Plantar fasciitis
MIM49
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Night splint. Wonder if I will be able to sleep with it on. Have had Plantar fasciitis since mid-December. Not getting any better. Feeling desperate.
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Night splint works and also inserts in your shoes (pro steps) is good. These 2 things along with a cortisone shot is what helped me.2
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I went to The Good Feet Store and got fitted with ridiculously expensive inserts that can be replaced for life for a nominal cost. They've made a positive difference in my life--after the sticker shock! They sold me an entire system of 4 different inserts, pads, and I also bought a pair of Brooks running shoes. It was about $1000.00 out the door. I found you later, I didn't have to buy the whole system and could have just bought one set of inserts for much less. The idea is that you need to "train your feet" to get used to the inserts by wearing a low pair for a while, followed by an intermediate pair and then the final pair. I got two sets of the final pair. They are the only ones I've worn beyond the first week and I certainly could have gone without the whole system.
I get the pair I wear replaced twice a year for about $20.00. They also "re-fit" me each time to see if that is still the correct pair for my feet.3 -
I have had 2 shots in the heel, maybe 10 years apart. The pain disappeared immediately. It did hurt a bit but just for 10ish seconds. Feel better.0
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I've lived with flat feet and plantar fasciitis for years. If you're in excruciating pain and the boot isn't helping, I also recommend seeing your doctor and requesting the cortisone injection. I've had this done twice on both feet and it has offered immediate relief and relief that lasts about a couple months. However, when I finally got inserts my life changed forever. Like @texasredreb I also went to The Good Feet store and got fitted for inserts. Unlike them, I only bought two pairs though -- the dailies and the exercise ones. It was definitely expensive but still cost less than getting custom made ones. In retrospect, I wish I had gotten just one pair because I mostly wear the ones they suggest you wear for exercising. Anyway, they replace them for very cheap for life. I have had mine since 2016 and haven't needed them replaced yet. The price was definitely worth it for the fact that I've been relatively pain free for 3 years after nearly a decade of pain and that plus all the mobility I got back is invaluable.
I also use a spiky massage ball every morning and night to massage the bottoms of my feet. It helps a lot! Like this one: 321 STRONG Spike Massage Ball - Foot Massager for Plantar Fasciitis https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LBEFU62/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_otsYCb2M03DQE
I hope you get some relief soon, @MIM49!2 -
I have had it in the past. It doesn't come back. I do an almost daily exercise. Before getting out of bed point your toes down hard - count to 10, then point them back hard - count to 10. Do this 10 times. If you're having a flareup do it more often. I've found that a flareup is usually caused by shoes that lack support, or are getting older. Rolling a tennis ball under your foot while watching TV is also helpful.3
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I found that physical therapy and custom made inserts help tremendously. I did have to give up running and find other ways to exercise, or it would flare up.0
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snowflake954 wrote: »I have had it in the past. It doesn't come back. I do an almost daily exercise. Before getting out of bed point your toes down hard - count to 10, then point them back hard - count to 10. Do this 10 times. If you're having a flareup do it more often. I've found that a flareup is usually caused by shoes that lack support, or are getting older. Rolling a tennis ball under your foot while watching TV is also helpful.
I was going to ask if you’ve tried any stretches or exercises like this. This is what helped me with PF. Here’s a video with some examples.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z-R7WRFznE0 -
Revamped my footwear, supportive sandals. Orthotics in my runners, compression sock all day bar sleeping for 6 months. Now I can run without orthotics, but I do notice that my foot has some residual tightness and stretching still helps heaps.0
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I used the night splint for a little while and it definitely helped. It is not the most comfortable thing, but it worked quickly and I only needed it for about a month. After that, I was able to keep it under control with stretching and wearing orthotics in my shoes. So I stopped using the splint at that point.
A little advice: if you are a side sleeper, put a pillow between your knees/calves. If you sleep on your back, put a pillow under your knees. The foot position is not necessarily uncomfortable; it's the splint banging into your other leg that is uncomfortable! If you can wear sweatpants over the splint when you sleep, that would help too but it might be too hot at this time of year.2 -
I found night splints uncomfortable and reduced my sleep, so before trying them, stretch your arches every 15 minutes and calves every hour, for 30 seconds. Use a reminder app to stay on schedule.
What do you think started the PF?0 -
I've also been battling PF since last summer. I'm on my second cortisone shot. They really make a difference but they wear off after a while. I have a night splint that my dr told me to wear for a minimum of 2 hours a night. I also have orthotics that my dr sold me ($50). I don't wear them as much as I should as they don't fit in all my shoes. it's going to be a bigger problem going into summer when I usually wear sandals and flip flops.
I find that stretching really helps, as does icing and the spiky ball. My dr said if the pain comes back after this shot he'll send me to PT.0 -
I'm a light sleeper and had concerns about it as well but I found it tolerable. In fact the return on the investment was well worth it. I slept with it every night for two weeks and after that started only wearing it occasionally and it’s done it’s job. I haven’t had any issue in months which is surprising considering the crazy looking heel spur I have, it looks like a dang talon.
As others stated above, I also revamp my life style. I go barefooted far less than I use to, I wear supportive footwear in the house, back yard and even on the beach. I do stretches to reduce tightness as well.
Good luck and best fishes.1 -
My tip to fellow PF sufferers is to always wear supportive shoes --spend the extra money it's worth it. I'll for go fashion for support any day of the week, although I'm finding that more and more fashionable shoes are providing some amount of arch support and/or I'm able to add my Good Feet arch supports to them.
A tip from my podiatrist is to never go barefoot, except in the shower and to never wear flip flops or thong type sandals without a supportive foot bed. I don't wear flip flops or thongs, but I do wear Birkenstocks and Chacos.
I've found that one of my three pairs of inserts will fit into just about every shoe I have except for the Birkenstocks, but they have enough arch support that I don't need them in those shoes. I use my lesser used pairs in heels and other non-daily wear shoes so I'm getting minimal use of them.
My arches fell about 2" when I first went to the doctor. I used self foot massage and the GFS products along with quality shoes and haven't needed any cortisone shots or nighttime supports. I don't walk barefoot ever, not even from my bed to the toilet in the middle of the night.2 -
doing the foot and leg stretches as some of these folks have suggested is key! also rolling it out on a ball or frozen water bottle hurts like hell ut helps1
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Do a search. There are lots of people who have had this and asked for advice. It's not going away because you're either not treating it, or you're too active and aggravating it. Mine is totally gone, but it took a lot of work and patience.0
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The splint/brace is fabulous! I had plantar fasciitis in both feet while working in a precast concrete plant 15+ hours a day.
The splint/brace is so fabulous that sometimes I wear it now just because I like the stretch it gives my feet.
I didn't rest mine, I couldn't with work, not for long anyway.... so I had it for 3 months.
Roll a frozen water bottle under your foot, do a google search for stretches and do them religiously, take ibuprofen as needed, be mindful when standing up after being seated for a bit. You got this!1 -
Many excellent pieces of advice already given that I use, as well. I also wear these compression arches, and they have made a huge difference.
https://www.amazon.com/SB-SOX-Compression-Sleeves-Women/dp/B078SG2J8T/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?keywords=sb+sox+compression+arch+sleeves&qid=1556732205&s=gateway&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1
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150poundsofme wrote: »I have had 2 shots in the heel, maybe 10 years apart. The pain disappeared immediately. It did hurt a bit but just for 10ish seconds. Feel better.
Thanks. I had 2 cortisone shots a month apart. Unfortunately did not help at all. Caused cortisone flare. Pain was intense. Lasted 3 days.0 -
snowflake954 wrote: »I have had it in the past. It doesn't come back. I do an almost daily exercise. Before getting out of bed point your toes down hard - count to 10, then point them back hard - count to 10. Do this 10 times. If you're having a flareup do it more often. I've found that a flareup is usually caused by shoes that lack support, or are getting older. Rolling a tennis ball under your foot while watching TV is also helpful.
I was going to ask if you’ve tried any stretches or exercises like this. This is what helped me with PF. Here’s a video with some examples.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z-R7WRFznE
Yes. I think the stretching exercises have caused more microtears in the fascia as pain has increased 10 fold since starting exercises. I am doing a lot of icing, resting, and wearing the splint. I have inserts but have found Birkenstocks give the most relief. So far 2 different podiatrists have not done much. Both say it can take awhile to get better.0 -
I get this from time to time.
*I've never tried the night splint, but I will prop my toes against something while sleeping. Either a wall, or tuck the sheets in and prop it against the sheets. It puts my foot in similar position and stretches it out while I sleep.
*Use a tennis ball and roll your foot over the top of it every day, using as firm of pressure as you can stand.
*Stretch your feet out daily.
Stand on a stair while holding on to the bannister, and let your feet hang from the ball of your feet. You should feel this in your calves, Achilles tendon, and your heel.
Do an against wall calf stretch, where you put your hands against the wall, and your leg behind you. Try to lean into the stretch enough to feel it through your calves and Achilles tendon.
Another simple one, sit on your knees with your toes pressed against the ground. Hold this pose for a few minutes. Like this:
Also, it helps me to rotate my shoes around. If I wear the same shoes for too long I seem to get it. Probably because the shoes are getting worn out and losing their support. And, I'm too cheap to go buy new ones, lol.
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Yes. I think the stretching exercises have caused more microtears in the fascia as pain has increased 10 fold since starting exercises. I am doing a lot of icing, resting, and wearing the splint. I have inserts but have found Birkenstocks give the most relief. So far 2 different podiatrists have not done much. Both say it can take awhile to get better.
I'm sorry to hear that. It sounds like a really bad situation.
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I have had it and my hubby also. He took cortisone shot, I didn't. He got some expensive insoles but later got some at Walmart for about $50 which did just as good, I did the same. It got better, comes and goes but we have not had it for a long time now, like years since we have had it. They had a machine there you stand on and it tells you the insoles to buy.0
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Mine was so bad I couldn't sleep. I went to the podiatrist and had some inserts made. Total life saver. It is completely gone, now. I still wear them on walks, but I don't have to wear them all the time.
Also, stand on a step with your toes and lower your heels. It's a good stretch for the pain.
Good luck.1 -
Since shoes like birkenstock are giving you relief you might look into other orthopedic shoe brands as well. One of my favorite is Alegria. Most of thier shoes have removable & replacable footbeds that accomodate orthodic insoles. But thier stock insoles mold to your feet for a supportive, custom fit too. Other brands too look into would be Dansko, & Klogs. You might mess around on this site, there are tons of reviews of shoes of various brands and styles pertaining to all kinds of foot issues. Here's the Plantar Fasciitis page1
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Ok, Tennis Ball helps. Achilles tendon calf stretches, Foam roll your Calves, freeze a plastic bottle of water. And INSOLES in your shoes0
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i always start the night with the splint on, but it typically comes off around 2am because its uncomfortable...
first thing in the morning i do the toe flex exercises as mentioned above; i also spell letters with my toes - it helps to break up the lesions that form over night
also finding a massage therapist who does a) graston or b) myofasical release was like a night and day improvement1 -
Custom made orthotics - solved the problem not immediately but quickly and completely they were about $500 for the pair, but covered by my insurance - but i would happily pay that for the difference they make0
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I have it. Ended up going to a podiatrist - he’s amazing. I got orthotics- still use them since I am flat footed.We tried a night splint. I slept like a baby with it but didn’t provide much relief (it helped some) I went to physical therapy but it didn’t help. An mri revealed a torn band in my foot and I had to wear a special boot. This was right before Thanksgiving and I had to keep it on til sometime in January. I’m still wearing what I call a sock bandage. (It’s like a footless sock the doctor measured out for me)
This all started last June! I still do foot exercises (like others suggested) and only do low impact cardio workouts.
I hope yours isn’t as bad as mine and heals up soon!1 -
Mine went away when I took up swimming - I am guessing all that kicking streched out my feet/calves etc.
I do yoga now - so my ham strings are very much more flexible, so are my calves and my feet muscles are stronger. Haven’t had PF in a long while.
There is a school of thought on PF that insoles can help but do not fix the underlying problem (weak arches, tight leg muscles) that you might want to read up on (look into barefoot shoes etc).
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