Can this actually be true?

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  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    There are hundreds of articles on the internet that have undeniable proof to both sides.. so why bother with articles, just do what works for you. Water works for me!!

    There is NO article on the internet with undeniable proof that we need 8 glasses of plain water a day. There might ne sites that recommend it, but the 8 glasses a day is not a medical recommendation. It's not really bad either, but you need to keep in mind that when medical studies talk about water they are not talking about PLAIN water. Beverages are all mostly water, and so are many foods. And that's what the human body needs. Water.
  • mikeyml
    mikeyml Posts: 568 Member
    This guy is a professor at one of the best medical schools in the world and he specializes in kidney function. I'm sure that if we actually read the study that this guy published, it wouldn't be so controversial. Actually, if you're interested it's here: http://jasn.asnjournals.org/content/19/6/1041.full
  • peteb79
    peteb79 Posts: 386
    Are we talking about survival?, I am sorry, I thought this was fitness website.

    Not regarding "survival" (are the zombies coming??) There ARE articles on the internet that point to saying water has benefits in being healthy, which is the other 'side' I was referring to.. Once again.. and its really quite simple, do what works for you... Water still works for me.
  • carrie1128
    carrie1128 Posts: 267 Member
    Yes, it's true. I really can't believe that people still believe you have to drink plain water for health or weigh loss. I didn't really need any studies to tell me that since I primarily drink tea (iced or hot) but there is plenty of evidence that plain water is not needed out there for anyone that cares to take a minute or two to find it.

    Honestly, I've never knew there were so many water obsessed people till I joined this site. It's crazy!
    LOL, and I've never seen so many people so repulsed and opposed to water before coming to this site.:laugh: I don't get forcing yourself to drink gallons a day but why so much hate?
  • maserati185
    maserati185 Posts: 263 Member
    Some of us need hours of labs, data, documentation and discussion to figure out that the grass is green and the wind blows... and even then, don't get it right. :)
  • EvaJanes
    EvaJanes Posts: 37 Member
    After everything I have read on the internet I have learned how to read between the lines and find backup evidence through reliable sources.
    Everyone is different in the actually amount of water that you need to ingest (notice I say ingest and not drink). Everything that we eat/drink for the most part contains water. By the time the water/tea/pepsi/koolaid hits your blood stream its water with just a bunch of different stuff thrown in there.

    A good way to tell if you are getting enough hydration or not enough is by checking the color of your urine. Ifs it a dark yellow drink more, ifs its clear with no color at all you are drinking too much and this could cause you to throw off your electrolyte balance. Your urine should be a pale yellow. BTW taking some multivitamins can make you pee NEON yellow due to the high amounts of vitamin B

    medical personal have no ides where the 8 glasses a day came from....BTW if you are standing be the sink trying to drink your 64oz in 10 minutes you are missing the piont entirely. Your fluid intake needs to be spaced out over the entire course of the day. Drinking to much and then running to the bathroom 25 minutes later just means you are still going to be dehydrated 5 hours later if you don't ingest more fluids.
  • odusgolp
    odusgolp Posts: 10,477 Member

    If you read the article, it really is not as controversial as this thread is making it sound.


    Kinda what I was thinkin. It's just saying it's not a miracle thing that's going to make you lose weight. And I actually like that it points out drinking too much water is in fact not good for your kidneys. Water alone, is not going to make you lose weight. It's saying zero calories is zero calories.
  • odusgolp
    odusgolp Posts: 10,477 Member
    Some of us need hours of labs, data, documentation and discussion to figure out that the grass is green and the wind blows... and even then, don't get it right. :)


    BWAHAHAHAHA! I like you :)
  • odusgolp
    odusgolp Posts: 10,477 Member
    This guy is a professor at one of the best medical schools in the world and he specializes in kidney function. I'm sure that if we actually read the study that this guy published, it wouldn't be so controversial. Actually, if you're interested it's here: http://jasn.asnjournals.org/content/19/6/1041.full

    Can I have you puppy??? PLEASE???? c'mon Mikey.
  • aj_rock
    aj_rock Posts: 390 Member
    8 glasses a day has been debunked time and time again. I will maintain that whatever amount you drink, if you aren't ever thirsty, and you don't have to whiz every five minutes... your intake is FINE :P
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    Yes, it's true. I really can't believe that people still believe you have to drink plain water for health or weigh loss. I didn't really need any studies to tell me that since I primarily drink tea (iced or hot) but there is plenty of evidence that plain water is not needed out there for anyone that cares to take a minute or two to find it.

    Honestly, I've never knew there were so many water obsessed people till I joined this site. It's crazy!
    LOL, and I've never seen so many people so repulsed and opposed to water before coming to this site.:laugh: I don't get forcing yourself to drink gallons a day but why so much hate?

    Just the desire to be right, or a general love of arguing would be my guess. Or boredom.
  • Fat_2_Fit_Mommy
    Fat_2_Fit_Mommy Posts: 569 Member
    I don't think I believe that. But I think I am going to stick with my water!!!
  • mikeyml
    mikeyml Posts: 568 Member
    This guy is a professor at one of the best medical schools in the world and he specializes in kidney function. I'm sure that if we actually read the study that this guy published, it wouldn't be so controversial. Actually, if you're interested it's here: http://jasn.asnjournals.org/content/19/6/1041.full

    Can I have you puppy??? PLEASE???? c'mon Mikey.

    What's a puppy among friends, I mean really. Actually we can trade. You give me beer and funny stories, I give you the puppy.
  • starracer23
    starracer23 Posts: 1,011 Member
    You can survive for 40 days without food...you will die after 3 or so days without water....what do you think?? Is water THAT important??
  • Harkins86
    Harkins86 Posts: 58 Member
    All I know is, it works for me! I used to get horrible headaches on a daily basis, my doctor checked all the usual causes and suggested it was simply dehydration (I never used to drink water, it was about 1 glass of fruit juice in the morning and maybe a glass of coke at night!) 3 months ago, I started drinking no less than 8 cups a day and I rarely ever get headaches now.

    Plus sugary drinks and those high in caffeine give me migraines, as well as being full of empty calories. Swapping to water usually benefits people trying to lose weight for that reason alone.

    Same for me! Drinking water stops my headaches and makes me feel good. I used to confuse hunger with thirst too.
  • odusgolp
    odusgolp Posts: 10,477 Member
    This guy is a professor at one of the best medical schools in the world and he specializes in kidney function. I'm sure that if we actually read the study that this guy published, it wouldn't be so controversial. Actually, if you're interested it's here: http://jasn.asnjournals.org/content/19/6/1041.full

    Can I have you puppy??? PLEASE???? c'mon Mikey.

    What's a puppy among friends, I mean really. Actually we can trade. You give me beer and funny stories, I give you the puppy.

    You SO have yourself a deal :)
  • joejccva71
    joejccva71 Posts: 2,985 Member
    ...consumption of diet soda at least daily was associated with significantly greater risks of select incident metabolic syndrome components and type 2 diabetes.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2660468/

    Nutr Rev. 2010 Sep;68(9):505-21.
    Impact of water intake on energy intake and weight status: a systematic review.
    Daniels MC, Popkin BM.
    SourceDepartment of Nutrition, School of Public Health at the University of North Carolina in Chapel Hill, North Carolina, USA.

    Abstract
    The effects of consuming water with meals rather than drinking no beverage or various other beverages remain under-studied. This systematic review of studies reported in the English-language literature was performed to compare the effects of drinking water and various beverage alternatives on energy intake and/or weight status. Relevant clinical trials, epidemiologic studies, and intervention studies were identified and findings across the literature were summarized. From the clinical trials, average differences were calculated in total energy intake at test meals (DeltaTEI) for each of several beverage categories in comparison with water. The available literature for these comparisons is sparse and somewhat inconclusive. However, one of the most consistent sets of findings was related to adults drinking sugar-sweetened beverages (SSBs) versus water before a single meal. In these comparisons, total energy intakes were 7.8% higher (DeltaTEI range, -7.5 to 18.9) when SSBs were consumed. Studies comparing non-nutritive sweeteners with water were also relatively consistent and found no impact on energy intake among adults (DeltaTEI, -1.3; range, -9 to 13.8). Much less conclusive evidence was found in studies replacing water with milk and juice, with estimated increases in TEI of 14.9% (range, 10.9 to 23.9%). These findings from clinical trials, along with those from epidemiologic and intervention studies, suggest water has a potentially important role to play in reducing energy intake, and consequently in obesity prevention. A need for randomized-controlled trials to confirm this role exists.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20796216
  • knittnponder
    knittnponder Posts: 1,953 Member
    Someone should send the link to my husband's kidney stones. Oh wait, he doesn't get them when he's drinking plenty of water!
  • mrmanmeat
    mrmanmeat Posts: 1,968 Member
    This article actually says diet soda is just as effective as water.
    Do you believe everything you read? There are so many reasons it is wrong, but I'll just keep it simple... even if 8cups of water a day is a myth, when have you EVER heard someone say "8 cups of diet soda a day is good for your health"

    I'm not saying I believe it. I drink over 100 oz of water every day.
    I just thought it was funny that this is now a story.

    It's NPR. I didn't realize anyone took them seriously.
  • Water helps me and that is all I care about. When I drink water I don't retain water, I feel better and look better too. And all those calories I burn running to the bathroom every 5 min....seriously! lol
  • odusgolp
    odusgolp Posts: 10,477 Member
    This article actually says diet soda is just as effective as water.
    Do you believe everything you read? There are so many reasons it is wrong, but I'll just keep it simple... even if 8cups of water a day is a myth, when have you EVER heard someone say "8 cups of diet soda a day is good for your health"

    I'm not saying I believe it. I drink over 100 oz of water every day.
    I just thought it was funny that this is now a story.

    It's NPR. I didn't realize anyone took them seriously.

    bwahah!!! (((love)))
  • ehlertmartha
    ehlertmartha Posts: 78 Member
    So what is the best thing to drink then if we cant have our dam water cause i was just getting used to it kinda
  • odusgolp
    odusgolp Posts: 10,477 Member
    So what is the best thing to drink then if we cant have our dam water cause i was just getting used to it kinda

    Regular water. No dam necessary, so it's much easier to acquire.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    So what is the best thing to drink then if we cant have our dam water cause i was just getting used to it kinda

    Drink water if you want. Just think of drinks the same as you would food. Avoid too much sugar or sodium, try to keep it natural and healthy, yadda, yadda, yadda.
  • MassiveDelta
    MassiveDelta Posts: 3,271 Member
    its true. You are supposed to drink kool-aid, beer or wine. Period.

    Wrong Liquor before beer
  • SirBen81
    SirBen81 Posts: 396 Member
    There are hundreds of articles on the internet that have undeniable proof to both sides.. so why bother with articles, just do what works for you. Water works for me!!

    100% agree!

    Agreed too. I do just enough research to know something won't kill me, and then I try it and judge it based on what it does to me.

    Also, it makes sense that drinking water isn't much different then diet soda, since diet soda is 99% water.
  • Grokette
    Grokette Posts: 3,330 Member
    I would read it, but I don't belive it, we are made of mostly water so I truely belive we need water, end of story!

    I agree with this and add fat to that list too.

    Our brains are primarily fat and water. It is imperitive to have plenty of both of these items in our lifestyle for proper body functions.
  • jenblowsbubblez
    jenblowsbubblez Posts: 112 Member
    All I know is, it works for me! I used to get horrible headaches on a daily basis, my doctor checked all the usual causes and suggested it was simply dehydration (I never used to drink water, it was about 1 glass of fruit juice in the morning and maybe a glass of coke at night!) 3 months ago, I started drinking no less than 8 cups a day and I rarely ever get headaches now.

    Plus sugary drinks and those high in caffeine give me migraines, as well as being full of empty calories. Swapping to water usually benefits people trying to lose weight for that reason alone.


    agree!!!! bc i drink more water,, my headaches and migraines are probably down 90%!!!
  • As a nurse I can tell you that drinking water is very important. Why do we give people IV fluids when they are sick? Why is it important to stay hydrated when you work out or when it is hot outside? You don't even need to hear this from anybody or read about it....Just listen to your own body.
  • Grokette
    Grokette Posts: 3,330 Member
    As a nurse I can tell you that drinking water is very important. Why do we give people IV fluids when they are sick? Why is it important to stay hydrated when you work out or when it is hot outside? You don't even need to hear this from anybody or read about it....Just listen to your own body.

    It should be common sense, but apparantly its not..............
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