and unprocess your diet. If done correctly you will lose those last few pounds overnight!
If OP went low carb then yes he'd most likely lose a few pounds of water weight initially. I'm assuming he wants to lose actual fat though.
You lose fat on Atkins, I am not talking about water weight.14 -
TiffanyKittylover wrote: »TiffanyKittylover wrote: »Do Atkins 40 and unprocess your diet. If done correctly you will lose those last few pounds overnight!
If OP went low carb then yes he'd most likely lose a few pounds of water weight initially. I'm assuming he wants to lose actual fat though.
You lose fat on Atkins, I am not talking about water weight.
You claimed he would lose the last few pounds overnight. Atkins or not that loss is not fat, it is water weight. Yes, you can lose fat on Atkins, but such a loss would be the result of a calorie deficit and you do not need to eat low carb or unprocessed food to achieve that.
Edited to add: Unless you're growing your own produce and killing/milking your own livestock, all the food you purchase and consume is processed in one way or another. So, one cannot simply "unprocess" their diet without eliminating most if not all foods from it.11 -
TiffanyKittylover wrote: »TiffanyKittylover wrote: »Do Atkins 40 and unprocess your diet. If done correctly you will lose those last few pounds overnight!
If OP went low carb then yes he'd most likely lose a few pounds of water weight initially. I'm assuming he wants to lose actual fat though.
You lose fat on Atkins, I am not talking about water weight.
You said in your other post that OP would lose his last few pounds overnight by switching to Atkins. Since OP wants to lose 10lbs, are you seriously claiming that he'll lose 10lbs of FAT overnight?8 -
You can only lose 10 pounds of fat overnight by using a chainsaw!8
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TiffanyKittylover wrote: »TiffanyKittylover wrote: »Do Atkins 40 and unprocess your diet. If done correctly you will lose those last few pounds overnight!
If OP went low carb then yes he'd most likely lose a few pounds of water weight initially. I'm assuming he wants to lose actual fat though.
You lose fat on Atkins, I am not talking about water weight.
You said in your other post that OP would lose his last few pounds overnight by switching to Atkins. Since OP wants to lose 10lbs, are you seriously claiming that he'll lose 10lbs of FAT overnight? [/quote
Oh FFS I didn't literally mean over night... don't be dumb.TiffanyKittylover wrote: »TiffanyKittylover wrote: »Do Atkins 40 and unprocess your diet. If done correctly you will lose those last few pounds overnight!
If OP went low carb then yes he'd most likely lose a few pounds of water weight initially. I'm assuming he wants to lose actual fat though.
You lose fat on Atkins, I am not talking about water weight.
You said in your other post that OP would lose his last few pounds overnight by switching to Atkins. Since OP wants to lose 10lbs, are you seriously claiming that he'll lose 10lbs of FAT overnight?6 -
Teabythesea_ wrote: »TiffanyKittylover wrote: »TiffanyKittylover wrote: »Do Atkins 40 and unprocess your diet. If done correctly you will lose those last few pounds overnight!
If OP went low carb then yes he'd most likely lose a few pounds of water weight initially. I'm assuming he wants to lose actual fat though.
You lose fat on Atkins, I am not talking about water weight.
You claimed he would lose the last few pounds overnight. Atkins or not that loss is not fat, it is water weight. Yes, you can lose fat on Atkins, but such a loss would be the result of a calorie deficit and you do not need to eat low carb or unprocessed food to achieve that.
Edited to add: Unless you're growing your own produce and killing/milking your own livestock, all the food you purchase and consume is processed in one way or another. So, one cannot simply "unprocess" their diet without eliminating most if not all foods from it.
Oh FFS I didn't literally mean over night... don't be dumb.
Yes, you have to continue the calorie deficit.
Unprocessing your diet means that you should only eat things that grow or need sunlight. It means you eat clean and stop eating things with really long ingredient lists of a bunch of crap in it, like protein bars and PROCESSED foods.14 -
Pipsqueak1965 wrote: »You can only lose 10 pounds of fat overnight by using a chainsaw!
Not literally overnight...1 -
TiffanyKittylover wrote: »Oh FFS I didn't literally mean over night... don't be dumb.
You may not have meant what you wrote, but other people do write things like that here (and mean them sincerely). You can't fault people for thinking you might have meant OP would quickly lose ten pounds of fat just by switching to Atkins/low carbohydrate diet du jour.9 -
TiffanyKittylover wrote: »Teabythesea_ wrote: »TiffanyKittylover wrote: »TiffanyKittylover wrote: »Do Atkins 40 and unprocess your diet. If done correctly you will lose those last few pounds overnight!
If OP went low carb then yes he'd most likely lose a few pounds of water weight initially. I'm assuming he wants to lose actual fat though.
You lose fat on Atkins, I am not talking about water weight.
You claimed he would lose the last few pounds overnight. Atkins or not that loss is not fat, it is water weight. Yes, you can lose fat on Atkins, but such a loss would be the result of a calorie deficit and you do not need to eat low carb or unprocessed food to achieve that.
Edited to add: Unless you're growing your own produce and killing/milking your own livestock, all the food you purchase and consume is processed in one way or another. So, one cannot simply "unprocess" their diet without eliminating most if not all foods from it.
Oh FFS I didn't literally mean over night... don't be dumb.
Yes, you have to continue the calorie deficit.
Unprocessing your diet means that you should only eat things that grow or need sunlight. It means you eat clean and stop eating things with really long ingredient lists of a bunch of crap in it, like protein bars and PROCESSED foods.
You can be overweight on a diet of unprocessed foods. You can be slender while eating things like protein bars.
Weight is related to calorie intake relative to activity, not the level of processing foods have undergone.10 -
TiffanyKittylover wrote: »Oh FFS I didn't literally mean over night... don't be dumb.
If you didn't actually mean what you typed out, then why did you say it? You literally said Op would lose his last few pounds overnight by doing Atkins. And then further claimed that it would be fat losses. We can only go off of what you are literally posting-we're not mind readers, nor are we 'dumb'. You're the one who's posting misinformation, not us.
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