How long did it take before your healthier life changes became habit?
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Whether it be your exercise routine or eating or what ever changes you(‘ve) set out to make became completely natural to you rather than a battle with your will power or self motivation (if that makes sense). I’ve read the 21day rule is more an absolute minimum than a rule and 66 days is a better average and there’s no ‘one size fits all’
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30 years.
...because that's how long it took me to find an exercise routine I actually enjoyed most of the time. In my experience, nothing I really detest is ever going to become a habitual part of my life17 -
Literally overnight but I’ve always been like that. I just tell myself “this is how it’s gonna be” and that’s how it is.12
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It took me my whole adulthood so far to mentally arrive at the place where I could be patient enough to create new habits.
In the past, I was so unhappy with my looks and so dependent on eating for comfort that it was a wrenching difficulty to make the switch to healthier eating, and it slowly went by the wayside after I reached my goal. Those habits lasted for a year or two, but did not stick long term.
This time feels different. 8 years more of eating terrible food and feeling guilty about it constantly, plus extreme unhappiness with my appearance. I think I just got so sick of feeling awful about food and my weight for like a decade, that I finally started going to behavioral therapy. I didn’t even have the initial goal of losing weight. I just wanted to learn how to eat like a normal person and not stuff myself and then feel guilty afterwards. The fact that I didn’t have a goal weight made it so much easier to be patient and focus on building easy and sustainable habits.
To answer your question, this time, the habits were developed one-by-one over the course of a few months, and if I didn’t stick to one, I reworked it until it fit in my life and was stickable. So the habits stick very quickly and it didn’t take an adjustment period to get them down pat, since they were such small changes and I only took on one new one at a time. BUT it did take me a decade to learn the patience necessary to build those habits sustainably, and to get to the point where the alternative was just too exhausting.15 -
Whether it be your exercise routine or eating or what ever changes you(‘ve) set out to make became completely natural to you rather than a battle with your will power or self motivation (if that makes sense). I’ve read the 21day rule is more an absolute minimum than a rule and 66 days is a better average and there’s no ‘one size fits all’
Instant change has never worked for me. I started as a person who gained a lot of weight. I am not trying to become a person with less weight I am trying to become a person that would have never gained it. I make small changes over time so for me the answer will be however long it takes me to get to maintenance and all the adjustments I have to make when I get there to be successful.
Because I make small changes normal is never too far behind and so willpower and heavy doses of motivation are not needed as often. New habits form pretty easy because I keep building on them. It is like walking. I am not trying to walk the amount that I would like to walk when I have all my weight off I am just trying to walk more. I get accustomed to whatever I am doing then I push myself to do more.
It is one of the reasons I am not in any major hurry to get my weight off. Losing weight can't be my primary goal or I risk just regaining it. I have to change my habits and my mindset.8 -
All these answers are so great, everyone is so different and inspiring in their own ways1
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I don't think there's a pat answer. Or, the answer is anything from "instantly" to "never".
I'm pretty old (63). Over time, I've had any number of healthy habits that I no longer have. For example, at various times in my life, I had a regular daily yoga practice, and at different times I carried on with that for several months to well over a year. For about 8 years, I practiced a chinese martial art several times a week. I no longer do either of those things (for now, anyway ).
But I've been vegetarian for 45 years (some people would consider that a "healthy habit"; I just consider it a habit ). I've been an on-water rower, training several times a week, sometimes even competing, for 16+ years. I've been going to spin classes, usually twice a week, for probably at least a decade. And now I've been at a healthy weight for nearly 4 years, after decades of obesity (yes, I was obese while rowing and spinning, for quite a few years).
Other things I pick up and drop, over and over. Strength training is one. I know it's best for me to do it, but I don't find it all that fun, so I'm off and on with it, realistically.
Some habits are just an instant, easy fit. They don't take much motivation or willpower, and fit quite flexibility into our lives, even as life changes. Others are natural and easy for a while, but then circumstances change. Some are so important that we can use that scarce willpower and motivation to keep doing them, even when it's a bit of a force-fit in our lives.
I feel like I have a limited storehouse of willpower, and from time to time I need it for things that have little to do with health or weight management. The more I can come up with a routine that fits really well in my life, that's so enjoyable or beneficial that it's quite self-sustaining (ideally even through periods of stress and life change), the more likely those habits are to stick. So, in my case, part of success is trying to game my personal quirks and preferences to put as many good things as possible in that "seductively easy" category, and save up willpower for things that are harder (or for emergency stressors in my life).
If I were trying to turn that into advice for someone else to think about, I guess the advice would be to find ways, as much as possible, to make good habits easy and enjoyable, rather than thinking in terms of "how long do I have to force myself to do something in order for it to become habit".
Some of making things easy and enjoyable is about attitude and self-definition. (If I start by thinking "I hate exercise but I must exercise", I'm not setting myself up for success, vs. thinking "I need to try some exercise options until I find one I really enjoy, though I'm maybe just not there yet.")
Some of it is being willing to experiment to see what's easy and enjoyable (like trying different alternative ways of eating to see what best keeps me most happy, energetic, full, and satisified).
Some of it is learning/practicing skills or traits that will be helpful in this realm (and others), and building my confidence in using those (I'm talking things like patience, or ability to break a big goal into small steps and chip away at it).
I'm not sure that's useful to anyone else, but that's kind of how I think about it.
Best wishes! :drinker:22 -
Two weeks
Two weeks after I started my journey here, my cravings were gone and I no longer wanted candy. And it all happened naturally.
Personally, I think that 21 day minimum and 66 day whatever is pure crap.9 -
Speaking only for myself, that 21 days seems more like the honeymoon period, when motivation is still extremely high and there's euphoria about how easy this all is, so much easier than expected. Weight is still falling off in sheets, exercise is fun, life is changing for the better, perhaps there's been an initial compliment from a friend that I look thinner, etc.
By day 21 there's no reality check yet, or at least wasn't for me. E.g. Hitting a plateau. Pulling a muscle and not being able to work out for a while. Ending up in a bar with friends and saying F it, I need some fried mozzarella sticks. Etc. That stuff does happen and that's when you find out if you have "habits" or just easily-derailed enthusiasm.
I think it was around 3 months before I was so ensconsed in my measure, eat, log, weigh in, get on exercise machine routine that it had truly become a routine. By then I had had a few unexpected mega gorge fests in the rear view mirror and had learned how to deal better with them. I could walk into a 7-11 to get a banana and not look longingly at the candy aisle. I could go out to eat with people and not overeat at all, not even be tempted, because I was on plan and was happy being on plan and just didn't want to go off plan, not even for an hour. That hadn't happened by day 21, not by a long shot.
As far as it becoming "natural" to me, no, at first I was trying to do too many things at once. Eat healthy. Eat less. Eat this, don't eat that. It was successful (weight was lost) but tiresome. It was in the 2nd month that I realized that, while my regimen was working, I was getting irritated with the tedium. Finally I decided that the problem was, the food was too healthy and the tedium was mostly about not getting the sugar and saturated fat I wanted LOL I lightened up on the whole "healthy eating" thing and focused almost exclusively on weight loss. Voila, the tedium evaporated and I was happy to be on plan at all times. Not necessarily advising that for other people, I'm just noting that for me, having one thing and only one thing to worry about - not exceeding my MFP calorie target - helped me get centered and ready to do this long term. I've never looked back since, and haven't had an off-meal since, either.
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It took years to figure out what worked for me. Once I got to a place where I could do this method for the rest of my life, it was overnight. I think that is the ultimate key.4
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Overnight but I'm probably an outlier in this regard.
On the night 7th January 2018 I had a bit of an epiphany. For whatever reason in that moment I decided that I'd had enough of being the weight I was and being the sort of person that weight as much as I did so I decided then and there that it wasn't me anymore and when I woke up the next day it wasn't.
From that point on I just *was* a person who's behaviour was that of someone who didn't have a weight problem and I've been that person for over 18 months now. The only thing left to do is to wait for my body to catch up.
As I said, my case certainly doesn't appear to be typical but it seems to be the way my brain works as this isn't the first time I've had a life changing defining moment like this. What it does say, to me at least, is that we all have the ability to decide who we're going to be at any point in time.13 -
@NovusDies this is so good: "I am not trying to become a person with less weight I am trying to become a person that would have never gained it."
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I have a lot of healthier habits from years of counting calories as a teen, but that was borne out of eating disorders. But a lot of things like I never liked full sugar coke or drinking loads of calories in general (as I'd rather eat them). I like fruits & veg and don't eat much meat.
Exercise was start-stop until the beginning of 2018 though, when I found weight lifting and got into a yoga routine and tried a bunch of different classes at the gym.
I'm trying to be better about eating slowly rather than gobbling up food, especially when I'm hungry, as I think that will help with fullness cues. It's so hard, though!4 -
After I started to losing weight, it took me about 3 months to get used to my new way of life.
For my whole life I basically ate whatever I wanted whenever I wanted it, plus I wasn't active. It took me some time to find activities and workouts I enjoyed (and could physically do) along with making better food choices.
Although there were *a lot* of trials and errors, experiments, trying new things and ups and downs, I was super committed to losing the weight and getting fit. I really wanted it.
It was a natural progression and it wasn't forced. Plus I wanted to make sure whatever I did I could sustain so that the weight would stay off.
After I discovered my love for brisk walking and fruits and veggies it all clicked and I fell into a groove that still continues today - over 6 years of keeping 80+ pounds off without any regain.13 -
I've been exercising since I could wave my arms and kick in the cradle. Exercise has always come naturally to me ... possibly because I grew up in an exercising family.
As for altering my diet to lose weight, that happens overnight. I go along eating what I want ... years pass ... then I decide I'd like to knock off a few kg, and so I modify my diet and lose the weight.2 -
In 2012 I committed to exercising regularly, started off walking daily. It took around 1 month for the habit to stick. Progressed to other types of exercise but 7 years on I'm still working out every single week day and am purposefully active on the weekends.1
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I had been off and on with exercise my whole life. I was always a healthy eater but would sometimes eat too much or eat too many treats especially around the holidays.
When I switched to a primarily plant based diet is when I became consistent, beginning of 2019. I have way less cravings now and way more self control around food.3 -
I am still transitioning on purpose. I am one month post-op and I need all my nutrients to fully recover. I am still 90% Plant-based though. A couple days I added fish and eggs. I am an avid long walk/run/dance/yoga/lift athlete.
The last time I did WFPB I failed because I moved in too fast. My body automatically started scavenging protein in plants and I ended up consuming a tremendous amount of calories and gained weight. This time I intend to monitor and ease into it.1 -
I would just suggest that for most people it's probably not safe to start thinking "OK, it's a habit now, it's all good, I don't need to pay attention/reinforce the habit/exert conscious decision-making etc." If habits maintained themselves indefinitely regardless of outside forces, we wouldn't have been able to trade the old habits for the new ones in the first place.3
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3 years, 8 months along, and still not a habit. Well, the eating is still not a habit. 3 years 9 months ago I sure as hell would not have spent 2 hours doing cardio following my postprandial afternoon nap.1
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I'd like to add that by far the most profound healthy life change I made was to accept that I'm a fallible human being. Previously I held myself to impossible standards when trying to do something about my weight. Anything short of perfection was failure and slipping in adherence even once was unacceptable.
The most healthy thing I ever did was to give myself a break and let myself be a normal human being who does normal things. Eating myself into a food coma on Christmas day? Enjoying some sweets while watching a movie at the cinema? Having a slice of birthday cake? All things 'normal' people do and all perfectly OK for me to do as well.
I don't think anything has helped me lose the weight I've lost more than allowing myself to be 'normal' and do 'normal' things. Trying to be perfect made losing weight so difficult and arduous and for the most part made me pretty miserable. However, just accepting that being 'good enough' is all that's required has made losing weight comparatively far less stressful and, on the whole pretty easy.8 -
I can add to this one...(new poster). I started rowing indoors this past Nov...so about 9 months now. I remember posting in my log that there is dangerous ground between novelty and habit. Realistically it took about 3 months of daily rowing before I wasn’t thinking about it.
There were many days where the “I don’t wanna”s were strong, but I made myself do it. My days off are 15 min ~2500 m rows.
I laughed one morning after going through the mental gymnastics of trying to convince myself I was fine to skip the normal morning row, that I would do it after work (big fib), and that 1 day wasn’t a big deal...the reason I laughed to myself...by the time I had convinced myself to skip it, I realized I was dressed in my rowing gear. I hadn’t even noticed I was doing it! That day was at the 3 month mark2 -
Idk if I'll ever get there...for me "its just one day off" is poison to my routines.2
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I'd like to add that by far the most profound healthy life change I made was to accept that I'm a fallible human being. Previously I held myself to impossible standards when trying to do something about my weight. Anything short of perfection was failure and slipping in adherence even once was unacceptable.
The most healthy thing I ever did was to give myself a break and let myself be a normal human being who does normal things. Eating myself into a food coma on Christmas day? Enjoying some sweets while watching a movie at the cinema? Having a slice of birthday cake? All things 'normal' people do and all perfectly OK for me to do as well.
I don't think anything has helped me lose the weight I've lost more than allowing myself to be 'normal' and do 'normal' things. Trying to be perfect made losing weight so difficult and arduous and for the most part made me pretty miserable. However, just accepting that being 'good enough' is all that's required has made losing weight comparatively far less stressful and, on the whole pretty easy.
That’s great and all but... how long did it take?1 -
CardinalComb wrote: »I'd like to add that by far the most profound healthy life change I made was to accept that I'm a fallible human being. Previously I held myself to impossible standards when trying to do something about my weight. Anything short of perfection was failure and slipping in adherence even once was unacceptable.
The most healthy thing I ever did was to give myself a break and let myself be a normal human being who does normal things. Eating myself into a food coma on Christmas day? Enjoying some sweets while watching a movie at the cinema? Having a slice of birthday cake? All things 'normal' people do and all perfectly OK for me to do as well.
I don't think anything has helped me lose the weight I've lost more than allowing myself to be 'normal' and do 'normal' things. Trying to be perfect made losing weight so difficult and arduous and for the most part made me pretty miserable. However, just accepting that being 'good enough' is all that's required has made losing weight comparatively far less stressful and, on the whole pretty easy.
That’s great and all but... how long did it take?
As per my previous post in the thread. Overnight2 -
I read a great line once. I think it was Marc Parent who used to write the Newbie Chronicles for Runners World, which was basically a series of articles about his journey starting to run, and continuing to run.
The article was How Do You Know When You Become a Runner? The line that has always stuck with me is “You know you’re a runner when people stop asking you about running.”
That really resonated with me as I took up running and exercising regularly in general later in life ((30)). At first everyone asked me about running, how far was I going, was I keeping up with it... did I have to take walk breaks... but eventually that stopped as being a runner just became a regular part of regular me. I think some people asked me because they expected me to fail, but some were genuinely curious.
Just a different take- you know it’s a habit when other people stop mentioning it.3 -
I think the responses here show that it varies greatly from one person to the next.
What I've found is that "life" can throw us a number of curve balls over the years, and things change, and we either adjust or we don't.
Most of my life I had active jobs and active hobbies and would still work out on occasion. Overall, I was just an active, outdoorsy person who was "on the go." My weight wasn't much of an issue well into my early 30's. Around 32 years old I got my first "professional" desk job, and things went downhill from there.
I didn't adjust my eating, and while my schedule didn't change that much, my overall activity levels plummeted. Some of my more active hobbies started to go away, and the weight started to creep on. Slowly, but steadily.
In 2016 I recommitted myself to my fitness and eating habits, and was making great progress in both. Not super fast, but steady progress and was feeling great. I had made it through some life-struggles, and was ready to take on my own health. Things were going great and were routine - when I badly broke my left leg. Bad enough where the doctor's threats of cutting it off if things didn't go right were legitimate.
Over that next year, multiple surgeries, and a variety of other things, eating became one of the few things I enjoyed and could do with friends - so, even though I knew I'd have to lose the weight again, I didn't care. It was a choice, and I wanted to enjoy those times and meals out.
Last year I was working to regain lost muscle and working out pretty hard, eventually managing to burn myself out. Ended up with a good ~8 months of not really doing much.
Back at it again, trying to be a bit smarter about my expectations and demands on myself to avoid that burn out repeating. Basically doing what I was doing back in 2016, with some slight modifications. I've regularly been into my "routines" for ~6 weeks now - it's "routine" but I won't say that it's "easy" either. There are still days I have to basically force myself to go. There are still days even after accomplishing my workout and doing what I need to do, I don't feel that great having done it.
But, the results are paying off where I need them too, all the while reinforcing just how much further I still have to go. The "woo-hoo!" motivation is gone by this point, thankfully the routine part of it is kicking in, and my expectations/demands are reasonable.
Life has taught me that there are seasons, and I don't really consider this any different. I won't allow myself to ever go back to my heaviest, but life has shown that just because something works great right now, doesn't mean it always will, and I have to choose my priorities.2 -
I was quite disciplined once I decided to get on a plan, and my loss was pretty standard - quick then slow then bumpy and finally done, 40lbs over about 9 months. I've been in maintenance since March of 2017 and I'd say in the past few months I've noticed that my food choices have become less of a "I can't eat that" to "I am choosing this" which may sound subtle but as regards mental energy and will power, comes as a nice easing up off the grind. Part of it is habit, part of it is just the huge cache of info I have at hand now about where to spend what calories to keep myself feeling happy.
My activity habits are the only reason I've been able to stick to my goal weight, I think. While it's true you can't out-exercise consistent poor choices in diet, conversely I couldn't stick to the low calories I'm apportioned if I was truly sedentary. I'm active every single day of the week, and my rest days are a break but not a sloth. Having short and mid term activity based goals and projects is helpful, like a 5k run or a personal best on a trail, or whatever. Long term I'll be happy to do what I'm doing and remain injury free.2 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »I would just suggest that for most people it's probably not safe to start thinking "OK, it's a habit now, it's all good, I don't need to pay attention/reinforce the habit/exert conscious decision-making etc." If habits maintained themselves indefinitely regardless of outside forces, we wouldn't have been able to trade the old habits for the new ones in the first place.
This!! So well said. I think that if you let yourself get too comfortable and you don't stay disciplined, you can easily slip back into bad habits. I know this all too well from personal experience!!!1 -
For me, it was between 6 months and a year, or maybe it's a continuing process.
It took me somewhere between 6 months and a year to make exercise a habit, and for it to change from something I had to make myself do and something that was a habit. Between a year and 18 months, it changed from just a habit to something I really enjoy.
Still struggle with healthy eating habits.1 -
I'll let you know when it happens.
So far, I think it's been 12ish years.2
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