Cheat Day or Bulimia argument...(Buttermore)

It is interesting. I started following her a while ago upon someone's recommendation, but quickly realized something was "off." I've noticed a pattern among women who are extremely lean even when not in prep, and in order to get the attention off of their weight they'll post videos and photos of binges disguised as cheat days. Still, she stayed extremely lean which led me and others who weren't extremely oblivious to believe that she was putting up a facade. Shortly after the cheat day videos stopped silencing the suspicion of something being really wrong, she decided to go "all in" eating 5-7k calories a day and since starting has gained 17lbs in just a few weeks. I'm still following her just to see how going "all in" ends up working out...

Btw, my apologies if I said anything that was mentioned in the video, I'm on break and only watched the first couple minutes. Will watch the rest later.

I will admit I do enjoy her workout videos especially when she collaborates with Jeff Nippard. However this whole cheat day 10k calorie stuff is not my cup of tea. It makes me ill to watch to be honest and I don't understand the point especially doing it more than once. But hey if people love to watch it and she wants more viewers I suppose she is just giving the people what they want.

I am thankful I have a really healthy relationship with food and eating and my health and hormones reflect that.

I watched that video earlier today and there are some things he says that are honestly just wrong. At one point he says that eating 4000 to 5000 calories is more than double what a woman should eat. Another time he said she should be eating one-third of that. He cited low calorie numbers for women multiple times in that video and that's just not true. I'm nowhere near as muscular as Stephanie is, nor looked like her at her leanest, but we're similar in height and weight and I'm quite active. My maintenance calories are anywhere from 2000 to 2500 per day. He says most women would gain on that amount and cannot eat that amount if they want to be lean and that's simply not true.

Also while I never would, never could, and have never desired to eat 10K calories in one day, I understand it was her way to get views. Anyone who has used MFP knows there is no way we could have a 10K cheat day and not gain fat unless we offset it by eating rather light the rest of the week or straight up puking up food. It's dangerous to speculate what someone else is doing so I'll just state the very obvious fact that Stephanie's hunger cues are screwed up big time for whatever reasons they are.


I posted a thread two weeks ago where I went through similar symptoms here. I was never a binge eater or anything but over a couple of months I ended up losing weight due to undereating from stress. I went from 116ish to 109 at 5'3" within a month or two and boy did my body rebel. I felt this deep, insatiable hunger and I was eating around 3500 calories per day before I felt satiated. I even stopped logging food for a bit because I couldn't take the shame and embarrassment I felt from not being able to control my eating.

Luckily for me, it seems like as of this week my hunger cues and appetite are back to normal. What I didn't know is that what I was doing, and what Stephanie is doing now, is close to the Minnie Maud Recovery Plan/Homodynamic Recovery Method to recover from severe food restriction/eating disorders. It's shocking how close this is to how I was naturally eating when giving into my hunger cues and taking a break from exercise. Luckily for me, my unintended restriction was for a shorter period of time but due to my highly active lifestyle it hit me hard but I feel like I'm bouncing back after a month of eating. I'm weighing in at 116 to 118 now which I'm okay with. For someone like Stephanie, it's going to take longer to undo the damage from her unhealthy relationship with food.

I understand the points he's trying to make and that men can also undereat, overtrain, and get burnt out but to act like the effects on women and men are the same just is not true. I think there are certain aspects he just can't understand because he hasn't experienced them personally. He's never done 10K calorie days like Stephanie so how can he know what happens to hunger cues and the body when doing that and then resorting to extreme restriction. Plus, it's a mystery whether or not Stephanie was ever using any PEDs so that's another factor. I know people love to hate YouTube/Instagram personalities but knowing what that insatiable, hopeless hunger feels like, I truly feel for Stephanie. I didn't pay any mind to her before this whole thing but I'll be checking in on her social media from time to time to see how she's progressing.

I was a binger Although I binged and overexercised in secret. I went from 108 to 120 and it did not stop there. Also, I was a personal trainer at that time and did a bikini comp, 5k's , marathons and kettlebell sport.

Example- A few years ago I went to Old Country Buffet. Consumed fried chicken, mac & cheese, stuffing, nachos, etc. then ate all the desserts available, cookies, cakes, ice cream and never felt full. I then went home and ate 2 cartons of oreos.

The next morning, I was extremely bloated and I didn't stop there and decided to heck with it and kept going for days. Eating, running 5 miles, eating running 5 miles, eating, biking 10 miles. I tried to overcompensate but the scale would not move. Eating until I vomited. This is why I detest those eating challenges done by fitness people on Youtube. It’s doing a disservice to people just for views. It will show thin, lean fitness people putting away thousands of cals with no consequences. Believe me… THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES.

I was "all in". Although doing it in SECRET, unlike Stephanie. I tried to overcompensate by over exercising. Which I did too much of and eventually I couldn't overexercise a dozen doughnuts, a case of dates, bunches of bananas (yup I went fruitarian at one point to try to "binge" with whole foods. Yup. It can be done. ANd I was ignorant at that time on insulin)

And soon I was 148. That was my "setpoint". And I HATED IT. (eventually I got MUCH bigger on an antidepressant, and had a new set point, but with no medication eating s**T, I was 148 and it did not look good on my 5'3 frame. And my fat percentage? Not good. ) Some people may disagree with me being lowcarb and being an intermittent faster but many of us can agree that these type of videos that fitness youtubers are making, encourage binge eating in the guise of " finding balance". There is nothing balanced about her past vids. I feel sorry for people who followed her and tried to do the same thing. How many eating disorders did she produce in her followers or make worse bc they followed her example?

I am currently trying to find my maintenance. At carnivore keto I have not yet reached it. ANd I won't do it in a binge manner. Plus it's hard as hell to overeat liver (yes , I love liver).