Type of carbs in post lifting shake

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  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 5,948 Member
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    Rawrmachin3 wrote: »
    As to the comment about context. We’re all here to be a better version of ourselves. Why would I want to do something if I’m going to half try it? People don’t lift weights just for health they do it for some benefit to the body wether it be bone density, strength, muscle growth, weight loss, etc. I don’t see people on here saying I’m happy only benching the bar 1x. We’re all people who want to grow and be better. That’s why we’re here. So again why do something half way.

    Rock on...
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 5,948 Member
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    jdog022 wrote: »
    Rawrmachin3 wrote: »
    I’ll stick to science, my experience as well as others and the likes of Justin Morris and others who actually train regular people and the elite level athletes.

    You just say what and no without providing any factual data to back up that my statements are incorrect. Carbs are a piece of the puzzle and as such for optimal recovery the body needs to be in a stasis to enable the body to use carbs and amino acids to repair the stressors on the body created by physical activity. Why do I want to mix a bunch of stuff together and carry a blender when I can just keep a cooler with me of food and eat it to keep my body in a primed state for growth?

    I’ll leave this here for you to learn more on. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6019055/#!po=0.335570




    jdog022 wrote: »
    Rawrmachin3 wrote: »
    A shake after a workout really isn’t optimal. Eating good food is optimal. I do flank steak, whole sweet potato and 1 cup of avocado slices puréed on top of my steak.

    In the grand scheme of things it’s really more about keeping up your blood amino levels up. I eat every 3 hours and the above mentione meal after a workout a couple hours before bed. The fat in the steak and avocados slows digestion keeping my blood amino levels up while I sleep. Protein synthesis in the body isn’t something that occurs 24/7. It’s a process the body uses when it decides its time/ready.

    Protein powders, shakes, etc really are not a substitute for food. They don’t last in the body more then around 1.5 hours. If you’re having trouble eating food you can get ground meats. A lot of IFBB pros and the like eat a lot of ground meat as it’s easier to shovel in them chew.

    What??? No

    IFBB pros are on juice. What they require isn’t natural and doesn’t apply except to others also on juice. I take my advice from the leaders of the natural industry like Dr Eric Helms, Shoenfield , Contraras. MPS is a 24/7 process. Spiked by eating and training. Thier are jacked folks who eat one time a day. I guess they’re magical .

    Nice to have time to make those meals but with two kids under 4 I sure as hell don’t. Shakes save me and my body uses them just as fine as chewed steak.

    Amen Brother!
  • jdog022
    jdog022 Posts: 693 Member
    edited August 2019
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    Rawrmachin3 wrote: »
    I’ll stick to science, my experience as well as others and the likes of Justin Morris and others who actually train regular people and the elite level athletes.

    You just say what and no without providing any factual data to back up that my statements are incorrect. Carbs are a piece of the puzzle and as such for optimal recovery the body needs to be in a stasis to enable the body to use carbs and amino acids to repair the stressors on the body created by physical activity. Why do I want to mix a bunch of stuff together and carry a blender when I can just keep a cooler with me of food and eat it to keep my body in a primed state for growth?

    I’ll leave this here for you to learn more on. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6019055/#!po=0.335570




    jdog022 wrote: »
    Rawrmachin3 wrote: »
    A shake after a workout really isn’t optimal. Eating good food is optimal. I do flank steak, whole sweet potato and 1 cup of avocado slices puréed on top of my steak.

    In the grand scheme of things it’s really more about keeping up your blood amino levels up. I eat every 3 hours and the above mentione meal after a workout a couple hours before bed. The fat in the steak and avocados slows digestion keeping my blood amino levels up while I sleep. Protein synthesis in the body isn’t something that occurs 24/7. It’s a process the body uses when it decides its time/ready.

    Protein powders, shakes, etc really are not a substitute for food. They don’t last in the body more then around 1.5 hours. If you’re having trouble eating food you can get ground meats. A lot of IFBB pros and the like eat a lot of ground meat as it’s easier to shovel in them chew.

    What??? No

    I read that entire study. I did not see any part that said shakes are not a substitute for food. Nothing about food digesting so fast that it cannot be used for recovery. I feel you may confusing feeling full, digestion speed and the availability of nutrients that the body can use. Last in the body for only 1.5 hours? Where does it go??

    He can put straight dextrose in his shake, or oatmeal or a banana or eat solid food. The end result will be the same in terms of growth and recovery . I agree with the important of carbs in the the study but I didn’t have the same interpretation I guess. All the GI stuff I find irrelevant since no one eats or digests one food at a time
  • tlpina82
    tlpina82 Posts: 229 Member
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    wmd1979 wrote: »
    sardelsa wrote: »
    You do what works for you, the rest will do what works for them. If I want to puree my food I don't see how that makes any difference. I personally find eating annoying sometimes. I also have TMJ issues. Liquid calories are fantastic and very optimal for me. Again you don't have to have shakes and smoothies, but I don't see why you have to knock others who do.

    Exactly this^

    I don't understand why some people on here feel the need to food shame others. Personally, I like a protein shake when I am looking for extra calories and don't want to feel too full. The idea of shoveling in ground beef instead is not at all appealing to me.

    The reason for that is because people read some passage of a study in a fitness blog, don't understand what's written and even if they did, it was taken out of context to begin with and then regurgitate it to everyone as the new science.

    Remember the "study" that said smelling farts makes you live longer? It was on tv and it was NOT at all what the study said.

    There are several ways to skin a cat... That's what I have to keep reminding everyone, even myself sometimes.

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