Tired all the time after change in eating habits
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deannalfisher wrote: »superkitcat wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »founds like you cut your calories too fast and cutting carbs while it will "jumpstart" that is because it will be water weight and as soon as you reintroduce carbs you'll see a slight uptick
when you were eating 1800-2000 were you logging EVERYTHING?
I log everything. I plan all my meals in advance and I cook from scratch. I know what I am going to eat even before I eat it. It's a lot of work. I don't eat anything boxed, nothing fried. Even when I eat out, I make the healthy choices. I have a feeling I am putting my body into starvation mode, hence the thought of seeing a nutritionist.
starvation mode do not exist and adaptive thermogensis takes a while to have that kind of effect
are you using the recipe builder when you cook from scratch? are you using cups/tsp rather than g/oz? even so-called healthy choices when eating out can be calorie-tastic
ok - good. I'm glad to hear that. I use cups and tsp. I learnt long ago that US measurements are different than Canadian measurements. I hear you about that eating healthy out is heard because you are not cooking it yourself so technically you really don't know what you are eating. I'm glad there a re more and more restaurnats that give you the nutritional value on their menus. it helps a little.
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superkitcat wrote: »165, 5"7, as of now Just walking 3X times a week 3.5km and 38. I said I wanted to lose 25 to 30 lbs in a year or so. I wanted this change to jump start the weight loss and after April 19 to slowly introduce the whole grains. I was eating 1800 to 2000 calories when working out with a trainer twice a week and on my own 1 or twice a week. It varied. Now that I'm not, I don't see the point. Don't I have to keep a deficit of 500 calories to see some changes?
We have almost identical stats. I am 5’7”, 162, trying to get to 145. I’d suggest changing it to .5lb/week. I’m netting 1600 right now and still losing. I also walk a ton. Are you eating those walking calories back? If not, make sure that you do.
1200 is personally unachievable for me.
So you eat all you calories back or just a portion?0 -
superkitcat wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »superkitcat wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »founds like you cut your calories too fast and cutting carbs while it will "jumpstart" that is because it will be water weight and as soon as you reintroduce carbs you'll see a slight uptick
when you were eating 1800-2000 were you logging EVERYTHING?
I log everything. I plan all my meals in advance and I cook from scratch. I know what I am going to eat even before I eat it. It's a lot of work. I don't eat anything boxed, nothing fried. Even when I eat out, I make the healthy choices. I have a feeling I am putting my body into starvation mode, hence the thought of seeing a nutritionist.
starvation mode do not exist and adaptive thermogensis takes a while to have that kind of effect
are you using the recipe builder when you cook from scratch? are you using cups/tsp rather than g/oz? even so-called healthy choices when eating out can be calorie-tastic
ok - good. I'm glad to hear that. I use cups and tsp. I learnt long ago that US measurements are different than Canadian measurements. I hear you about that eating healthy out is heard because you are not cooking it yourself so technically you really don't know what you are eating. I'm glad there a re more and more restaurnats that give you the nutritional value on their menus. it helps a little.
getting scales will probably help, cups arent very accurate6 -
superkitcat wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »founds like you cut your calories too fast and cutting carbs while it will "jumpstart" that is because it will be water weight and as soon as you reintroduce carbs you'll see a slight uptick
when you were eating 1800-2000 were you logging EVERYTHING?
I log everything. I plan all my meals in advance and I cook from scratch. I know what I am going to eat even before I eat it. It's a lot of work. I don't eat anything boxed, nothing fried. Even when I eat out, I make the healthy choices. I have a feeling I am putting my body into starvation mode, hence the thought of seeing a nutritionist.
If you want to eat this way that is fine, but it's 100% unnecessary to make yourself miserable to lose weight.
No on the starvation mode, but I think that's already been addressed.8 -
If you want to be exact you need a food scale to measure all solid foods.
You have many misconceptions about food. It sounds like something or someone has made you scared and that is a shame. If you do not have a medical reason it is unnecessary to cut out anything from your diet. There are some things you may need to eat in moderation if they are very calorie dense like regular ice cream but only because you have to budget your calories or risk being hungry all day.
Think of your body nutrition like a bucket. It has a finite amount of space. Once you fill your bucket the rest of the nutrients you keep eating will not fit and will be wasted. This is why it is okay to eat all the fun stuff too.7 -
superkitcat wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »superkitcat wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »founds like you cut your calories too fast and cutting carbs while it will "jumpstart" that is because it will be water weight and as soon as you reintroduce carbs you'll see a slight uptick
when you were eating 1800-2000 were you logging EVERYTHING?
I log everything. I plan all my meals in advance and I cook from scratch. I know what I am going to eat even before I eat it. It's a lot of work. I don't eat anything boxed, nothing fried. Even when I eat out, I make the healthy choices. I have a feeling I am putting my body into starvation mode, hence the thought of seeing a nutritionist.
starvation mode do not exist and adaptive thermogensis takes a while to have that kind of effect
are you using the recipe builder when you cook from scratch? are you using cups/tsp rather than g/oz? even so-called healthy choices when eating out can be calorie-tastic
ok - good. I'm glad to hear that. I use cups and tsp. I learnt long ago that US measurements are different than Canadian measurements. I hear you about that eating healthy out is heard because you are not cooking it yourself so technically you really don't know what you are eating. I'm glad there a re more and more restaurnats that give you the nutritional value on their menus. it helps a little.
cups yes there is a minimal difference - but a gram is a gram; and ounce is an ounce when it comes to weighing food6 -
superkitcat wrote: »superkitcat wrote: »165, 5"7, as of now Just walking 3X times a week 3.5km and 38. I said I wanted to lose 25 to 30 lbs in a year or so. I wanted this change to jump start the weight loss and after April 19 to slowly introduce the whole grains. I was eating 1800 to 2000 calories when working out with a trainer twice a week and on my own 1 or twice a week. It varied. Now that I'm not, I don't see the point. Don't I have to keep a deficit of 500 calories to see some changes?
We have almost identical stats. I am 5’7”, 162, trying to get to 145. I’d suggest changing it to .5lb/week. I’m netting 1600 right now and still losing. I also walk a ton. Are you eating those walking calories back? If not, make sure that you do.
1200 is personally unachievable for me.
So you eat all you calories back or just a portion?
some people have success eating all calories back, others a portion - some ppl find that MFP overestimates calories burned from working out1 -
superkitcat wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »founds like you cut your calories too fast and cutting carbs while it will "jumpstart" that is because it will be water weight and as soon as you reintroduce carbs you'll see a slight uptick
when you were eating 1800-2000 were you logging EVERYTHING?
I log everything. I plan all my meals in advance and I cook from scratch. I know what I am going to eat even before I eat it. It's a lot of work. I don't eat anything boxed, nothing fried. Even when I eat out, I make the healthy choices. I have a feeling I am putting my body into starvation mode, hence the thought of seeing a nutritionist.
If you want to eat this way that is fine, but it's 100% unnecessary to make yourself miserable to lose weight.
No on the starvation mode, but I think that's already been addressed.
I am not miserable and I am not hungry. Obviously I am doing something wrong. Some people have given me great advise here of what I am doing wrong and I appreciate their insight.
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superkitcat wrote: »superkitcat wrote: »deannalfisher wrote: »founds like you cut your calories too fast and cutting carbs while it will "jumpstart" that is because it will be water weight and as soon as you reintroduce carbs you'll see a slight uptick
when you were eating 1800-2000 were you logging EVERYTHING?
I log everything. I plan all my meals in advance and I cook from scratch. I know what I am going to eat even before I eat it. It's a lot of work. I don't eat anything boxed, nothing fried. Even when I eat out, I make the healthy choices. I have a feeling I am putting my body into starvation mode, hence the thought of seeing a nutritionist.
If you want to eat this way that is fine, but it's 100% unnecessary to make yourself miserable to lose weight.
No on the starvation mode, but I think that's already been addressed.
I am not miserable and I am not hungry. Obviously I am doing something wrong. Some people have given me great advise here of what I am doing wrong and I appreciate their insight.
I think your body is telling you otherwise.7 -
If you want to be exact you need a food scale to measure all solid foods.
You have many misconceptions about food. It sounds like something or someone has made you scared and that is a shame. If you do not have a medical reason it is unnecessary to cut out anything from your diet. There are some things you may need to eat in moderation if they are very calorie dense like regular ice cream but only because you have to budget your calories or risk being hungry all day.
Think of your body nutrition like a bucket. It has a finite amount of space. Once you fill your bucket the rest of the nutrients you keep eating will not fit and will be wasted. This is why it is okay to eat all the fun stuff too.
I don't have misconceptions about food. I do know what is healthy and what is not. As it was pointed out here, I am not eating as much as I should and I should be eating part of my increased caloric intake. I cut out grains and "added sugars" in what I thought would jump start weight loss. Clearly I didn't do it right. The grains that I have cut out have been replaced with good seeds like wild rice, quinoa and amaranth. What I am doing is not for life but for 40 days. Prior to this new change I ate well balanced meals and managed to lose weight but I plateaud hence, the food change. I will follow the advise of many here and up my caloric intake. If I see that lose 0.5lbs in two weeks, then I know it's working. If I don't, then I will see a nutritionist so she can advise further.5 -
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superkitcat wrote: »If you want to be exact you need a food scale to measure all solid foods.
You have many misconceptions about food. It sounds like something or someone has made you scared and that is a shame. If you do not have a medical reason it is unnecessary to cut out anything from your diet. There are some things you may need to eat in moderation if they are very calorie dense like regular ice cream but only because you have to budget your calories or risk being hungry all day.
Think of your body nutrition like a bucket. It has a finite amount of space. Once you fill your bucket the rest of the nutrients you keep eating will not fit and will be wasted. This is why it is okay to eat all the fun stuff too.
I don't have misconceptions about food. I do know what is healthy and what is not. As it was pointed out here, I am not eating as much as I should and I should be eating part of my increased caloric intake. I cut out grains and "added sugars" in what I thought would jump start weight loss. Clearly I didn't do it right. The grains that I have cut out have been replaced with good seeds like wild rice, quinoa and amaranth. What I am doing is not for life but for 40 days. Prior to this new change I ate well balanced meals and managed to lose weight but I plateaud hence, the food change. I will follow the advise of many here and up my caloric intake. If I see that lose 0.5lbs in two weeks, then I know it's working. If I don't, then I will see a nutritionist so she can advise further.
The bolded is what they mean. No one food is good or bad. It is your diet as a whole that is healthy or unhealthy.
This is a common misconception and why so many people have a poor relationship with food.
What makes wild rice or quinoa any better than another grain? They have different nutrients but that only matters as part of your whole diet. For example Wild Rice is lower in calories than Brown Rice, but Brown Rice has more Fibre.12 -
You do realize that whole grains include wheat as well, don't you? You can buy wheat in its entire form. Quinoa, rice, and other whole grains are simply different. They all have their merits.6
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superkitcat wrote: »superkitcat wrote: »165, 5"7, as of now Just walking 3X times a week 3.5km and 38. I said I wanted to lose 25 to 30 lbs in a year or so. I wanted this change to jump start the weight loss and after April 19 to slowly introduce the whole grains. I was eating 1800 to 2000 calories when working out with a trainer twice a week and on my own 1 or twice a week. It varied. Now that I'm not, I don't see the point. Don't I have to keep a deficit of 500 calories to see some changes?
We have almost identical stats. I am 5’7”, 162, trying to get to 145. I’d suggest changing it to .5lb/week. I’m netting 1600 right now and still losing. I also walk a ton. Are you eating those walking calories back? If not, make sure that you do.
1200 is personally unachievable for me.
So you eat all you calories back or just a portion?
All of them. I do underestimate some exercises though when I input them into MFP (cycling and sports). I also typically use the following formula for my walk calories burned: weight in lbs x miles walked x .330 -
tinkerbellang83 wrote: »superkitcat wrote: »If you want to be exact you need a food scale to measure all solid foods.
You have many misconceptions about food. It sounds like something or someone has made you scared and that is a shame. If you do not have a medical reason it is unnecessary to cut out anything from your diet. There are some things you may need to eat in moderation if they are very calorie dense like regular ice cream but only because you have to budget your calories or risk being hungry all day.
Think of your body nutrition like a bucket. It has a finite amount of space. Once you fill your bucket the rest of the nutrients you keep eating will not fit and will be wasted. This is why it is okay to eat all the fun stuff too.
I don't have misconceptions about food. I do know what is healthy and what is not. As it was pointed out here, I am not eating as much as I should and I should be eating part of my increased caloric intake. I cut out grains and "added sugars" in what I thought would jump start weight loss. Clearly I didn't do it right. The grains that I have cut out have been replaced with good seeds like wild rice, quinoa and amaranth. What I am doing is not for life but for 40 days. Prior to this new change I ate well balanced meals and managed to lose weight but I plateaud hence, the food change. I will follow the advise of many here and up my caloric intake. If I see that lose 0.5lbs in two weeks, then I know it's working. If I don't, then I will see a nutritionist so she can advise further.
The bolded is what they mean. No one food is good or bad. It is your diet as a whole that is healthy or unhealthy.
This is a common misconception and why so many people have a poor relationship with food.
What makes wild rice or quinoa any better than another grain? They have different nutrients but that only matters as part of your whole diet. For example Wild Rice is lower in calories than Brown Rice, but Brown Rice has more Fibre.
Yes some food is bad. Deep fried anything is bad as people tend not to eat it in moderation. Like I said before, this is not a forever thing. It was a jump start since I was plateauing. Giving up wheat and grains I thought was going to do the trick. I didn't want to do the keto or paleo diet that's why I am eating seeds rather than grains and keeping dairy. All whole foods have their merits and once this is done, I can slowly introduce whole grains again.18 -
superkitcat wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »superkitcat wrote: »If you want to be exact you need a food scale to measure all solid foods.
You have many misconceptions about food. It sounds like something or someone has made you scared and that is a shame. If you do not have a medical reason it is unnecessary to cut out anything from your diet. There are some things you may need to eat in moderation if they are very calorie dense like regular ice cream but only because you have to budget your calories or risk being hungry all day.
Think of your body nutrition like a bucket. It has a finite amount of space. Once you fill your bucket the rest of the nutrients you keep eating will not fit and will be wasted. This is why it is okay to eat all the fun stuff too.
I don't have misconceptions about food. I do know what is healthy and what is not. As it was pointed out here, I am not eating as much as I should and I should be eating part of my increased caloric intake. I cut out grains and "added sugars" in what I thought would jump start weight loss. Clearly I didn't do it right. The grains that I have cut out have been replaced with good seeds like wild rice, quinoa and amaranth. What I am doing is not for life but for 40 days. Prior to this new change I ate well balanced meals and managed to lose weight but I plateaud hence, the food change. I will follow the advise of many here and up my caloric intake. If I see that lose 0.5lbs in two weeks, then I know it's working. If I don't, then I will see a nutritionist so she can advise further.
The bolded is what they mean. No one food is good or bad. It is your diet as a whole that is healthy or unhealthy.
This is a common misconception and why so many people have a poor relationship with food.
What makes wild rice or quinoa any better than another grain? They have different nutrients but that only matters as part of your whole diet. For example Wild Rice is lower in calories than Brown Rice, but Brown Rice has more Fibre.
Yes some food is bad. Deep fried anything is bad as people tend not to eat it in moderation. Like I said before, this is not a forever thing. It was a jump start since I was plateauing. Giving up wheat and grains I thought was going to do the trick. I didn't want to do the keto or paleo diet that's why I am eating seeds rather than grains and keeping dairy. All whole foods have their merits and once this is done, I can slowly introduce whole grains again.
I don't think you can speak for all 'people' as lots of us can eat fried food in moderation, so it's not bad.
And even if I ate lots of fried food, it still wouldn't be bad, just potentially highly calorific.18 -
superkitcat wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »superkitcat wrote: »If you want to be exact you need a food scale to measure all solid foods.
You have many misconceptions about food. It sounds like something or someone has made you scared and that is a shame. If you do not have a medical reason it is unnecessary to cut out anything from your diet. There are some things you may need to eat in moderation if they are very calorie dense like regular ice cream but only because you have to budget your calories or risk being hungry all day.
Think of your body nutrition like a bucket. It has a finite amount of space. Once you fill your bucket the rest of the nutrients you keep eating will not fit and will be wasted. This is why it is okay to eat all the fun stuff too.
I don't have misconceptions about food. I do know what is healthy and what is not. As it was pointed out here, I am not eating as much as I should and I should be eating part of my increased caloric intake. I cut out grains and "added sugars" in what I thought would jump start weight loss. Clearly I didn't do it right. The grains that I have cut out have been replaced with good seeds like wild rice, quinoa and amaranth. What I am doing is not for life but for 40 days. Prior to this new change I ate well balanced meals and managed to lose weight but I plateaud hence, the food change. I will follow the advise of many here and up my caloric intake. If I see that lose 0.5lbs in two weeks, then I know it's working. If I don't, then I will see a nutritionist so she can advise further.
The bolded is what they mean. No one food is good or bad. It is your diet as a whole that is healthy or unhealthy.
This is a common misconception and why so many people have a poor relationship with food.
What makes wild rice or quinoa any better than another grain? They have different nutrients but that only matters as part of your whole diet. For example Wild Rice is lower in calories than Brown Rice, but Brown Rice has more Fibre.
Yes some food is bad. Deep fried anything is bad as people tend not to eat it in moderation. Like I said before, this is not a forever thing. It was a jump start since I was plateauing. Giving up wheat and grains I thought was going to do the trick. I didn't want to do the keto or paleo diet that's why I am eating seeds rather than grains and keeping dairy. All whole foods have their merits and once this is done, I can slowly introduce whole grains again.
Some people not eating a food in moderation doesn't make the food itself bad, it makes the inability to moderate it a bad thing. But people can overeat any kind of food, fruit and veg is considered good, but if I eat so much of it that I can't meet my protein and fat goals within my calorie goal that's not healthy either, it puts maintaining muscle at risk and means I am unlikely to be absorbing as much of the vitamins from the foods I am eating, as many require fat for absorption.
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TavistockToad wrote: »superkitcat wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »superkitcat wrote: »If you want to be exact you need a food scale to measure all solid foods.
You have many misconceptions about food. It sounds like something or someone has made you scared and that is a shame. If you do not have a medical reason it is unnecessary to cut out anything from your diet. There are some things you may need to eat in moderation if they are very calorie dense like regular ice cream but only because you have to budget your calories or risk being hungry all day.
Think of your body nutrition like a bucket. It has a finite amount of space. Once you fill your bucket the rest of the nutrients you keep eating will not fit and will be wasted. This is why it is okay to eat all the fun stuff too.
I don't have misconceptions about food. I do know what is healthy and what is not. As it was pointed out here, I am not eating as much as I should and I should be eating part of my increased caloric intake. I cut out grains and "added sugars" in what I thought would jump start weight loss. Clearly I didn't do it right. The grains that I have cut out have been replaced with good seeds like wild rice, quinoa and amaranth. What I am doing is not for life but for 40 days. Prior to this new change I ate well balanced meals and managed to lose weight but I plateaud hence, the food change. I will follow the advise of many here and up my caloric intake. If I see that lose 0.5lbs in two weeks, then I know it's working. If I don't, then I will see a nutritionist so she can advise further.
The bolded is what they mean. No one food is good or bad. It is your diet as a whole that is healthy or unhealthy.
This is a common misconception and why so many people have a poor relationship with food.
What makes wild rice or quinoa any better than another grain? They have different nutrients but that only matters as part of your whole diet. For example Wild Rice is lower in calories than Brown Rice, but Brown Rice has more Fibre.
Yes some food is bad. Deep fried anything is bad as people tend not to eat it in moderation. Like I said before, this is not a forever thing. It was a jump start since I was plateauing. Giving up wheat and grains I thought was going to do the trick. I didn't want to do the keto or paleo diet that's why I am eating seeds rather than grains and keeping dairy. All whole foods have their merits and once this is done, I can slowly introduce whole grains again.
I don't think you can speak for all 'people' as lots of us can eat fried food in moderation, so it's not bad.
And even if I ate lots of fried food, it still wouldn't be bad, just potentially highly calorific
I didnt say all people, i said people6
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