Cannot sleep at all someone please help
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cbstewart88 wrote: »I have had a difficult time sleeping for many years now. I'm kind of just used to it. Someone on MFP recommended magnesium supplements for help with sleep. I bought a bottle. What I neglected to investigate however, was that magnesium supplements can cause bad diarrhea. It took me two weeks to discover what was causing it. I should've realized - another lesson I've learned the hard way. Or soft way I should say...LOL
What was your reason for not sleeping?NorcoRyder wrote: »Have you tested your blood glucose levels during these episodes? I’m wondering if nocturnal hypoglycaemia could be at work.
Edit: A carb snack at bedtime can help in this case.
OMG I wondered if it was something like this? It actually makes loads of sense I get night sweats a lot when I diet, is there a particular snack that would help
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kellyrosiemfp wrote: »cbstewart88 wrote: »I have had a difficult time sleeping for many years now. I'm kind of just used to it. Someone on MFP recommended magnesium supplements for help with sleep. I bought a bottle. What I neglected to investigate however, was that magnesium supplements can cause bad diarrhea. It took me two weeks to discover what was causing it. I should've realized - another lesson I've learned the hard way. Or soft way I should say...LOL
What was your reason for not sleeping?NorcoRyder wrote: »Have you tested your blood glucose levels during these episodes? I’m wondering if nocturnal hypoglycaemia could be at work.
Edit: A carb snack at bedtime can help in this case.
OMG I wondered if it was something like this? It actually makes loads of sense I get night sweats a lot when I diet, is there a particular snack that would help
Protein to prevent low BG. Carbs to raise it.
I would not assume that Dr. Google has the answer though especially when you are eating too little. Have you had your BG and a1c tested recently?1 -
My HBA1c was this
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I have problems sleeping if my carbs are too low (usually associated with lower than target calories), if I exercise too close to bedtime, or I am hungry! Lots of good advise on upping your intake (that's what helped me). I often have an evening snack before bed of Siggi's fat free yogurt (adds protein/fat) plus dairy sometimes helps with sleep. Building that into the calories for the day has helped.0
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12000 steps usually corresponds to the very top of the "active" setting on MFP (or just above that) in terms of calories assuming the activities that generate the 12000 steps aren't logged a second time as separate exercises.
The deficit is too large for the TDEE and amount of fat available to be lost.
Increased misery does not enhance weight loss, nor improve adherence and success during maintenance
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I upped it to 1500 and made no difference and incorporated magnesium citrate but again still didn’t sleep, will try 1700 just worried that I won’t lose, I seem to go off the rails at the weekend which is why I prefer to restrict more in the week :-(0
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Or you going off the rails on the weekend ***because*** you're restricting so much during the week.
If you're expecting instant feedback from the weight scale you will end up trying to cut too much end in disappointment in the end.
People can judge the rate of loss after 4 to 6 weeks which gives enough time for normal weight fluctuations and for your weight trend to show through.
You're not a racing car; you're a human!8 -
kellyrosiemfp wrote: »I upped it to 1500 and made no difference and incorporated magnesium citrate but again still didn’t sleep, will try 1700 just worried that I won’t lose, I seem to go off the rails at the weekend which is why I prefer to restrict more in the week :-(
Or perhaps you go off the rails at the weekends because you aren't eating enough the rest of the week and the hunger finally catches up with you.
ETA: The worry isn't logical, if you're logging accurately and you're walking 6 miles per day, it's pretty much mathematically impossible for you not to lose weight at 1700 calories.
Even if you didn't walk the 6 miles your TDEE for a sedentary person at your stats would be 1825 calories, meaning you'd be in a deficit of 125 calories every day.
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kellyrosiemfp wrote: »I upped it to 1500 and made no difference and incorporated magnesium citrate but again still didn’t sleep, will try 1700 just worried that I won’t lose, I seem to go off the rails at the weekend which is why I prefer to restrict more in the week :-(
I don't think you are fully appreciating the changes your body goes through when in a deficit and you have been in a very steep deficit. This may not be something that is fixed in one day by eating a few more calories.
Everything about your posts screams eating too little including "going off the rails" on the weekend. You are not on a sustainable plan for losing weight. I would bet that almost everyone who has failed to lose weight in past attempts, which definitely includes me, would attribute the fear of less/no progress as a cause to some of them.
You have to find a balance that allows you to be in a deficit, stick to it on the weekends, and sleep. It starts with eating more calories and reducing your deficit. This does mean you will lose slower but from my experience slower is faster because it can get the job done where going to fast always failed for me.
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So I don't have the science behind this but I had a health professional suggest having a protein shake just before bed. It breaks down slowly and they suggested that I would wake up feeling clear headed etc.. which I did. But again - no explanation to offer on why other than protein doesn't spike your sugar and helps with the sort of rebuilding that your body dies at night.0
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So I don't have the science behind this but I had a health professional suggest having a protein shake just before bed. It breaks down slowly and they suggested that I would wake up feeling clear headed etc.. which I did. But again - no explanation to offer on why other than protein doesn't spike your sugar and helps with the sort of rebuilding that your body dies at night.
That would just have me up in the middle of the night wanting to pee lol0 -
kellyrosiemfp wrote: »Hi All, when I restrict my calories to 1200 I do not sleep, I get about two hours if I’m lucky. Has anyone had something similar which have a remedy to help? I think it may be my blood sugar which is giving me insomnia. I am literally wide awake so alert and I can feel everything like I’m really jittery, it’s literally EVERYTIME :-( unless I eat 1700 I don’t sleep and so at the moment it’s either don’t lose weight or don’t sleep. I’ve tried oil of magnesium, banana before bed, sodium chloride, Melissa dream nothing is helping. Please help!
I see you haven't posted much yet, and wonder if you realize how much valuable information is here at MFP. Take the time to educate yourself so that you get the best of all effort you are putting into your fitness goals.
Read the sticky posts and browse the forum posts.
Use the app to determine what your daily calorie count should be. There is a ton of info on the dangers of under-eating because of incorrect calorie budgets.
The fact that you can sleep when you have more calories is a pretty big clue to me that you are not eating enough.5 -
tinkerbellang83 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »I agree with everything @tinkerbellang83 says except that she used a TDEE calculator and that isn't the method Myfitnesspal uses, so if you use MFP, use the "Lose 1 pound per week" setting, use "Active" for the Activity Level, and add exercise into the Exercise tab and eat (at miminum) 50-75% of your calories required to fuel that additional exercise.
If you go by tinkerbell's idea, just eat 1700 every day and don't add back exercise calories. Myfitnesspal uses a slightly different calculation.
From Help at the top of every page: How does MyFitnessPal calculate my initial goals?
I would be unable to sleep on the amount of food and activity you are trying to do, too.
Please eat.
Sleep is the least of your problems, your body is very stressed.
That BMR x 1.6 is actually MFP's calculation not TDEE so OP should still be counting any intentional exercise above the 6 miles of walking i.e. running/strength training/sports/etc.
If she is consuming 1200 a day... Wouldn't that mean there is zero activity in her mfp equation... I thought the only way to get 1200 daily limit is to put max loss weekly and sedentary activity level, meaning she is not eating for her activity level (6 miles daily), much less, eating appropriate calories for her height and goal.
Not trying to disagree, just adding.
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Latingal19 wrote: »I’m not sure if anyone mentioned it already but try melatonin
That's why I originally clicked on this thread, was to suggest melatonin. But after reading through her stats, her body is under stress from not intaking enough calories for energy. Chances are it's over producing cortisol and adrenaline from the stress it's under, which is keeping her wired. Eating too low can be extremely dangerous.6 -
Emmapatterson1729 wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »I agree with everything @tinkerbellang83 says except that she used a TDEE calculator and that isn't the method Myfitnesspal uses, so if you use MFP, use the "Lose 1 pound per week" setting, use "Active" for the Activity Level, and add exercise into the Exercise tab and eat (at miminum) 50-75% of your calories required to fuel that additional exercise.
If you go by tinkerbell's idea, just eat 1700 every day and don't add back exercise calories. Myfitnesspal uses a slightly different calculation.
From Help at the top of every page: How does MyFitnessPal calculate my initial goals?
I would be unable to sleep on the amount of food and activity you are trying to do, too.
Please eat.
Sleep is the least of your problems, your body is very stressed.
That BMR x 1.6 is actually MFP's calculation not TDEE so OP should still be counting any intentional exercise above the 6 miles of walking i.e. running/strength training/sports/etc.
If she is consuming 1200 a day... Wouldn't that mean there is zero activity in her mfp equation... I thought the only way to get 1200 daily limit is to put max loss weekly and sedentary activity level, meaning she is not eating for her activity level (6 miles daily), much less, eating appropriate calories for her height and goal.
Not trying to disagree, just adding.
That really depends. At one point I could put active with a 1/2 pound a week loss and still come up at 1200 BUT at the time I was close to 100 pounds while only being 4'11. Even now MFP gives me maintenance calories of 1200 at sedentary although, in reality, I am around 1500 calories without exercise instead.4 -
A shot of whisky or two makes me sleep like a baby - wife says, I also snore...0
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I had very scary nightmares on Melatonin. I also had no good come from "a shot of whisky or two."
OP,kellyrosiemfp wrote: »I upped it to 1500 and made no difference and incorporated magnesium citrate but again still didn’t sleep, will try 1700 just worried that I won’t lose, I seem to go off the rails at the weekend which is why I prefer to restrict more in the week :-(
When you posted the above, it was Day One on 1500. How are you doing now? If the scale shows a tiny uptick, just stay the course, you NEED to get up to 1700 as soon as possible. You will start losing on 1700, honest.
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