Beating the odds?
TheRedQueen1981
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Hi everyone. I’ve been watching quite a lot of weight loss documentaries lately as a way to help with my motivation but there’s a common attitude I’m encountering; in several of them now, someone has said that people who have a significant amount of weight to lose, stand no chance in doing it without surgery. They were so negative about anyone having the ability to change their habits without having to go through gastric bypass.
I realise that for many people, this may be the case but I think they’re wrong in my case. I have about 150lbs to lose, which is a scary thought but I’m ten pounds down already and I’m very dedicated to doing this. I’ve adopted an entirely different mentality and have seen it as a complete lifestyle change as opposed to a short term diet.
Them negative comments have rubbed me up the wrong way and there’s absolutely no chance I’m going to put myself through such a serious procedure when I can do it myself through sheer determination and I know of many people who have done it — and kept the weight off. I’m wondering if these people just want to sell more gastric bypass surgeries!
Have any of you people beaten the odds?
I realise that for many people, this may be the case but I think they’re wrong in my case. I have about 150lbs to lose, which is a scary thought but I’m ten pounds down already and I’m very dedicated to doing this. I’ve adopted an entirely different mentality and have seen it as a complete lifestyle change as opposed to a short term diet.
Them negative comments have rubbed me up the wrong way and there’s absolutely no chance I’m going to put myself through such a serious procedure when I can do it myself through sheer determination and I know of many people who have done it — and kept the weight off. I’m wondering if these people just want to sell more gastric bypass surgeries!
Have any of you people beaten the odds?
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I think statistics is funny, and dangerous if it's abused. The fact that most people struggle with weightloss and regain doesn't have to affect you. Obesity is not contagious the way the flu is. Our weight is controlled by our behavior, and we can control our behavior. Many things makes it difficult to control our behavior, but if we do, we will manage weight.7
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Take a look through the "Success Stories" section on this site.
I would bet those weight loss "documentaries" have a financial angle they are exploiting.
Of course you can lose 150 pounds. Time and dedications!
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Exactly. A bit like a junkie can only come off the drugs if their will is stronger than their addiction. I believe I have the right attitude and a very strong will.3
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Go look at the success stories on this message board. There are plenty of people from all walks of life who've lost massive amounts of weight and maintained it afterwards. You've got to want it enough to take care of yourself. The rest is "easy".4
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First, you many people fail after having the surgery. Many also die due to complications. I personally know at least one in each category.
I lost over 100 lbs by eating less and exercising more. Most of it is still off. I have more work to do.
I actually lost the weight following the Weightwatchers program (on line only), but dropped it when they switched to a plan that wasn't sustainable for me.
The key thing from WW that you will need to figure out is how to eat. Things you thought were good for you really can cause trouble (think white rice and bread). Support is also important. I got mine through a WW message board called GOAD (Guys on a Diet). WW discontinued the message boards, which was another reason I quit. The remnants of GOAD actually still exist here in MFP.
Good luck. It isn't magic, but it is hard. Don't let anybody tell you it is easy. BUT, when you discover that you can run, jump, ski and not worry about what chair you sit in, it is very worth it.9 -
BUT, when you discover that you can run, jump, ski and not worry about what chair you sit in, it is very worth it.
This is precisely what motivates me. I absolutely love sports, especially adrenaline sports like skiing and surfing and I just cannot wait for the day that I’m able to get myself out there and doing these things again.
I believe that when I reach that milestone, I’ll be active all the time.
I’ve watched a lot about weight loss surgery and it’s true — most of them seem to lose a tremendous amount and then sit at a certain stage afterwards. Great for them but that’s not the road I’m choosing. I know I’m strong enough to do this myself.
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lcy_stewart wrote: »BUT, when you discover that you can run, jump, ski and not worry about what chair you sit in, it is very worth it.
I believe that when I reach that milestone, I’ll be active all the time.
I’ve watched a lot about weight loss surgery and it’s true — most of them seem to lose a tremendous amount and then sit at a certain stage afterwards. Great for them but that’s not the road I’m choosing. I know I’m strong enough to do this myself.
Couple of things - Don't wait to start having fun. Start as soon as you can, doing what you can. Hike if you can't run. Kayak, whatever. Change your life and start thinking about yourself as an active, fit person - but a work in progress. Think about lifting. ANYBODY can lift weights. Look at Starting Strength program. For cardio, bike and elliptical is easy on the joints.
Re: Surgery - if all you want is skinny it may be viable. YOU want athletic and active. You will need to eat when you get there and on the way. You might want to lift or whatever, the surgery (IMO) could hamper getting the all the right nutrients.
Also, don't attempt to get it done overnight. This WILL be a two year job, if you are lucky. Don't put your life on hold until you're done. Don't rush it and get discouraged. Once you lose about 30 lbs, you will notice and so will other people. Buy new clothes and enjoy your smaller but not there yet body.4 -
http://suethsayings.blogspot.com/
Read through this blog, been at it for 12 years now. She has the stats and citations and medical background. She's all about CICO. Me, too
http://suethsayings.blogspot.com/2017/01/lap-band-must-be-removed-within-5-years.html
"5% of people on non surgical weight loss programs can keep off the weight. With weight loss surgery it's only 7% even with more invasive procedures like the gastric bypass. Many weight loss surgery surgeons don't expect patients to keep off any more than half their excess weight in the long run even when they are putting in the work, but again, how many seminars tell that to prospective patients who are typically 100 and 200 lbs over their "goal weight"?"
Beating the odds. There's no such thing as the Finish Line. The 5 year benchmark is where the rubber meets the road. How many go on to maintain their major weight loss after 5 years, read through all of the blog.
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It's been a while since I posted in here but thought I'd update it -- I've now lost well over 60lbs. I'm still determined and am working very hard. I have already proven myself and am proud of myself. Can't wait to lose more though!29
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The magic happens in your head. You knew that. Thanks for the update!2
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TheRedQueen1981 wrote: »It's been a while since I posted in here but thought I'd update it -- I've now lost well over 60lbs. I'm still determined and am working very hard. I have already proven myself and am proud of myself. Can't wait to lose more though!
Well done. Congratulations!! Best wishes on your journey to goal weight (and beyond).1 -
Congrats on your progress OP!
It is possible to lose a lot of weight without surgery and keep it off.
I've been overweight/obese my entire adult life. I lost over 80 pounds on my own through being aware of my calorie intake and exercise.
Now I'm in my 6th year of maintenance with no regain outside of my maintenance range.
It took time, consistency and hard work but I still have stay vigilant everyday to keep the weight off and stay fit.
What keeps me going is that I'm never "done". I'm always trying to improve myself, create new goals, try new fitness activities, purchase new toys for my home gym, try new recipes, read a new health or fitness book from the library etc.
From what I see however it is difficult for many to keep the weight off long-term, but it is possible.6 -
Thanks everyone. This is most certainly a mental challenge more than anything and I think anyone who embarks on the weight loss journey needs to realise that it's a permanent mental challenge; I think acknowledging this from the get go is the best thing and will set people up much better for success. Having said that...I know the word 'challenge' maybe makes it sound difficult but it's really not...at least not always. It's often easy, especially when you are losing consistently and feel so proud of yourself that you feel capable of tackling anything. There's obviously bad days but they will be there regardless so may as well have bad days whilst also having amazing days.0
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TheRedQueen1981 wrote: »It's been a while since I posted in here but thought I'd update it -- I've now lost well over 60lbs. I'm still determined and am working very hard. I have already proven myself and am proud of myself. Can't wait to lose more though!
Way to go. You got this.
My original loss was 140lbs (reached in 2016). I did gain some back after surgery, but not much. I’m not even 100% sure the weight I originally reached was sustainable for me. My profile pic is current and only about 14lbs heavier than my lowest weight. I am hoping I can continue to keep most of the fat I lost off long term.1 -
shadow2soul wrote: »TheRedQueen1981 wrote: »It's been a while since I posted in here but thought I'd update it -- I've now lost well over 60lbs. I'm still determined and am working very hard. I have already proven myself and am proud of myself. Can't wait to lose more though!
Way to go. You got this.
My original loss was 140lbs (reached in 2016). I did gain some back after surgery, but not much. I’m not even 100% sure the weight I originally reached was sustainable for me. My profile pic is current and only about 14lbs heavier than my lowest weight. I am hoping I can continue to keep most of the fat I lost off long term.
Wow, you look amazing. Well done to you for maintaining such a huge weight loss. You're now one of my inspirations.
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That's just silly. I've lost 85 pounds so far and have 40 to go...I did it mostly with just eating less and eating better. I just started exercise a month ago. Now granted I've been doing this for 2 years and haven't hit maintenance yet, but I like my new life so I see no reason as to why I'd ever go back. I'm sure others can fill you in on maintenance1
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That's just silly. I've lost 85 pounds so far and have 40 to go...I did it mostly with just eating less and eating better. I just started exercise a month ago. Now granted I've been doing this for 2 years and haven't hit maintenance yet, but I like my new life so I see no reason as to why I'd ever go back. I'm sure others can fill you in on maintenance
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I actually don't think that the statistics are very good on this. We hear the 5% number bandied about, but that is one piece of data based on a very limited set of circumstances. We hear it repeated often because it makes for good blog articles, and because people love to be bearers of bad news.
Here's a link I just saw which, although it still claims that many people regain weight, paints a much better statistical picture:
Summary: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/04/160402112741.htm
Abstract: https://www.endocrine.org/meetings/endo-annual-meetings/abstract-details?ID=24110&ID=24110Patients who lost more weight early on were more likely to continue to lose weight over time. Among patients with modest weight loss, 23.1 percent maintained their weight and 2.0 percent continued to lose weight over the two-year monitoring period; in those with moderate weight loss, 14.1 percent maintained their weight loss and 4.1 percent continued to lose weight; and in those with high weight loss, 19.4 percent maintained their weight and 11.1 percent continued to lose weight.1 -
Try looking up The National Weight Control Registry (NWCR) and its lead researcher James O. Hill.
The NWCR studies people who have lost a fair amount of weight and managed to keep that weight off for 1 year or more.1 -
I actually don't think that the statistics are very good on this. We hear the 5% number bandied about, but that is one piece of data based on a very limited set of circumstances. We hear it repeated often because it makes for good blog articles, and because people love to be bearers of bad news.
Here's a link I just saw which, although it still claims that many people regain weight, paints a much better statistical picture:
Summary: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/04/160402112741.htm
Abstract: https://www.endocrine.org/meetings/endo-annual-meetings/abstract-details?ID=24110&ID=24110Patients who lost more weight early on were more likely to continue to lose weight over time. Among patients with modest weight loss, 23.1 percent maintained their weight and 2.0 percent continued to lose weight over the two-year monitoring period; in those with moderate weight loss, 14.1 percent maintained their weight loss and 4.1 percent continued to lose weight; and in those with high weight loss, 19.4 percent maintained their weight and 11.1 percent continued to lose weight.
Interesting indeed. Thanks for sharing.
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magnusthenerd wrote: »Try looking up The National Weight Control Registry (NWCR) and its lead researcher James O. Hill.
The NWCR studies people who have lost a fair amount of weight and managed to keep that weight off for 1 year or more.
Never heard of this. Thanks for the suggestion.0 -
WOW... 60lbs... amazing progress, well done!0
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TheRedQueen1981 wrote: »It's been a while since I posted in here but thought I'd update it -- I've now lost well over 60lbs. I'm still determined and am working very hard. I have already proven myself and am proud of myself. Can't wait to lose more though!
60lbs is brilliant - well done OP !! This has given me the encouraging nudge I didnt quite realise I needed today, so thank you !0 -
I love "odds"! I have never won anything material in my life, because "the odds" were against me. BUT: I am having a great life, I have seen half the world, have met the most amazing people, I am still reasonably healthy and I have finally (just over a year ago) found MFP and all those great members who are always prepared to give advise and inspiration. So now I am on this weight loss journey - need to lose about 80 or more kg ( 175 pounds? ) and the odds are with my effort - because I think so and I believe so. My wife is my best support, MFP has done all the calculations for me, so many members are always here to help and I take it meal by meal, day by day. It is all about mindset, trying to be positive, changing to a healthier lifestyle and trying to learn something new every day. Started just over a year ago, lost so far 32 kg (70 pounds.) So what can go wrong? Winning every day, because "the odds" say so!0
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Nothing is impossible if you have the right frame of mind and the will to see it through.
My Doctor, whom I have been a patient for 24 years, had told me over the years that it would be very difficult for me to lose weight given my health conditions. I lost 26 lbs. in 3 months and in the last 4 I've dropped another 9 lbs. Slow progress but progress none the less.
I have another 40 lbs. to lose and I simply will not give up until it is done! When I falter, usually at meal time, I just pick up where I left of the previous day and keep going.
You are on the right track. Keep it up!1
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