Help with interpreting my stats and how to improve

janiebsa
janiebsa Posts: 17 Member
edited December 23 in Health and Weight Loss
Good afternoon

Is there someone on here that would be able to help me interpret and understand my stats and advise me on how I can improve my calories consumed versus calories burned.

I am able to provide all the numbers needed. Learning curve for me so would be grateful.

JanieB
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  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    Not sure what you are asking. What stats are you trying to understand?
  • janiebsa
    janiebsa Posts: 17 Member
    Hi quicksylver296

    I seemed to have reached a plateau with regards to my weight loss despite tracking every calorie I eat along with all my activities.

    So I have all the stats for August:

    Calories consumed - 38 348
    Activity calories - 17 955
    Total calories - 83 472
    Calories remaining 45 124

    and was wondering if there is something in these that could help me work out what I am doing wrong or what I can improve to get me back on track.
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    Do you use a food scale, weighing and logging everything, no skipping, cheating, or forgetting?

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10634517/you-dont-use-a-food-scale/p1
  • janiebsa
    janiebsa Posts: 17 Member
    I do all of the above religiously using a combination of mfp + Garmin + electronic kitchen scale at home. I even log olive oil or butter or stock that I might use in cooking.
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    edited September 2019
    janiebsa wrote: »
    I do all of the above religiously using a combination of mfp + Garmin + electronic kitchen scale at home. I even log olive oil or butter or stock that I might use in cooking.

    Perfect. What is your daily calorie target? Do you eat back exercise calories, all of them, or a percentage of them?
  • janiebsa
    janiebsa Posts: 17 Member
    My daily target is 1 200 and no I do not eat back my exercise calories. I am trying to have a deficit of at least 500 calories per day. In the week I 100% manage to keep to 1 200 and on the weekend I might go over by 100/200 one of the weekend days but I usually have a longer harder workout on Sundays and so I burn a lot more then as well.
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    edited September 2019
    More questions:

    Age?
    Height?
    Current weight?
    Goal weight?
    How much exercise per day?
    How long have you been at 1200 calories per day?
  • janiebsa
    janiebsa Posts: 17 Member
    Sure
    50
    164 cm
    80 kg
    70/65 kg
    Daily nothing less than 360 can go up on the weekends to over 800.
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    And how long have you been at 1200 calories a day?
  • janiebsa
    janiebsa Posts: 17 Member
    It has been a month now.
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    janiebsa wrote: »
    Sure
    50
    164 cm
    80 kg
    70/65 kg
    Daily nothing less than 360 can go up on the weekends to over 800.

    What does this mean time-wise? One hour of working out per day, on average?

    Sorry for all the questions, trying to troubleshoot. :)
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    janiebsa wrote: »
    It has been a month now.

    How much weight have you lost in that month?
  • janiebsa
    janiebsa Posts: 17 Member
    No please keep asking, that is the only way to figure it out.
    Well before that I was on way less calories but got quite a bollocking on this forum that I was busy with malnutrition so after rectifying that, I only lost 1kg this month and the rest of the time just kept steady.
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    janiebsa wrote: »
    No please keep asking, that is the only way to figure it out.
    Well before that I was on way less calories but got quite a bollocking on this forum that I was busy with malnutrition so after rectifying that, I only lost 1kg this month and the rest of the time just kept steady.

    Do you still have a menstrual cycle?
  • Pearl4686
    Pearl4686 Posts: 918 Member
    I'm sure @quiksylver296 will come up with something, I'm not good at all the maths but just wanted to say I have similar stats to you and eat 1520 a day. So I think you are eating too little. I'm losing 1-2 lb a week and have gone on this deficit from 96 kg to 78 kg since starting in january. I am 37 so that may be an advantage but your deficit sounds too aggressive to me.
    Although I'm relatively new here, so I may be wrong ...
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    janiebsa wrote: »
    No please keep asking, that is the only way to figure it out.
    Well before that I was on way less calories but got quite a bollocking on this forum that I was busy with malnutrition so after rectifying that, I only lost 1kg this month and the rest of the time just kept steady.

    I'm glad you've rectified that! :)
  • janiebsa
    janiebsa Posts: 17 Member
    Yes agreed with you, could not have maintained eating that little anyway. My cycle is all over the show, not that it was every very regular however last month I was at it for 3 weeks but I have the idea that I might be peri-menopausal but if I don't think about it then it might disappear the same way it arrived.
    Also, I am not hungry with the amount of calories I eat at the moment.

    Thank you so much for taking the time to help turn over all the rocks to see where the spiders live.
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    Here's what I think (I am not a medical professional. I've just done a lot of reading and learning on my own. ;) )

    You are still undereating. 1200 and not eating back exercise calories is putting you under 900 calories per day. I punched your stats into a TDEE calculator (Total Daily Energy Expenditure). It looks like you would maintain your weight on approximately 2039 calories per day.

    You want to lose 10 to 15 kgs, so you should be shooting for a half kilo loss per week at most. If you aren't going to eat back exercise calories, you need a daily calorie target of ~1500 calories per day (provided you really are weighing and logging everything).

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  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    Pearl4686 wrote: »
    I'm sure @quiksylver296 will come up with something, I'm not good at all the maths but just wanted to say I have similar stats to you and eat 1520 a day. So I think you are eating too little. I'm losing 1-2 lb a week and have gone on this deficit from 96 kg to 78 kg since starting in january. I am 37 so that may be an advantage but your deficit sounds too aggressive to me.
    Although I'm relatively new here, so I may be wrong ...

    You're not. ;)
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    janiebsa wrote: »
    Yes agreed with you, could not have maintained eating that little anyway. My cycle is all over the show, not that it was every very regular however last month I was at it for 3 weeks but I have the idea that I might be peri-menopausal but if I don't think about it then it might disappear the same way it arrived.
    Also, I am not hungry with the amount of calories I eat at the moment.

    Thank you so much for taking the time to help turn over all the rocks to see where the spiders live.

    Hormones can cause water weight. I gain at ovulation and right before my period. If you are all over the place with your cycle, water weight may be masking fat loss. Read this article. It's awesome.

    http://physiqonomics.com/the-weird-and-highly-annoying-world-of-scale-weight-and-fluctuations

    If you're having trouble eating enough calories, add some fat. Peanut butter, full fat dairy, ice cream, fattier cuts of meats, etc.
  • janiebsa
    janiebsa Posts: 17 Member
    Hmm interesting, I got my BMR all wrong but that was just using an online calculator of course and they are just as good as the person who designed/coded them.

    Would you mind please explaining the eating more to lose more scenario to me. I clearly do not completely understand how that works. Maybe I should add that I use Intermittent Fasting every day so my eating window is from 11am to 7pm.

    Believe me I really am weighing and logging everything.
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    janiebsa wrote: »
    Hmm interesting, I got my BMR all wrong but that was just using an online calculator of course and they are just as good as the person who designed/coded them.

    Would you mind please explaining the eating more to lose more scenario to me. I clearly do not completely understand how that works. Maybe I should add that I use Intermittent Fasting every day so my eating window is from 11am to 7pm.

    Believe me I really am weighing and logging everything.

    I believe you.

    You are underfueling your body, and your body is reacting to that (I don't know the science behind it). I promise you will not gain on 1500 calories per day. Treat it as an experiment. Try 1500 calories for a good eight weeks (due to female hormones, stupid things!), and see what happens.

    If you like Intermittent Fasting, keep using it. If it's a struggle, don't use it. IF isn't magic. It's just a tool that helps some people stay within their calorie target.

    You are losing. You've lost a kg in a month, which is good!
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    edited September 2019
    Another note:

    BMR and TDEE are not the same things. If you look at this, it shows your BMR and your TDEE.

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    BMR is your Basal Metabolic Rate. It is the amount of calories your body would need to maintain your weight if you were completely sedentary, like bed-bound.

    TDEE is your Total Daily Energy Expenditure. That is your BMR plus all movement/exercise you do throughout the day. Your calorie deficit should be taken from your TDEE, not your BMR.
  • janiebsa
    janiebsa Posts: 17 Member
    Thank you for your help support and explanation it is really appreciated. I was about increase my activity output, and along with that will up calorie intake to 1 500 for 8 weeks to see how things pan out. IF is great for me, no issues and I actually feel better when I run in the mornings on an empty stomach rather than in the afternoons, just my personal preference.

    Those hormones and I do not see eye to eye but they can go and fly a lead kite, I don't give up that easily.

    Have a lovely day @quiksylver296
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    janiebsa wrote: »
    Thank you for your help support and explanation it is really appreciated. I was about increase my activity output, and along with that will up calorie intake to 1 500 for 8 weeks to see how things pan out. IF is great for me, no issues and I actually feel better when I run in the mornings on an empty stomach rather than in the afternoons, just my personal preference.

    Those hormones and I do not see eye to eye but they can go and fly a lead kite, I don't give up that easily.

    Have a lovely day @quiksylver296

    You, too! Come back and give an update, k?
  • janiebsa
    janiebsa Posts: 17 Member
    Sure thing.
  • Pipsqueak1965
    Pipsqueak1965 Posts: 397 Member
    Good luck!
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    janiebsa wrote: »
    Hmm interesting, I got my BMR all wrong but that was just using an online calculator of course and they are just as good as the person who designed/coded them.

    Would you mind please explaining the eating more to lose more scenario to me. I clearly do not completely understand how that works. Maybe I should add that I use Intermittent Fasting every day so my eating window is from 11am to 7pm.

    Believe me I really am weighing and logging everything.

    I believe you.

    You are underfueling your body, and your body is reacting to that (I don't know the science behind it). I promise you will not gain on 1500 calories per day. Treat it as an experiment. Try 1500 calories for a good eight weeks (due to female hormones, stupid things!), and see what happens.

    If you like Intermittent Fasting, keep using it. If it's a struggle, don't use it. IF isn't magic. It's just a tool that helps some people stay within their calorie target.

    You are losing. You've lost a kg in a month, which is good!

    Not terribly scientific, but undereating stresses the body, stress raises cortisol, extra cortisol can lead to water retention, which makes your weight on the scale higher than it should be due to the extra water weight.

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/dietary-restraint-and-cortisol-levels-research-review.html/

    ...a group of women who scored higher on dietary restraint scores showed elevated baseline cortisol levels. By itself this might not be problematic, but as often as not, these types of dieters are drawn to extreme approaches to dieting.

    They throw in a lot of intense exercise, try to cut calories very hard (and this often backfires if disinhibition is high; when these folks break they break) and cortisol levels go through the roof. That often causes cortisol mediated water retention (there are other mechanisms for this, mind you, leptin actually inhibits cortisol release and as it drops on a diet, cortisol levels go up further). Weight and fat loss appear to have stopped or at least slowed significantly. This is compounded even further in female dieters due to the vagaries of their menstrual cycle where water balance is changing enormously week to week anyhow.

    And invariably, this type of psychology responds to the stall by going even harder. They attempt to cut calories harder, they start doing more activity. The cycle continues and gets worse. Harder dieting means more cortisol means more water retention means more dieting. Which backfires (other problems come in the long-term with this approach but you’ll have to wait for the book to read about that).

    When what they should do is take a day or two off (even one day off from training, at least in men, lets cortisol drop significantly). Raise calories, especially from carbohydrates. This helps cortisol to drop. More than that they need to find a way to freaking chill out. Meditation, yoga, get a massage... Get in the bath, candles, a little Enya, a glass of wine, have some you-time but please just chill.
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    Thanks for the lesson, @kshama2001. Makes sense!
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    janiebsa wrote: »
    Yes agreed with you, could not have maintained eating that little anyway. My cycle is all over the show, not that it was every very regular however last month I was at it for 3 weeks but I have the idea that I might be peri-menopausal but if I don't think about it then it might disappear the same way it arrived.
    Also, I am not hungry with the amount of calories I eat at the moment.

    Thank you so much for taking the time to help turn over all the rocks to see where the spiders live.

    I'm 53 and my cycle is oddly regular now, so I can just look back a month. There are period tracker apps that help women track more erratic cycles.

    Last month, I gained four pounds at ovulation, and nothing when I was premenstrual. (I use to gain less at ovulation and a few pounds premenstrually.)

    So instead of getting depressed by the ovulation weight gain, I compare my weight to where it was at that point in my cycle last month. I am starting the ovulation spike now, but am 2 pounds less than I was this time last month.
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