Weight loss
jessdance1
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Hey guys, need some help I have been trying to lose weight for 6months now, use to binge eat but no longer do and haven’t for 6months, I don’t eat gluten or dairy (as I am allergic) I try stick to good protein and high fats sometimes when I eat to many carbs for like a build up of a week or so my arms bloat up a bit? Trying to understand why ? And I am working out every day and have been for 4 months for about 1 and half doing anything between HIIT, strength and cardio I have seen some results I am usually a size 12 but have started buying size in some clothes but it’s soo slow is that normal ? I have lost about 6 kilos but not 100percent on numbers I use measurements not the scales in 4 months? Any advice on losing weight quicker ?
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You don’t mention whether you eat at a lower calorie amount than you need and if you weigh your foods.4
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Yes I do weigh my foods and I was eating 1500 and exercising but felt like I am only losing what I eat so I am now trying the 800 diet so I just eat breakfast, lunch and dinner protein every meal salad for lunch veggies and salad for dinner with lots of fats8
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Eating 800 calories is not a good idea at all.
and depending on how much you have to lose, 6kg in 6 months (ie around 1/2 lb per week) is quite reasonable.
I lost my entire weight at that rate, roughly a kg a month.4 -
I went on A VLCD for 4 mths due to ill health. I am still recovering more from the diet than the original illness. 800 cal is ridiculous unless you are under constant supervised medical care. Just get yourself a dietician and personal trainer and readjust your expectations4
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The bottom line is I am keen to no does it take a long time to lose weight ? Is that normal ?1
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I have 12 kilos I would like to lose and I am just finding it hard to shift it I have tried keto, 1500 and now 800 and the 800 is the only one that has been making some difference.4
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Weight loss is a long journey when you do it properly. Of course you lose weight quicker when you eat hardly any calories but you also deny yourself basic nutrition and put your body into starvation mode which screws your body up in many ways. It’s very dangerous and not worth it. Just have patience and get a personal trainer trained in nutrition to help you6
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Of course you will lose weight on 800, nobody disputes that. But it won't be healthy and it probably won't be sustainable.
Yo yo dieting - not a long term plan.
Of coures it takes time to lose weight - esoecially if you want to lose it in a healthy way and keep it off.
And if you only have 12kg to lose, your present rate of a kg a month or 1/2 lb per week, is the right pace.
Put your stats into MFP, select 1/2 lb per week and eat to that amount. Plus excercise calories.8 -
How long did you eat 1500 calories before you shifted to an extreme? I am a little worried that you were bingeing and now you are under eating. It may be a really good idea to see a doctor and perhaps get a referral for therapy. You don't want to keep going back and forth in extremes. You need to learn how to stay in the middle where it is slow but healthy.
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jessdance1 wrote: »The bottom line is I am keen to no does it take a long time to lose weight ? Is that normal ?
Yes. It takes a long time to lose weight. It's a journey of months and years, not days or weeks. You didn't put it on overnight, you won't lose it overnight.
Unless you cut off a leg or something. But don't do that.7 -
Wow no 1500 is not binge eating let me be more specific i would eat normal regularly healthy meals in that 1500 and also on top eat way to much chocolate it was a comfort thing. I have now broken that cycle 6 months ago, I have done miles of research and know my body type and like allot of person in this world trying to work out what suits my body in terms of food. I’m not stupid I did do some research into the 800 calories before I started and there are proven studies it has worked for short term for some people and they don’t need therapy ? I just came on here to hear about people’s journeys to know there are people out there that do take a long time to lose weight because your always hearing about the quick stories. I would never to harm to my body and the points about hurting my metabolism makes sense. I don’t need to be criticised6
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I can't really offer advice on losing quicker until I know how quickly you're losing now. I get that it's not as fast as you want it to be, but there's only so much I'm willing to suggest/recommend.
So... how much have you lost and over what period of time? 6 kilos in 4 months... do you feel fairly confident with those numbers?
As for the bloating... that's not uncommon and should probably be expected when your carb and/or sodium intake varies significantly. The good news is that it's just water weight (not fat) and will balance out if/when your diet becomes more consistent.4 -
I don't think anyone was criticizing but rather was concerned. You will lose weight at 800 calories. You will lose weight at 1000 calories and you will probably lose weight at 1500 calories. Which would you rather choose? Personally I will choose that which gives me more food plus weight loss.
On 800 calories you cannot possibly get the nutrients you need, which means you will lose muscle as well as fat. You will also probably lose your hair as you are not meeting the nutrition your body needs for normal functions.7 -
Yes it does definitely make more sense to up the calories as I 100 percent want to make sure my body get all the nutrition it needs and not just about the lose weight it’s a overall health. I don’t want this Journey to be for a few months I want it to be a lifestyle change and one where I am getting all the nutrients I need and losing weight.
As for my weight I began at 75 kilos and have fluctuated between 75 and 70 for a while now. Now that I am not binge eating my body has stabilised at 70 which I am really happy I have lose the 5 kilos I now want to tap into the 60s and am finding it hard to. I have been eating well for 6months but have only been exercising consistently for sorry I think I said 4 months but I meant to say 2months. I haven’t weighed myself in a while but have noticed in clothes wise in the last month I have brought a few items in a size 10 instead of a 12. Is it just plateauing ? Need to work hard to get over next hump ?1 -
Sorry I meant to say also I was 75 in jan this year I am now 70 kilos in July was hoping to be just out of the 70s by now0
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jessdance1 wrote: »Wow no 1500 is not binge eating let me be more specific i would eat normal regularly healthy meals in that 1500 and also on top eat way to much chocolate it was a comfort thing. I have now broken that cycle 6 months ago, I have done miles of research and know my body type and like allot of person in this world trying to work out what suits my body in terms of food. I’m not stupid I did do some research into the 800 calories before I started and there are proven studies it has worked for short term for some people and they don’t need therapy ? I just came on here to hear about people’s journeys to know there are people out there that do take a long time to lose weight because your always hearing about the quick stories. I would never to harm to my body and the points about hurting my metabolism makes sense. I don’t need to be criticised
Sorry. People use the binge term to mean so many things. Without a qualifier I assume it is true bingeing which can be disordered eating habits. Not always but when someone says they went from bingeing to a potentially harmful restricted diet... well... it raised a flag.
I am not sure where you have done your research. The internet is full of nonsense garbage about weight loss. It is also full of people who lost a bunch of initial water weight and thought they had done some miracle. Water weight comes and goes.
An 800 calories is considered a very low calorie diet and if it is ABSOLUTELY medically necessary it should also be medically supervised.
Fat weight loss takes a long time and there is a minimum safe nutrition line and it is 1200 for women who are average height and do no additional exercise. Minimum is not not necessarily optimal though.
Most weight loss efforts fail and I believe that unreal expectations and aggressive methods are probably among the biggest causes.
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I guess the part I'm struggling with is the apparent back and forthing...
I don't weigh myself often but have noticed clothes wise...
I want to be out of the 70s...
Conceptually I get it... not using the scale to gauge progress is great for some people. But if you don't really know what you weigh, it's hard to complain about what you weigh, or about the progress you are/aren't making on the scale, isn't it?
But bigger picture, anytime I'm not making the progress I want, I ask myself these 2 questions -
(1) is the progress I want resonable?
(2) am I being honest and complete with my logging/tracking?
If the answer to either of those questions is "no", then I need to look at myself, not at the process, and adjust either my expectations/goals or my logging. Or both. If the answer to both questions is "yes" then I look at the process and think about what tweaks I can make to my eating/exercising/sleep.5 -
jessdance1 wrote: »Wow no 1500 is not binge eating let me be more specific i would eat normal regularly healthy meals in that 1500 and also on top eat way to much chocolate it was a comfort thing. I have now broken that cycle 6 months ago, I have done miles of research and know my body type and like allot of person in this world trying to work out what suits my body in terms of food. I’m not stupid I did do some research into the 800 calories before I started and there are proven studies it has worked for short term for some people and they don’t need therapy ? I just came on here to hear about people’s journeys to know there are people out there that do take a long time to lose weight because your always hearing about the quick stories. I would never to harm to my body and the points about hurting my metabolism makes sense. I don’t need to be criticised
I am a bit lost- you ask for help and advice in your OP but you did not make sure to set out the facts accurately - and now you complain of being criticised
People, including me, have given constructive criticism aka help or advice. Which you asked for.
800 calories is not a good plan and you dont seem clear on how you are guaging your progress or what that progress is.
Yes some people have gone on medically supervised VLCD's in excpetional circumstances - they are morbidly obese and have multiple co-morbidities.
They are not healthy people with 12 kg to lose just doing this themselves on the back of "internet research"
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I am sorry and I didn’t lay out my information clearly, I just such trying to understand this long weight loss journey myself and like one of you said the internet can be full of information so I wanted to get some personal opinions. I undterstsnd with not explaining my story properly it has raised concerns for people about me doing 800 calories and I wasn’t aware that it’s really bad for your body and now I have that information it’s great. I am just trying everything and anything to do honest. I have only being doing the 800 for a short time so I am now going to stop that and go back to my fitness pal and adjust my calories higher. I do appreciate all the advice I just left there were a few comments I wanted to stand up for myself for but now I have need information a bit clear people understand and there is no drama.2
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Hannahwalksfar wrote: »Weight loss is a long journey when you do it properly. Of course you lose weight quicker when you eat hardly any calories but you also deny yourself basic nutrition and put your body into starvation mode which screws your body up in many ways. It’s very dangerous and not worth it. Just have patience and get a personal trainer trained in nutrition to help you
Starvation mode is not a thing.2 -
You say you've lost 6kg in 6 months, that's awesome! Well done, a kg a month is good progress. Slow and steady wins the race!2
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I appreciate all the advice I was given and now from hearing how bad the 800 diet is and the impacts it has on the body I will no longer do that. I think some readjusting on my logging is a great idea thankyou. Also just accept its a long journey and it will happen just have to stay consistent and on top of it and maybe start with smaller goals before I worry about the big 12 and be patient.1
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And understanding that slow progress is better for the long term is good to know also1
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TrishSeren wrote: »Hannahwalksfar wrote: »Weight loss is a long journey when you do it properly. Of course you lose weight quicker when you eat hardly any calories but you also deny yourself basic nutrition and put your body into starvation mode which screws your body up in many ways. It’s very dangerous and not worth it. Just have patience and get a personal trainer trained in nutrition to help you
Starvation mode is not a thing.
Well I was starving myself and I was not morbidly obese. I’m not sure what starvation mode you are referring to? Is that a term?1 -
jessdance1 wrote: »I am sorry and I didn’t lay out my information clearly, I just such trying to understand this long weight loss journey myself and like one of you said the internet can be full of information so I wanted to get some personal opinions. I undterstsnd with not explaining my story properly it has raised concerns for people about me doing 800 calories and I wasn’t aware that it’s really bad for your body and now I have that information it’s great. I am just trying everything and anything to do honest. I have only being doing the 800 for a short time so I am now going to stop that and go back to my fitness pal and adjust my calories higher. I do appreciate all the advice I just left there were a few comments I wanted to stand up for myself for but now I have need information a bit clear people understand and there is no drama.
I don't think it was drama it was just a slight miscommunication that had to be cleared up. That happens all the time on a message board. I am glad you are going to continue at a healthier calorie level.
It does take a long time to lose fat weight so I always tell people to be kind to themselves. If you are the time may seem to pass faster. If you are really harsh with yourself time can really seem to drag.
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Hannahwalksfar wrote: »TrishSeren wrote: »Hannahwalksfar wrote: »Weight loss is a long journey when you do it properly. Of course you lose weight quicker when you eat hardly any calories but you also deny yourself basic nutrition and put your body into starvation mode which screws your body up in many ways. It’s very dangerous and not worth it. Just have patience and get a personal trainer trained in nutrition to help you
Starvation mode is not a thing.
Well I was starving myself and I was not morbidly obese. I’m not sure what starvation mode you are referring to? Is that a term?
Yes, starvation is a thing.
Starvation mode is a term coined somehow to describe the false idea that eating too few calories will make your body hold on to fat and hence you don't lose weight.
That is not a real thing.
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paperpudding wrote: »Hannahwalksfar wrote: »TrishSeren wrote: »Hannahwalksfar wrote: »Weight loss is a long journey when you do it properly. Of course you lose weight quicker when you eat hardly any calories but you also deny yourself basic nutrition and put your body into starvation mode which screws your body up in many ways. It’s very dangerous and not worth it. Just have patience and get a personal trainer trained in nutrition to help you
Starvation mode is not a thing.
Well I was starving myself and I was not morbidly obese. I’m not sure what starvation mode you are referring to? Is that a term?
Yes, starvation is a thing.
Starvation mode is a term coined somehow to describe the false idea that eating too few calories will make your body hold on to fat and hence you don't lose weight.
That is not a real thing.paperpudding wrote: »Hannahwalksfar wrote: »TrishSeren wrote: »Hannahwalksfar wrote: »Weight loss is a long journey when you do it properly. Of course you lose weight quicker when you eat hardly any calories but you also deny yourself basic nutrition and put your body into starvation mode which screws your body up in many ways. It’s very dangerous and not worth it. Just have patience and get a personal trainer trained in nutrition to help you
Starvation mode is not a thing.
Well I was starving myself and I was not morbidly obese. I’m not sure what starvation mode you are referring to? Is that a term?
Yes, starvation is a thing.
Starvation mode is a term coined somehow to describe the false idea that eating too few calories will make your body hold on to fat and hence you don't lose weight.
That is not a real thing.
Oh ok I haven’t heard of that before. Sorry got the confusion. Either way eating 800kcsl a day without a dr is a terrible plan0
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