My Day Fasting Success!

snickerscharlie · March 2019

pierinifitness wrote: »

@snickerscharlie, thanks for your comments. Good for you that you're a seasoned IF practitioner, therefore "qualified" to make the comments you have based on your experience. I've never gained weight practicing IF.

Never say never. By your own admission, you've only been doing this for six months:

pierinifitness wrote: »

I've got about 6 months under my belt practicing IF in my current journey and just started OMAD.

I've known lots of people (myself included) who have lost, gained or maintained weight doing intermittent fasting. My point was - and still is - IF is merely a method that works for some people to control caloric intake, and that there's nothing magic or special about it.

Thanks also for your comments about how fasting provides no other benefits besides contributing to a calorie deficit but I prefer to get my information about this from more qualified sources.

Yet you want noobs here to listen to you? There's a bit of a disconnect there. Or Fung? Dude is a quack whose theories have been thoroughly debunked by people who are actually qualified within the medical and scientific community to do so, if you were inclined to research farther than the 'info-videos' he's produced. You are completely entitled to your own beliefs, but not your own facts.

Obviously weight management success comes from only eating when you're hungry and knowing the difference between real hunger rather than an excessive desire to eat out of boredom, habit or an emptiness in your life that you will with food. For some, it does become a little more challenging after fasting for 22-hours and that was likely your case with the weight you gained while practicing IF.

Did you miss the part where I said I've been doing IF for over three decades? If you read my profile, you will find that I lost the 75 lbs I needed to several years ago, and have been in maintenance ever since. Yes, I lost the weight doing IF by eating less. The very same way that I had gained it while doing IF by eating too much. That's the entire point. Intermittent fasting - in and of itself - does absolutely nothing to control or manage weight unless it's combined with the appropriate caloric intake.

For people new to weight management, promoting anything else is simply making an overwhelmingly confusing subject even more so.

kshama2001 · March 2019

Pipsqueak1965 wrote: »

Just wondering how you can eat 1500 calories worth of lean meat and vegetables in one go?!? That is a massive amount!

Agreed. I used to be able to do 1500 calories worth of pizza in a go (and I'd feel gross afterwards) but certainly not 1500 calories worth of lean meat and vegetables. I have a hard time finishing 400 calories worth of Thai beef salad.

(I am not disputing the validity of OMAD for some; just sharing that I find the mechanics of it baffling.)

RAinWA · March 2019

pierinifitness wrote: »

Obviously weight management success comes from only eating when you're hungry and knowing the difference between real hunger rather than an excessive desire to eat out of boredom, habit or an emptiness in your life that you will with food. For some, it does become a little more challenging after fasting for 22-hours and that was likely your case with the weight you gained while practicing IF.

Wishing you the best.

Well, the bolded isn't necessarily true. I sometimes eat when I'm not hungry because I know I'm going to be busy and not get a chance to eat for some time. Weigh management success comes down to eating the correct amount of calories for your body. And I have been pretty much maintaining a 125+ pound weight loss for years.

GottaBurnEmAll · March 2019

kshama2001 wrote: »

Pipsqueak1965 wrote: »

Just wondering how you can eat 1500 calories worth of lean meat and vegetables in one go?!? That is a massive amount!

Agreed. I used to be able to do 1500 calories worth of pizza in a go (and I'd feel gross afterwards) but certainly not 1500 calories worth of lean meat and vegetables. I have a hard time finishing 400 calories worth of Thai beef salad.

(I am not disputing the validity of OMAD for some; just sharing that I find the mechanics of it baffling.)

During one portion of my weight loss phase, I was down to a really small three hour eating window.

Part of that was so that I could eat a really large meal and have that "super full" feeling I used to feel when I was, you know, eating whatever I wanted when I was 210 pounds.

This was during the time I got mired into binge/restrict cycling trying to shift vanity weight. It wasn't a very healthy phase of things for me. I've said before on these boards that I think some of my struggles during this time were due to the normal hormonal adjustments losing a large amount of weight has on a person.

I still think that, because that urge to feel really full is related to hunger signalling and that's one of the things that can be messed up in the aftermath of a large weight loss.

Anyway, over time, that need to feel that way just stopped. I still like generous servings of vegetables, but I really can't eat anywhere near the large amounts at a time that I used to. This is one of the reasons IF stopped working for me. I had to start spreading my intake out into smaller meals to get all my calories in addition to the fact that I began waking up hungry.

It was a gradual process of adjustment, but fortunately I rely on logging and weighing my food to regulate my calorie intake, so any other changes I need to make are pretty simple and don't throw me off track.

In the four years I've been at this, I've had different meal timing protocols, I've eaten different macro mixes, I've had different exercise timing. The one thing that has always been consistent is keeping track of my calories. And that's kept things in check.

Anyway, I wrote all this out to put it out there in case very small eating windows and larger meals stop working for someone over time the way they stopped working for me. Eating a lot of food at once sounds wonderful until it stops feeling wonderful.

lemurcat2 · March 2019

kshama2001 wrote: »

Pipsqueak1965 wrote: »

Just wondering how you can eat 1500 calories worth of lean meat and vegetables in one go?!? That is a massive amount!

Agreed. I used to be able to do 1500 calories worth of pizza in a go (and I'd feel gross afterwards) but certainly not 1500 calories worth of lean meat and vegetables. I have a hard time finishing 400 calories worth of Thai beef salad.

(I am not disputing the validity of OMAD for some; just sharing that I find the mechanics of it baffling.)

I'm largely the same way. Meals that large are just not pleasurable for me. It's also why I rarely have some crazy crazy day on Thanksgiving -- I may eat more than usual, but not to the point of feeling super stuffed, and since our Thanksgiving meals are based in large part on turkey (quite lean), vegetables (some with more fat added than others, but I usually have lots of lower cal options available) and potatoes (which I find quite filling even mashed and with some butter), I tend to fill up before the calories rack up too high.

pierinifitness · March 2019

Thank you for your sharing @GottaBurnEmAll, very insightful and personal. Sharing like this is what makes time here invaluable. Wishing you my best.

corrarjo · March 2019

Annie_01 wrote: »

I do not intentionally do IF but some might say that is what I do. I usually don't eat before 11am and I usually don't eat after about 7pm. I just find that works for me on many different levels. I eat brunch and dinner and some type of mid afternoon snack. I have found that this method for me has stopped the all afternoon eating, my appetite is down and has eliminated my binging tendencies. It encourages me to focus on the foods that I need for my health(lean meat, vegetables, fruit) without me over thinking things. These things are the "pros" of how I eat.

The "cons"...sometimes my calorie counts are low with no desire to eat more because I am satiated by the foods I have eaten.

One other "pro" is that it has allowed me to get acquainted with my hunger pains, feeling full and let me learn that my desire to sometimes binge has nothing to do with being hungry.

I don't object to IF but I don't use the term even though my WOE might fall in to that category. Nor do I use the term "clean eating/whole foods/anything else even though about 90% of the foods that I eat might fall into one of those categories. I also don't like rules about eating especially if they were made by someone else.

I used the term "usually" to describe how I eat. That is because if for some reason I am hungry(truly hungry) at 8am or 11pm I will eat.

Here, here @Annie_01 . My experience exactly.

lleeann2001 · March 2019

Rea20021989 wrote: »

Yeah, anyone who is saying fasting has no benefits other than calorie deficit really ought to look up autophagy. Just saying.

thank YOU Rea!!

lemurcat2 · March 2019

Annie_01 wrote: »

I do not intentionally do IF but some might say that is what I do. I usually don't eat before 11am and I usually don't eat after about 7pm. I just find that works for me on many different levels. I eat brunch and dinner and some type of mid afternoon snack. I have found that this method for me has stopped the all afternoon eating, my appetite is down and has eliminated my binging tendencies. It encourages me to focus on the foods that I need for my health(lean meat, vegetables, fruit) without me over thinking things. These things are the "pros" of how I eat.

I have this same basic experience eating (usually) at 6, 12, and as late as 9 or after. Not snacking is the key for me, and I don't desire to eat in-between meals when I eat three regular meals.

I find it easy to eat no breakfast and a light lunch and then a heavier but earlier dinner (this is what I do on weekends or Fridays often if I am planning to go out to dinner), but I don't find that an easier schedule.

When I was younger I was less of a morning person and didn't really like any breakfast food I was willing to make in the morning, so tended to skip breakfast and often eat a late lunch and then dinner. I was a healthy weight and overweight at different times following these same patterns (what made the difference is what I chose to eat for the breakfast and lunch).

Not saying IF schedules don't work better for others -- I am big on different patterns work for different people -- but I wanted to note that I had experienced similar results from the not eating between meals element (or the 3 meals element) with a very different schedule that happens to work much better with my work and workout schedule.

I do find it mildly odd that some call such a common schedule as a later breakfast (or skipped breakfast) "fasting" and (especially) claim that it (or some other favored eating pattern) is inherently better and appreciate that you do not.

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