8 week blood sugar diet

Hello
is there a group chat thread anywhere on here for this diet? Thanks

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  • Justin_7272
    Justin_7272 Posts: 341 Member
    I've never heard of this, but a cursory look here and I'd have to agree this sounds unhealthy (https://thebloodsugardiet.com/); 800 calories per day is too low.

    I see they're also promoting a 5/2 program, with only 2 days at 800 calories, but this is still inadvisable; to balance out to the minimum 1,200 per day you'd need to eat 1,360 the other 5 days. Just screams recipe for disaster.
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  • zeejane4
    zeejane4 Posts: 230 Member
    edited May 2019
    I've never heard of this, but a cursory look here and I'd have to agree this sounds unhealthy (https://thebloodsugardiet.com/); 800 calories per day is too low.

    I see they're also promoting a 5/2 program, with only 2 days at 800 calories, but this is still inadvisable; to balance out to the minimum 1,200 per day you'd need to eat 1,360 the other 5 days. Just screams recipe for disaster.

    Before Mosley went off the deep end with this 800 calories a day, every day nonsense, his 5:2IF approach was actually pretty solid. I did it during the time that I was transitioning into maintenance and it worked well for me. The difference between the two plans is that with 5:2IF you only have 2 lower calorie days a week and then 5 maintenance level days a week. And you don't do the 2 lower calorie days back to back. This is just a fancy way of calorie cycling/zig-zagging. Many people move their calories around throughout the week to give a buffer for the weekends, special events etc. and it's similar to that.

    The blood sugar plan does 800 calories a day, every day though, and there's no higher, maintenance level days mixed in. This has disaster written all over it and really shouldn't be done, unless prescribed and monitored by a doctor.

    To elaborate a bit more on 5:2IF, using my numbers as an example-I would take my TDEE and multiply that by 7 (days). Then I would subtract 3,500 (1lb a week loss goal), and then I would subtract 1,600 (to represent the 2 low calorie days), and then divide the remaining number by 5 (days). This would give my an eating pattern of 5 days a week at 1,640 calories per day and then the 2 days at 800 calories a day, (when I did 5:2 my low cal days were Mondays and Thursdays).
  • zeejane4
    zeejane4 Posts: 230 Member
    NovusDies wrote: »
    zeejane4 wrote: »
    I've never heard of this, but a cursory look here and I'd have to agree this sounds unhealthy (https://thebloodsugardiet.com/); 800 calories per day is too low.

    I see they're also promoting a 5/2 program, with only 2 days at 800 calories, but this is still inadvisable; to balance out to the minimum 1,200 per day you'd need to eat 1,360 the other 5 days. Just screams recipe for disaster.

    Before Mosley went off the deep end with this 800 calories a day, every day nonsense, his 5:2IF approach was actually pretty solid. I did it during the time that I was transitioning into maintenance and it worked well for me. The difference between the two plans is that with 5:2IF you only have 2 lower calorie days a week and then 5 maintenance level days a week. And you don't do the two lower calorie days back to back. This is just a fancy way of calorie cycling/zig-zagging. Many people move their calories around throughout the week to give a buffer for the weekends, special events etc. and it's similar to that.

    The blood sugar plan does 800 calories a day, every day though, and there's no higher, maintenance level days mixed in. This has disaster written all over it and really shouldn't be done, unless prescribed and monitored by a doctor.

    To elaborate a bit more on 5:2IF, using my numbers as an example-I would take my TDEE and multiply that by 7 (days). Then I would subtract 3,500 (1lb a week loss goal), and then I would subtract 1,600 (to represent the 2 low calorie days), and then divide the remaining number by 5 (days). This would give my an eating pattern of 5 days a week at 1,640 calories per day and then the 2 days at 800 calories a day, (when I did 5:2 my low cal days were Mondays and Thursdays).

    Unless I had a pressing medical concern that required weight loss for surgery I would not go for an 800 calorie diet even if my doctor recommended it. It might be okay for short term quick losses for surgery but not for sustained weight loss. It is a bad idea to assume that a doctor has been trained or is knowledgeable in bringing someone all the way to goal weight. Mine isn't. He is beneficial for monitoring my health status as I lose weight and that is about it.

    Agree, I think there are situations where a doctor will have someone do this, but most times its because they're getting ready for weight loss surgery/other type of surgery. At that point the person is most likely working with a team of doctors/specialists.
  • Justin_7272
    Justin_7272 Posts: 341 Member
    zeejane4 wrote: »

    I see they're also promoting a 5/2 program, with only 2 days at 800 calories, but this is still inadvisable; to balance out to the minimum 1,200 per day you'd need to eat 1,360 the other 5 days. Just screams recipe for disaster.

    To elaborate a bit more on 5:2IF, using my numbers as an example-I would take my TDEE and multiply that by 7 (days). Then I would subtract 3,500 (1lb a week loss goal), and then I would subtract 1,600 (to represent the 2 low calorie days), and then divide the remaining number by 5 (days). This would give my an eating pattern of 5 days a week at 1,640 calories per day and then the 2 days at 800 calories a day, (when I did 5:2 my low cal days were Mondays and Thursdays).

    I understand, my point being for most I think it would be mental warfare to have to think "I literally have to eat less than half as much as I did yesterday" twice a week. I see a lot if room for failure, especially considering there's no "oops" room for excess calories at 800.

    It may work for a select few, but marketing it as a cure all to the masses? SMH.
  • OooohToast
    OooohToast Posts: 257 Member
    Here's some reference material if interested:

    https://www.ncl.ac.uk/press/articles/latest/2018/12/diabetesdiettrialledbynhs/

    Its accepted with this approach that it will not work for everyone, same as the previous established diet recommended for T2's of high carb low fat was unhelpful to some in the UK.

    These are not the only two options available to T2's in the UK - whichever approach is followed though, it is about understanding what works for the individual rather than persevering with something that should work but doesnt.

    It will be interesting to see the results of these trials in the coming years.