Getting in Shape... The Army Way

Tjohnson3861
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Hey all!
So I am planning on joining the Army soon. My timeline completely depends on me and my ability to meet the physical fitness standards that are currently in place. The first place I need to start is losing lbs and body fat.
I am currently at 281lbs and a 41% body fat. I started a 1200 cal high protein low sodium diet last week (03/28/19) ( I was at 289lbs and 49% body fat) and so far have lost 8lbs and 9% body fat just on the change. I have a feeling I will plateau soon and need to figure out ways to meet the 26% body fat standard the Army has while maintaining the ability to do the following in PT:
Sit ups in 2 min
45-73
Push ups in 2 min
39-68
2 mile
14:12-17:00 min
I am currently no where near this standard and am hoping to get some advice to move that direction quickly.
I am highly motivated and hungry to get this done, just need the tools to do so.
Thank you everyone!
Tyler
So I am planning on joining the Army soon. My timeline completely depends on me and my ability to meet the physical fitness standards that are currently in place. The first place I need to start is losing lbs and body fat.
I am currently at 281lbs and a 41% body fat. I started a 1200 cal high protein low sodium diet last week (03/28/19) ( I was at 289lbs and 49% body fat) and so far have lost 8lbs and 9% body fat just on the change. I have a feeling I will plateau soon and need to figure out ways to meet the 26% body fat standard the Army has while maintaining the ability to do the following in PT:
Sit ups in 2 min
45-73
Push ups in 2 min
39-68
2 mile
14:12-17:00 min
I am currently no where near this standard and am hoping to get some advice to move that direction quickly.
I am highly motivated and hungry to get this done, just need the tools to do so.
Thank you everyone!
Tyler
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Congrats on starting your journey. I do want to make a couple of notes though. I hope you don't take this as discouragement.
How are you measuring your body fat percentage? It is not possible to lose 9‰ of body fat in only 8 pounds at your size. Even if you were to lose 100% of your loss in body fat, it's about 2.8 pounds per percentage based on your weight. So you would need to lose quite a bit more body fat than to lose 9%. If you are using a scale, they are notoriously unreliable for body fat percentage. The army uses neck and waist measurements, so you should start with taking those. That will give you an idea of your body fat percentage according to army standards.
Additionally, 1200 is generally considered too low for a male. The amount recommended is no less than 1500. I'd recommend eating at least that. If you don't properly fuel yourself, you'll lose muscle in addition to fat. That won't help you meet army standards for body fat and it will also hinder your progress on the physical requirements.
There's no reason you should plateau soon, however you won't keep losing 8 pounds a week. A good portion of that loss was most likely water weight due to the change in your sodium intake. If you stay consistent with your calorie intake, you will continue to consistently lose weight.
I know you would like to get this done soon, but rushed weight loss isn't good for you and won't serve you well either to get in the army or once you are in it. Staying steady and consistent will get you there in the appropriate time.27 -
Congrats on starting your journey. I do want to make a couple of notes though. I hope you don't take this as discouragement.
How are you measuring your body fat percentage? It is not possible to lose 9‰ of body fat in only 8 pounds at your size. Even if you were to lose 100% of your loss in body fat, it's about 2.8 pounds per percentage based on your weight. So you would need to lose quite a bit more body fat than to lose 9%. If you are using a scale, they are notoriously unreliable for body fat percentage. The army uses neck and waist measurements, so you should start with taking those. That will give you an idea of your body fat percentage according to army standards.
Additionally, 1200 is generally considered too low for a male. The amount recommended is no less than 1500. I'd recommend eating at least that. If you don't properly fuel yourself, you'll lose muscle in addition to fat. That won't help you meet army standards for body fat and it will also hinder your progress on the physical requirements.
There's no reason you should plateau soon, however you won't keep losing 8 pounds a week. A good portion of that loss was most likely water weight due to the change in your sodium intake. If you stay cinssiten wihh your calorie intake, you will continue to consistently lose weight.
I know you would like to get this done soon, but rushed weight loss isn't good for you and won't serve you well either to get in the army or once you are in it. Staying steady and consistent will get you there in the appropriate time.
QFT!3 -
All this, twice.
You're looking at one to two years and even that will be fast for your brain. (Source: 12 to 18 months or so was plenty fast for mine--not sure when I hit 26% body fat, but I measured at a normal fat level for my age at about 23 to 24% based on a decade scan when I was normal BMI after 15 months or so)
My own suggestion would be to lose at 1800 to 2000 net calories, I e while eating 2300 or more calories and getting 500+++ calories from activity and exercise.
You may also prefer to be in better than minimum shape when you join.6 -
you need to eat more11
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I agree with the others. To summarize if you try to go too fast you will end up in worse shape. You will need to eat a lot more than 1200. Put your stats in MFP and eat the amount it tells you to eat and eat a portion of your exercise calories until you zero in on 2 pounds a week as your rate of loss.
It takes time and there is no healthy way around it.6 -
Didn't the army PT test change to include deadlifts and stuff?2
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mom23mangos wrote: »Didn't the army PT test change to include deadlifts and stuff?
I was thinking that too.
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2018/08/01/heres-an-early-draft-of-the-armys-new-fitness-test-standards/0 -
mom23mangos wrote: »Didn't the army PT test change to include deadlifts and stuff?
I was thinking that too.
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2018/08/01/heres-an-early-draft-of-the-armys-new-fitness-test-standards/
I don't believe the new standards take effect until late 2020, so based on likely progress, he will be close to the cut-over.0 -
Tjohnson3861 wrote: »Hey all!
So I am planning on joining the Army soon. My timeline completely depends on me and my ability to meet the physical fitness standards that are currently in place. The first place I need to start is losing lbs and body fat.
I am currently at 281lbs and a 41% body fat. I started a 1200 cal high protein low sodium diet last week (03/28/19) ( I was at 289lbs and 49% body fat) and so far have lost 8lbs and 9% body fat just on the change. I have a feeling I will plateau soon and need to figure out ways to meet the 26% body fat standard the Army has while maintaining the ability to do the following in PT:
Sit ups in 2 min
45-73
Push ups in 2 min
39-68
2 mile
14:12-17:00 min
I am currently no where near this standard and am hoping to get some advice to move that direction quickly.
I am highly motivated and hungry to get this done, just need the tools to do so.
Thank you everyone!
Tyler
No matter how highly motivated you are, you can't fly by flapping your arms. If you are currently nowhere near the standard, you are not going to get there 'soon'.
The maths is inescapable. To lose a pound requires eating 3500 calories less than you burn. To lose a pound a week, you need to eat 500 kcal under your maintenance every day, to lose two pounds per week you need to eat 1000 kcal under maintenance, etc. Very few people can eat that far under maintenance and still get enough nutrition to keep their body healthy. Your 8 lb loss was mostly water weight, and you will find genuine fat loss to be a lot slower.
The biology is also inescapable. If your deficit is very large your body won't be able to meet it just by burning fat, and will burn muscle as well. That is the opposite of what you want, especially as your heart is a muscle.
Losing bodyfat and gaining muscle and strength is a long, slow process and there is no way to speed it up. The good news is, the Army will still be there when you're done9 -
talk to the local army recruiting office - sometimes they will offer PT options for people who want to join - to start getting fit5
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What height are you. You are talking about dropping 25% body fat. Even if we are being super aggressive 1-1.5% per week is really a maximum and not long term sustainable. 2lbs is the recommended max and that is under 1% for you. So going with a 1% figure that will be 25 weeks or 6 months minimum at a very aggressive pace more likely a year. What does soon look like to you in terms of joining? You want to give yourself a reasonable set of expectations. Set yourself up with a 6 month goal. Drop your calories to something you feel is maintainable, 2000 calories is a good starting point. Keep that for two months, while also tracking how much you are exercising. figure out the numbers, how much are you eating, how much are you working out and how much weight are you losing. Use those numbers to figure out where you can get to by the 6 month mark. Get there and then reassess your goal for the Army at that point.3
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Thank you everyone! I had some of my facts WAAAY off base. I went out and bought a soft tape measure and did my measurements for both neck and stomach (around the naval in an equal fashion as instructed), this is the same method used by the Army to determine body fat percentage.
Here are all of my numbers as of 04/04/2019
Height - 72 inches
Neck - 19 inches
Stomach - 52 inches
Age - 28
Weight - 279
According to the Army calculation (and this is something that I know is disputed but it is the standard I have to hit) I am currently at 35% body fat.
I need to be at least 28% to meet entry standards.
Where I would like to be is at 18% or a 38 inch waist. My total weight is irrelevant to me but those are the measurements I am striving for.
I honestly don't have my burn out numbers yet for 2 mile, pushups or sit ups. I can update tonight when I have them for a baseline.
I am hoping for a deployment window of no longer than October 1st, 2019
Thank you everyone!2 -
Tjohnson3861 wrote: »Thank you everyone! I had some of my facts WAAAY off base. I went out and bought a soft tape measure and did my measurements for both neck and stomach (around the naval in an equal fashion as instructed), this is the same method used by the Army to determine body fat percentage.
Here are all of my numbers as of 04/04/2019
Height - 72 inches
Neck - 19 inches
Stomach - 52 inches
Age - 28
Weight - 279
According to the Army calculation (and this is something that I know is disputed but it is the standard I have to hit) I am currently at 35% body fat.
I need to be at least 28% to meet entry standards.
Where I would like to be is at 18% or a 38 inch waist. My total weight is irrelevant to me but those are the measurements I am striving for.
I honestly don't have my burn out numbers yet for 2 mile, pushups or sit ups. I can update tonight when I have them for a baseline.
I am hoping for a deployment window of no longer than October 1st, 2019
Thank you everyone!
But are you going to start eating more?5 -
Absolutely! I am going to strive for the 1,800 calorie a day intake. Side note as well, I am drinking a minimum of 64 oz of water and I am also taking Rainbowlight mens one to help with any of the vitamins I am missing from other sources. I am 100% not interested in destroying my body for the sake of meeting this goal quickly. I would much rather meet it at a rate that fits a healthy lifestyle.7
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On the fitness side of the equation, if you do too much too fast, especially at your size, the chance of injury is high and you'll be de-railed from your goal entirely. Spend time on general conditioning. If you have access to a gym, use the treadmill, elliptical and bike 3-4 days a week. A week or two into that routine, add in some full-body resistance training that includes planks and pushups to help with core strength and also to help maintain muscle as you lose weight. You WILL lose lean body mass but you want to minimize the muscle loss. After about a month of this, you'll most likely be ready for more intense physical work. But you need to fuel your body properly.4
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also your weight isn't irrelevant...unless they have seriously changed things - first step is height/weight check. then if you don't meet those standards, you get taped which is when they do their bodyfat % calculation1
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deannalfisher wrote: »talk to the local army recruiting office - sometimes they will offer PT options for people who want to join - to start getting fit
However, everything I've ever heard about people making armed forces standards with the help of the organization involved short-term solutions without much attention to sustainability or the long term health of the individual in question.
Weightlifters and boxers make weight... but I don't necessarily endorse their methods...1 -
Young man, I was in the Army and did what you want to do 46 years ago so I know the boot camp that awaits you. Plan on at least one year getting from where you are today to where you need to be for your first day of Army marching and PT.
Wishing you the best.6
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