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Commander_Keen wrote: »To show off your Abs, I thought it meant to get your BF % below 10% and to get them to pop out, to do ab exercise
Yup. problem for most is getting below 10%. very hard to achieve for most, like me, and even harder to maintain
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Thanks @49DegreesNorth you’re a young pup at age 53 so enjoy your youth. You’re fitness, health and wellness wisdom is priceless.1
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I’ll just throw this out there for the guys. In all my years of dating (I’m married now), I never cared, EVER if a guy had visible abs or not. His personality and availability to be with me and do fun things was much more important.10
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49DegreesNorth wrote: »
If you eat the right amount of calories but from the wrong source it will not work.
What won't work? Weight loss, desired aesthetics or both?
I would argue that, dependent upon your goals, that would most certainly work. If the goal is simple reduction of BF% and "getting in better shape" just eating the proper amount of calories would certainly work (see the twinkie diet). It may not be the most optimal, but it'd work.
I know many on here and IRL that followed the plan of eating a balanced diet, hitting their macros and calories, all while fitting in treats and were able to reach their goals.
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49DegreesNorth wrote: »
If you eat the right amount of calories but from the wrong source it will not work.
What won't work? Weight loss, desired aesthetics or both?
I would argue that, dependent upon your goals, that would most certainly work. If the goal is simple reduction of BF% and "getting in better shape" just eating the proper amount of calories would certainly work (see the twinkie diet). It may not be the most optimal, but it'd work.
I know many on here and IRL that followed the plan of eating a balanced diet, hitting their macros and calories, all while fitting in treats and were able to reach their goals.
I do not agree. You will perhaps lose some BF, together with LBM. You will also slow your metabolism to the point of requiring you to restrict additionally calories in a downward spiral
The idea is to do this in a healthy and efficient manner, without going to any form of damaging extremes
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49DegreesNorth wrote: »49DegreesNorth wrote: »
If you eat the right amount of calories but from the wrong source it will not work.
What won't work? Weight loss, desired aesthetics or both?
I would argue that, dependent upon your goals, that would most certainly work. If the goal is simple reduction of BF% and "getting in better shape" just eating the proper amount of calories would certainly work (see the twinkie diet). It may not be the most optimal, but it'd work.
I know many on here and IRL that followed the plan of eating a balanced diet, hitting their macros and calories, all while fitting in treats and were able to reach their goals.
I do not agree. You will perhaps lose some BF, together with LBM. You will also slow your metabolism to the point of requiring you to restrict additionally calories in a downward spiral
The idea is to do this in a healthy and efficient manner, without going to any form of damaging extremes
Incorrect. Your metabolism naturally slows down as you shrink. It's normal. And smaller bodies require fewer calories, so of course 146-pound me can't eat the 1700 calories that 254-lb me could and lose weight. (Assuming no exercise.)
Source: https://www.aworkoutroutine.com/metabolic-damage/
When losing weight, it's almost inevitable that some LBM will be lost. Strength/resistance training will reduce that loss but not eliminate it completely.
That's what happens in a "healthy and efficient" weight loss program without going to damaging extremes.
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Adding to the abs thing. I have never cared if a guy had them.. never gave it a second thought.
I also don't care if I have abs. I really like my stomach just flat..it looks nice that way.
I do understand that body building is an art in and of itself..and to those who are into it..it is a big deal, and you work very hard and it is all consuming. Truth be told.. when I was single and saw a guy who obviously was super fit and spent hours at the gym... I just knew I didn't want to keep up with that or be part of it. I would be living a LIE. haha. But I've gotten some gems of good advice from the gym rats around here.
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elisa123gal wrote: »Adding to the abs thing. I have never cared if a guy had them.. never gave it a second thought.
I also don't care if I have abs. I really like my stomach just flat..it looks nice that way.
I do understand that body building is an art in and of itself..and to those who are into it..it is a big deal, and you work very hard and it is all consuming. Truth be told.. when I was single and saw a guy who obviously was super fit and spent hours at the gym... I just knew I didn't want to keep up with that or be part of it. I would be living a LIE. haha. But I've gotten some gems of good advice from the gym rats around here.elisa123gal wrote: »Adding to the abs thing. I have never cared if a guy had them.. never gave it a second thought.
I also don't care if I have abs. I really like my stomach just flat..it looks nice that way.
I do understand that body building is an art in and of itself..and to those who are into it..it is a big deal, and you work very hard and it is all consuming. Truth be told.. when I was single and saw a guy who obviously was super fit and spent hours at the gym... I just knew I didn't want to keep up with that or be part of it. I would be living a LIE. haha. But I've gotten some gems of good advice from the gym rats around here.
I don't think anyone was asking the opinion of what you or anyone of the opposite sex thought of a 6 pack... completely out of left field to come in with such a comment. Sounds like more of his goal, not his goal for how to pick up women.
Also, I may have given advice and have a 6 pack, but am far from a gym rat... I go to the gym 4 days/week for 40 minutes at a time, that is a total of 3 hours a week!0 -
estherdragonbat wrote: »49DegreesNorth wrote: »49DegreesNorth wrote: »
If you eat the right amount of calories but from the wrong source it will not work.
What won't work? Weight loss, desired aesthetics or both?
I would argue that, dependent upon your goals, that would most certainly work. If the goal is simple reduction of BF% and "getting in better shape" just eating the proper amount of calories would certainly work (see the twinkie diet). It may not be the most optimal, but it'd work.
I know many on here and IRL that followed the plan of eating a balanced diet, hitting their macros and calories, all while fitting in treats and were able to reach their goals.
I do not agree. You will perhaps lose some BF, together with LBM. You will also slow your metabolism to the point of requiring you to restrict additionally calories in a downward spiral
The idea is to do this in a healthy and efficient manner, without going to any form of damaging extremes
Incorrect. Your metabolism naturally slows down as you shrink.
I was referring to your statement that the source is ininfluent to weight reduction, that only calories are what matters. Or at least that is what i understood from your answer to me. And to me that is incorrect. Sorce is fundamental in the preservation of energy, metabolism and LBM. At least in my experience0 -
elisa123gal wrote: »Adding to the abs thing. I have never cared if a guy had them.. never gave it a second thought.
In my case it's simply a goal, not looking to use it to attract women. Hell, with the issues i am having with my divorce the LAST thing I am looking right now is another woman
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49DegreesNorth wrote: »estherdragonbat wrote: »49DegreesNorth wrote: »49DegreesNorth wrote: »
If you eat the right amount of calories but from the wrong source it will not work.
What won't work? Weight loss, desired aesthetics or both?
I would argue that, dependent upon your goals, that would most certainly work. If the goal is simple reduction of BF% and "getting in better shape" just eating the proper amount of calories would certainly work (see the twinkie diet). It may not be the most optimal, but it'd work.
I know many on here and IRL that followed the plan of eating a balanced diet, hitting their macros and calories, all while fitting in treats and were able to reach their goals.
I do not agree. You will perhaps lose some BF, together with LBM. You will also slow your metabolism to the point of requiring you to restrict additionally calories in a downward spiral
The idea is to do this in a healthy and efficient manner, without going to any form of damaging extremes
Incorrect. Your metabolism naturally slows down as you shrink.
I was referring to your statement that the source is ininfluent to weight reduction, that only calories are what matters. Or at least that is what i understood from your answer to me. And to me that is incorrect. Sorce is fundamental in the preservation of energy, metabolism and LBM. At least in my experience
My statement? My answer above was my first time commenting in this thread. But given that I've dropped 108lbs, increased muscle strength, improved fitness levels, and won my age bracket in my first-ever 5K last year while eating a reasonably healthy diet that incorporated a variety of different foods from kale to cake, I have to say my experience is markedly different.
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