Serious Craving Issues need to STOP

Hi all, I need serious advise about stopping cravings in the afternoon. I sit at a desk job all day, and try to get up and move alot. I've lost 73 lbs in a year. I have no issues in the morning, but come afternoon I can smell the fritos that are begging me to eat them! The cravings for carbs get pretty intense and I always give in and eat them. I don't have the option to get up and walk outside until the cravings pass. I also drink tons of water a day. Help me get over this!
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  • kimny72
    kimny72 Posts: 16,011 Member
    Cindy393 wrote: »
    Hi all, I need serious advise about stopping cravings in the afternoon. I sit at a desk job all day, and try to get up and move alot. I've lost 73 lbs in a year. I have no issues in the morning, but come afternoon I can smell the fritos that are begging me to eat them! The cravings for carbs get pretty intense and I always give in and eat them. I don't have the option to get up and walk outside until the cravings pass. I also drink tons of water a day. Help me get over this!

    Are the snacks putting you over your calorie goal?
    Are you hungry in the afternoon because you are carrying an aggressive deficit?
    Are you getting enough protein, fat, and fiber in your diet?

    I pre-log snacks into my day and make them fit into my calories. I simply do better eating more often. I get the nutritious food I need in my meals, so I let my snacks be fun treat food if that's what I want :smile:
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,419 Member
    You may simply have too aggressive a calorie goal at this point in your weight loss.

    It looks to me like you are at your Maintenance weight? I don't know, you don't give us much info here.

    If you're legit hungry, how about something like toast with avocado and hummus? Much more filling and won't lead to over-eating.

    I hope you're eating at Maintenance or just a tiny bit below and that you are eating all the calories burned by exercise.

    At the end of my 70+ pound weight loss I was really hungry too.

    That does settle down in time if the calories are set appropriately. I knew within 100 calories the amount I needed because I had such good records. If you have good data, you'll figure it out.
  • Cindy393
    Cindy393 Posts: 268 Member
    kimny72 wrote: »
    Cindy393 wrote: »
    Hi all, I need serious advise about stopping cravings in the afternoon. I sit at a desk job all day, and try to get up and move alot. I've lost 73 lbs in a year. I have no issues in the morning, but come afternoon I can smell the fritos that are begging me to eat them! The cravings for carbs get pretty intense and I always give in and eat them. I don't have the option to get up and walk outside until the cravings pass. I also drink tons of water a day. Help me get over this!

    Are the snacks putting you over your calorie goal?
    Are you hungry in the afternoon because you are carrying an aggressive deficit?
    Are you getting enough protein, fat, and fiber in your diet?

    I pre-log snacks into my day and make them fit into my calories. I simply do better eating more often. I get the nutritious food I need in my meals, so I let my snacks be fun treat food if that's what I want :smile:

    I usually keep in my calorie goal, so the snacks fit in there. I'm usually doing very well with the protein but need to look closer at my fiber. Sometimes the carbs are over my daily goal but seems like I can't ignore them! That's why I wonder what I'm lacking in my diet to feel that way. I'd take carbs over chocolate or sugar any day!
  • Cindy393
    Cindy393 Posts: 268 Member
    You may simply have too aggressive a calorie goal at this point in your weight loss.

    It looks to me like you are at your Maintenance weight? I don't know, you don't give us much info here.

    If you're legit hungry, how about something like toast with avocado and hummus? Much more filling and won't lead to over-eating.

    I hope you're eating at Maintenance or just a tiny bit below and that you are eating all the calories burned by exercise.

    At the end of my 70+ pound weight loss I was really hungry too.

    That does settle down in time if the calories are set appropriately. I knew within 100 calories the amount I needed because I had such good records. If you have good data, you'll figure it out.

    I am basically maintaining right now. I've gone from 215 to 142 and my calories per day are set at 1230. I'm 57 and 5'5", so maybe my calorie goal is too low?
  • Cindy393
    Cindy393 Posts: 268 Member
    And no, I don't eat back my exercise calories.
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    edited September 2019
    Cindy393 wrote: »
    kimny72 wrote: »
    Cindy393 wrote: »
    Hi all, I need serious advise about stopping cravings in the afternoon. I sit at a desk job all day, and try to get up and move alot. I've lost 73 lbs in a year. I have no issues in the morning, but come afternoon I can smell the fritos that are begging me to eat them! The cravings for carbs get pretty intense and I always give in and eat them. I don't have the option to get up and walk outside until the cravings pass. I also drink tons of water a day. Help me get over this!

    Are the snacks putting you over your calorie goal?
    Are you hungry in the afternoon because you are carrying an aggressive deficit?
    Are you getting enough protein, fat, and fiber in your diet?

    I pre-log snacks into my day and make them fit into my calories. I simply do better eating more often. I get the nutritious food I need in my meals, so I let my snacks be fun treat food if that's what I want :smile:

    I usually keep in my calorie goal, so the snacks fit in there. I'm usually doing very well with the protein but need to look closer at my fiber. Sometimes the carbs are over my daily goal but seems like I can't ignore them! That's why I wonder what I'm lacking in my diet to feel that way. I'd take carbs over chocolate or sugar any day!

    I'm confused.

    Sugar is a carbohydrate. Chocolate is a mix of carbohydrate and fat.

  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    Cindy393 wrote: »
    And no, I don't eat back my exercise calories.

    If you are using MFP for your calorie target, you are supposed to eat back your exercise calories. Some people choose to eat back 50-75% to allow for inaccuracies.
  • corinasue1143
    corinasue1143 Posts: 7,464 Member
    I used an outside calculator, plugged in your stats, gave you a fairly active lifestyle, (middle of 5 possibilities), and it suggested just over 2000 cal/day to maintain.
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    I see you've lost 73 pounds. Well done! Some questions to help troubleshoot your issue:

    How much more are you trying to lose? How many pounds per week do you have MFP set for? Have you taken a diet break?
  • kimny72
    kimny72 Posts: 16,011 Member
    edited September 2019
    Cindy393 wrote: »
    kimny72 wrote: »
    Cindy393 wrote: »
    Hi all, I need serious advise about stopping cravings in the afternoon. I sit at a desk job all day, and try to get up and move alot. I've lost 73 lbs in a year. I have no issues in the morning, but come afternoon I can smell the fritos that are begging me to eat them! The cravings for carbs get pretty intense and I always give in and eat them. I don't have the option to get up and walk outside until the cravings pass. I also drink tons of water a day. Help me get over this!

    Are the snacks putting you over your calorie goal?
    Are you hungry in the afternoon because you are carrying an aggressive deficit?
    Are you getting enough protein, fat, and fiber in your diet?

    I pre-log snacks into my day and make them fit into my calories. I simply do better eating more often. I get the nutritious food I need in my meals, so I let my snacks be fun treat food if that's what I want :smile:

    I usually keep in my calorie goal, so the snacks fit in there. I'm usually doing very well with the protein but need to look closer at my fiber. Sometimes the carbs are over my daily goal but seems like I can't ignore them! That's why I wonder what I'm lacking in my diet to feel that way. I'd take carbs over chocolate or sugar any day!

    There's nothing wrong with carbs. If you are satisfied eating the way you are and getting enough of the good foods you need, there's nothing wrong with a carby snack. I typically eat 200+g of carbs daily, still get plenty of protein and fiber. Many of us look at the protein and fat default goals as minimums to exceed and let the carbs fall where they may.

    And yes, 1230 is too low.
  • Cindy393
    Cindy393 Posts: 268 Member
    edited September 2019

    I'm confused.

    Sugar is a carbohydrate. Chocolate is a mix of carbohydrate and fat.

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    My sentence was meant to say "if I had to choose junk to eat, I'd choose carbs (like fritos, chips etc) over sugary treats (cookies, donuts etc)"
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    edited September 2019
    Cindy393 wrote: »



    My sentence was meant to say "if I had to choose junk to eat, I'd choose carbs over sugar"

    But sugar is a carb. It is pure carbohydrate. That's why I'm confused.
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    kimny72 wrote: »
    Cindy393 wrote: »
    kimny72 wrote: »
    Cindy393 wrote: »
    Hi all, I need serious advise about stopping cravings in the afternoon. I sit at a desk job all day, and try to get up and move alot. I've lost 73 lbs in a year. I have no issues in the morning, but come afternoon I can smell the fritos that are begging me to eat them! The cravings for carbs get pretty intense and I always give in and eat them. I don't have the option to get up and walk outside until the cravings pass. I also drink tons of water a day. Help me get over this!

    Are the snacks putting you over your calorie goal?
    Are you hungry in the afternoon because you are carrying an aggressive deficit?
    Are you getting enough protein, fat, and fiber in your diet?

    I pre-log snacks into my day and make them fit into my calories. I simply do better eating more often. I get the nutritious food I need in my meals, so I let my snacks be fun treat food if that's what I want :smile:

    I usually keep in my calorie goal, so the snacks fit in there. I'm usually doing very well with the protein but need to look closer at my fiber. Sometimes the carbs are over my daily goal but seems like I can't ignore them! That's why I wonder what I'm lacking in my diet to feel that way. I'd take carbs over chocolate or sugar any day!

    There's nothing wrong with carbs. If you are satisfied eating the way you are and getting enough of the good foods you need, there's nothing wrong with a carby snack. I typically eat 200+g of carbs daily, still get plenty of protein and fiber. Many of us look at the protein and fat default goals as minimums to exceed and let the carbs fall where they may.

    And yes, 1230 is too low
    .

    Agree with all of this!
  • rheddmobile
    rheddmobile Posts: 6,840 Member
    edited September 2019
    Since you are within your calorie allowance, is there anything wrong with just eating the Fritos and being happy?

    Carbs are not poisonous. They are your body’s preferred source of quick energy, especially for brain activity, which is why you are craving them at sleepy o’clock in the afternoon. Unless you are diabetic, prediabetic, or have another health condition causing you to need to limit carbs, if you are getting enough protein and healthy fat, there is nothing wrong with eating up to your calorie limit including exercise calories, in carbs.
  • Cindy393
    Cindy393 Posts: 268 Member
    I see you've lost 73 pounds. Well done! Some questions to help troubleshoot your issue:

    How much more are you trying to lose? How many pounds per week do you have MFP set for? Have you taken a diet break?

    I just changed my goal from losing .5/week to maintenance and it upped my calories from 1230 to 1720. If I ate my exercise calories back right now, after eating breakfast and a snack (380 cals total) I'd have to eat 1640 cals yet today! I guess I just don't understand enough yet how our bodies work where I can maintain a weight loss by eating 1720 calories + my exercise calories, and not gain.....guess I better start googling articles :)

    And regarding a "break", I do allow a cheat meal once or twice a week, but have not taken an actual no logging, eat whatever break
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    Cindy393 wrote: »
    I see you've lost 73 pounds. Well done! Some questions to help troubleshoot your issue:

    How much more are you trying to lose? How many pounds per week do you have MFP set for? Have you taken a diet break?

    I just changed my goal from losing .5/week to maintenance and it upped my calories from 1230 to 1720. If I ate my exercise calories back right now, after eating breakfast and a snack (380 cals total) I'd have to eat 1640 cals yet today! I guess I just don't understand enough yet how our bodies work where I can maintain a weight loss by eating 1720 calories + my exercise calories, and not gain.....guess I better start googling articles :)

    And regarding a "break", I do allow a cheat meal once or twice a week, but have not taken an actual no logging, eat whatever break

    My maintenance calories are approximately 2400. Your daily goal sounds about right.

    Be aware that if you start eating maintenance calories right away, your weight will go up due to more food in your body. If you want to ease into it, add 100 calories per week. So this week, eat 1330 plus 50% exercise calories. Next week, 1430 plus 50% exercise calories, then 1530, 1630, 1720. If you are still losing, then start eating more than 50% of the exercise calories.

    To get more calories in, eat full fat dairy, nut butters, fattier cuts of meats, and enjoy a serving of Fritos!
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,419 Member
    Yeah, my base calories are 2000, before exercise calories and I'm a retired little old lady - 5'7" and 140. I eat 2300-2500 on exercise days.

    I say jump right up to Maintenance calories, don't mess with the "add 100 calories this week" thing. You've been undereating for a while, a "diet break" means eating AT maintenance, not easing into it.

    You're at Maintenance. Eat at Maintenance. Maybe eat 50% of the exercise calories to start. I always have eaten all of them. ::shrug::
  • Cindy393
    Cindy393 Posts: 268 Member
    Since you are within your calorie allowance, is there anything wrong with just eating the Fritos and being happy?

    Carbs are not poisonous. They are your body’s preferred source of quick energy, especially for brain activity, which is why you are craving them at sleepy o’clock in the afternoon. Unless you are diabetic, prediabetic, or have another health condition causing you to need to limit carbs, if you are getting enough protein and healthy fat, there is nothing wrong with eating up to your calorie limit including exercise calories, in carbs.

    I think the bottom line in my thought process is that I've lost this kind of weight before, 7 years ago. I gained almost all of it back. I've now lost it again and I am maintaining my weight for longer than I did the first time. I guess I'm just SCARED to gain it back. Plain and simple.
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    Yeah, my base calories are 2000, before exercise calories and I'm a retired little old lady - 5'7" and 140. I eat 2300-2500 on exercise days.

    I say jump right up to Maintenance calories, don't mess with the "add 100 calories this week" thing. You've been undereating for a while, a "diet break" means eating AT maintenance, not easing into it.

    You're at Maintenance. Eat at Maintenance. Maybe eat 50% of the exercise calories to start. I always have eaten all of them. ::shrug::

    My only thought is that jumping from 1230 to 2300 (or whatever) can be a difficult transition. I agree she needs more calories and if she can flip a switch and eat what she should be eating, great! If not, then easing into it is better than not doing it at all.

    For @Cindy393, do you use a food scale? Are you actually eating the amount of calories you think you are? I want to say this as kindly and gently as possible - I think you need to educate yourself thoroughly about weight loss and weight management. And I don't mean Google. These threads have some great information.

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10634517/you-dont-use-a-food-scale/p1

    http://physiqonomics.com/the-weird-and-highly-annoying-world-of-scale-weight-and-fluctuations/

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1080242/a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants/p1

  • rheddmobile
    rheddmobile Posts: 6,840 Member
    Cindy393 wrote: »
    Since you are within your calorie allowance, is there anything wrong with just eating the Fritos and being happy?

    Carbs are not poisonous. They are your body’s preferred source of quick energy, especially for brain activity, which is why you are craving them at sleepy o’clock in the afternoon. Unless you are diabetic, prediabetic, or have another health condition causing you to need to limit carbs, if you are getting enough protein and healthy fat, there is nothing wrong with eating up to your calorie limit including exercise calories, in carbs.

    I think the bottom line in my thought process is that I've lost this kind of weight before, 7 years ago. I gained almost all of it back. I've now lost it again and I am maintaining my weight for longer than I did the first time. I guess I'm just SCARED to gain it back. Plain and simple.

    I know the feeling! Keep logging and weighing as you enter maintenance. Your logging is keeping you safe from weight regain - you know those Fritos can’t magically pile on the pounds because you know the calories in them! Once you learn your maintenance calories after a few months, you may be able to relax a little, but I intend to log every day for life.
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,419 Member
    @quiksylver296

    I agree, but it can also be a liberating, eat-some-damn-Fritos healthy thing. :)
  • quiksylver296
    quiksylver296 Posts: 28,439 Member
    @quiksylver296

    I agree, but it can also be a liberating, eat-some-damn-Fritos healthy thing. :)

    And now I want Fritos. Chili cheese, please! ;)
  • Cindy393
    Cindy393 Posts: 268 Member


    I think the bottom line in my thought process is that I've lost this kind of weight before, 7 years ago. I gained almost all of it back. I've now lost it again and I am maintaining my weight for longer than I did the first time. I guess I'm just SCARED to gain it back. Plain and simple. [/quote]

    I know the feeling! Keep logging and weighing as you enter maintenance. Your logging is keeping you safe from weight regain - you know those Fritos can’t magically pile on the pounds because you know the calories in them! Once you learn your maintenance calories after a few months, you may be able to relax a little, but I intend to log every day for life.
    [/quote]

    Agree! Logging is huge to me and it's definitely going to be a lifelong tool for me
  • Cindy393
    Cindy393 Posts: 268 Member
    @quiksylver296

    I agree, but it can also be a liberating, eat-some-damn-Fritos healthy thing. :)

    And now I want Fritos. Chili cheese, please! ;)

    HAHA! Love it! I'll eat the damn Fritos and will pass the bag along!!
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,419 Member
    edited September 2019
    Yay!

    You're not going to gain back your 73 pounds - but we all feel a bit untethered when we finally come to the end of weight loss.

    I gained a few pounds in that first year. I stopped logging and that was my undoing. Lesson Learned, I had to lose it AGAIN and now I am a lifelong logger. I have a range of 140-145 and I've maintained that for over a decade using Myfitnesspal.

    Welcome to Maintenance!! There is a lot of wisdom passed along in the Maintenance subforum. :flowerforyou:
  • Cindy393
    Cindy393 Posts: 268 Member
    Yay!

    You're not going to gain back your 73 pounds - but we all feel a bit untethered when we finally come to the end of weight loss.

    I gained a few pounds in that first year. I stopped logging and that was my undoing. Lesson Learned, I had to lose it AGAIN and now I am a lifelong logger. I have a range of 140-145 and I've maintained that for over a decade using Myfitnesspal.

    Welcome to Maintenance!! There is a lot of wisdom passed along in the Maintenance subforum. :flowerforyou:

    Thank you!!!! I'm reading now--knowledge is power! Congrats to you on your accomplishments!
  • 88olds
    88olds Posts: 4,534 Member
    I think the key to maintaining, especially at first, is keeping your food diary.

    The risk of regaining is real. Keep in mind that the calculators are just starting points. The only real way to learn how to maintain is trial and error.

    It’s been awhile, but I still recall having to make a point to eat more to stop losing. And how strange and unsettling it felt. Just remember that it’s a new phase, not the end of anything.
  • TeaBea
    TeaBea Posts: 14,517 Member
    Cindy393 wrote: »
    kimny72 wrote: »
    Cindy393 wrote: »
    Hi all, I need serious advise about stopping cravings in the afternoon. I sit at a desk job all day, and try to get up and move alot. I've lost 73 lbs in a year. I have no issues in the morning, but come afternoon I can smell the fritos that are begging me to eat them! The cravings for carbs get pretty intense and I always give in and eat them. I don't have the option to get up and walk outside until the cravings pass. I also drink tons of water a day. Help me get over this!

    Are the snacks putting you over your calorie goal?
    Are you hungry in the afternoon because you are carrying an aggressive deficit?
    Are you getting enough protein, fat, and fiber in your diet?

    I pre-log snacks into my day and make them fit into my calories. I simply do better eating more often. I get the nutritious food I need in my meals, so I let my snacks be fun treat food if that's what I want :smile:

    I usually keep in my calorie goal, so the snacks fit in there. I'm usually doing very well with the protein but need to look closer at my fiber. Sometimes the carbs are over my daily goal but seems like I can't ignore them! That's why I wonder what I'm lacking in my diet to feel that way. I'd take carbs over chocolate or sugar any day!

    Sugar is a carb. Chocolate is sugar (carbs) and fat. Fritios are corn (carbs) and fat.

    I'm not sure Fritos (exclusively) can be purchased in lunchbox size. That's usually a single portion. There's nothing wrong with working moderate portions of favorite snacks into you daily goal.

    Where I go wrong is trying to eliminate things like ice cream long term. Weight loss is just the first step. After you get to goal you still have to manage calories.