Calories
Yakker04
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Hi I need help please I've been told by 2 nutritionist not to count the calories the app gives me for excercise as it's inaccurate is this correct
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I have always found exercise cals from MFP to be spot on, but not everyone does.2
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The one value that is definitely wrong for your exercise calories is 0.
Enter your exercise. Start by eating back half or three quarters of the extra calories. See how that goes for about a month, and then adjust if necessary.3 -
The only absolutely inaccurate figure is 0.
Do these "nutritionists" not feel you should fuel exercise at all?1 -
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Ok thanks guys so I should eat them back. E.g. I'm on 2100 calories it gives me 900 calories for excercise so I should be eating 3000 calories?
You say in your other thread that you're maintaining, though. Which says that you're at 3000 already.
How do you weigh and track your food? That could be giving you more than you're eating, in which case it wouldn't make sense to eat those extra calories *unless* you are willing to tighten up your logging, *and* be careful that you're counting your exercise correctly.0 -
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your goal is to maintain. since you have been doing what you have been doing...has your weight remained stable? how long have you been tracking?
so are they saying that because 900 is too high an estimated (according to them) to eat... ZERO? there is a HUGE range between 0 and 900. if 900 is too high and estimate, in no way does that mean eat 0. if after tracking and eating back the 900 your weight creeps up then you know that indeed, 900 is too much and eat back maybe 75% of that. or if you are super concerned, eat 75% now and track and see if your weight remain stable.
but if you have been eating the 900 for awhile now and your weight is stable, then keep doing what you are doing, it works.1 -
Hi I need help please I've been told by 2 nutritionist not to count the calories the app gives me for excercise as it's inaccurate is this correct
I agree with what others have said above, generally.
I just want to add this: Sometimes nutritionists/trainers say not to eat back exercise calories because they're used to thinking in terms of TDEE-based calorie estimates as a goal. TDEE (Total Daily Energy Expenditure) includes all exercise, just averaged over all your days. Many calorie-counting sites use TDEE as a starting point for calorie goals.
MFP, on the other hand, gives you a calorie goal that is based on NEAT (Non-Exercise Activity Thermogenesis). NEAT includes your daily life (job, etc.) and general calorie burn just from being alive, but doesn't include intentional exercise. So, you log exercise, and eat it back on top of the basic daily calorie goal, because it wasn't included in MFP's basic daily calorie goal.
Sometimes trainers/nutritionists (and others) who don't use MFP don't realize this.3 -
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Some people are saying yes others are saying no. I don't know what to do. Maybe I won't log my excercise and just eat 2100 calories or under
So you want to choose the one number you know is wrong, without answering any of these other questions which can help clarify the answers you’ve gotten above?
What is your height and current weight?
What is your goal weight?
What activity level did you choose?
What rate of loss did you choose?
Do you log everything you eat, using a food scale for accuracy?
Would you be willing to open your diary?3 -
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Hi I need help please I've been told by 2 nutritionist not to count the calories the app gives me for excercise as it's inaccurate is this correct
I agree with what others have said above, generally.
I just want to add this: Sometimes nutritionists/trainers say not to eat back exercise calories because they're used to thinking in terms of TDEE-based calorie estimates as a goal. TDEE (Total Daily Energy Expenditure) includes all exercise, just averaged over all your days. Many calorie-counting sites use TDEE as a starting point for calorie goals.
MFP, on the other hand, gives you a calorie goal that is based on NEAT (Non-Exercise Activity Thermogenesis). NEAT includes your daily life (job, etc.) and general calorie burn just from being alive, but doesn't include intentional exercise. So, you log exercise, and eat it back on top of the basic daily calorie goal, because it wasn't included in MFP's basic daily calorie goal.
Sometimes trainers/nutritionists (and others) who don't use MFP don't realize this.
Good summary Ann. Thanks for the deep dive explanation of how that works.2 -
The exercise calories I've gotten from MFP have been pretty accurate. Accurate enough for me to have lost weight successfully and then to have continued to maintain for several years while eating most of them back...at least try eating half of them back. Then make adjustments if things aren't working.0
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Why not it's been that way for weeks and have maintained my weight
Then if you have a couple months of data, go by that. We don't have that, and I'm guessing neither does the nutritionist (?)
This is your experiment to run. If you're maintaining over a period of 4-6 weeks on a certain number, then stick to it.
I've always eaten all the exercise calories. It is what allows me to eat enough to be happy, YMMV.4 -
Why not it's been that way for weeks and have maintained my weight
You are eating more than you think as that's far too low for an average sized male who describes themselves as active and exercises a lot. Your BMR alone is in the order of 1800 cals - that's at complete rest, fasted, no activity, no exercise.
Your TDEE is more likely to be around 2800, higher if your exercise is long duration cardio.
I'm around 78kg and my TDEE is well over 3,000 and rises in summer when my cycling volume goes up.
Option 1
Keep logging the way you are if it's consistent despite being inaccurate, use your own bodyweight changes as your guide.
Option 2
Make your diary public if you want help on logging more accurately.
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If you use the quote function it's far easier to know what or who you are responding to.1
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If you use the quote function it's far easier to know what or who you are responding to.Why not it's been that way for weeks and have maintained my weight
You are eating more than you think as that's far too low for an average sized male who describes themselves as active and exercises a lot. Your BMR alone is in the order of 1800 cals - that's at complete rest, fasted, no activity, no exercise.
Your TDEE is more likely to be around 2800, higher if your exercise is long duration cardio.
I'm around 78kg and my TDEE is well over 3,000 and rises in summer when my cycling volume goes up.
Option 1
Keep logging the way you are if it's consistent despite being inaccurate, use your own bodyweight changes as your guide.
Option 2
Make your diary public if you want help on logging more accurately.
Yes I changed it to 2100
But as pointed out - your stats and activity doesn’t indicate a maintenance level of 2100, even NEAT which is what MFP uses.
MY TDEE as a petite female is around 2100 and I’m not as active as you.2 -
I've found the calorie calculator useful for determining maintenance calories. You can google "calorie calculator", type in your body stats, and get your maintenance calories that way. I also check my weight every 3 to 4 days to check, monitor, and adjust calorie intake to maintain my weight.0
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I go to the gym 3-4 times a week and use the weight machines, bikes, and sometimes treadmills. I enter choose levels on the machines and enter my weight. The machines give me number of calories I have "burned" as I exercise. I do not think the number of calories burned is 100% accurate but I still enter those numbers into MFP food diary. I do not "eat back" all the calories the machines say I have "exercised off", but it does give me a guide to go by.0
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If you use the quote function it's far easier to know what or who you are responding to.Why not it's been that way for weeks and have maintained my weight
You are eating more than you think as that's far too low for an average sized male who describes themselves as active and exercises a lot. Your BMR alone is in the order of 1800 cals - that's at complete rest, fasted, no activity, no exercise.
Your TDEE is more likely to be around 2800, higher if your exercise is long duration cardio.
I'm around 78kg and my TDEE is well over 3,000 and rises in summer when my cycling volume goes up.
Option 1
Keep logging the way you are if it's consistent despite being inaccurate, use your own bodyweight changes as your guide.
Option 2
Make your diary public if you want help on logging more accurately.
Yes I changed it to 2100
And as said previously 2100 cannot be your actual maintenance calories.
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