In shape before X-MAS !!!
Mr_Keto
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Time to beat the sheep and be in shape before the new year resolutioners !!!
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Keto diet is THE best diet to lose 2 stones before X-MAS !!! Let’s do this together and push each other !!!1
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Keto dieters in the first two weeks drop 10-15 pounds. It's then that 1-2 lbs. begins. I've been on it six weeks. My first two weeks: -15 pounds. My next four weeks: -10 lbs.1
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candylilacs wrote: »Keto dieters in the first two weeks drop 10-15 pounds. It's then that 1-2 lbs. begins. I've been on it six weeks. My first two weeks: -15 pounds. My next four weeks: -10 lbs.
It’s very common to drop a large amount of water weight quickly when one begins a calorie deficit, especially if they are restricting carbs as well. However, after that initial water weight loss, then your healthy pace of fat loss will depend on how much you have to lose. Fat loss is caused by a consistent calorie deficit, not by any specific way of eating.10 -
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Believing that 2 stones weight loss = "in shape" is the first misperception.
Believing water weight depletion is just as good as fat loss is the second.
Keto can be a good strategy for people who are satiated by fat intake, or find carbs appetite-triggering. Over a long term (like now to Christmas), weight loss is all about calorie level, keto or no. Even over the short term, fat loss (as distinct from reduced weight on the scale) is about calories, period.
For "in shape" add exercise (strength and cardio) and well rounded nutrition (keto or not).18 -
It’s very common to drop a large amount of water weight quickly when one begins a calorie deficit, especially if they are restricting carbs as well. However, after that initial water weight loss, then your healthy pace of fat loss will depend on how much you have to lose. Fat loss is caused by a consistent calorie deficit, not by any specific way of eating.
I have been on this ride before. At the age of 16, I lost 90 pounds, what was then called the Atkins diet. I had a negative body image and saw this skyrocket in my 20-30s.
So I saw the "Keto" diet, and I wanted not to be on it. It was my husband's idea and I went with it with a skeptical eye, I might add. The "keto" isn't bad and since the Atkin's Diet it's gotten to be more vegetables and fruit. It's also blood glucose 199 to 100.
I'm under the watchful eye of a therapist specializing in eating disorders. So all you 4 disagreers . . .keep to yourselves.4 -
Blondie3012 wrote: »
Beware of people telling you something is "THE best diet" for everyone. That's nonsense.
Keto is a good solution for some people, no question. But people are individuals, and different strategies will work better for different people. There are dozens of different ways to eat less and be satisified/happy. Keto is one that works well for some people.
There are other named diets that people follow (whole food plant based, paleo, Mediterranean, whatever), and then there's just "eat less of foods you like and find filling, while getting basically decent nutrition". At the same calorie level, the weight loss will be pretty much the same with all of them. One diet vs. another may be more filling, enjoyable or sustainable for a specific person, with a different answer better for someone else. Find your "best diet".13 -
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@Blondie3012
Hi, first of all you cut out all carbs out of your diet and only consume healthy fats and protein. (You can calculate the macro breakdown from your body’s stats and activity level etc). You do this for two weeks and on the last day (ideally) in the evening you have a refeed meal which consist of carbs to replenish your glycogen store and you start the protein/fat consumaption again. Cardio and strength training 3-4 times a week.
I can see a lot of people as above have disagreed, I can understand why because it’s the hardest and mentally challenging diet you can do and people shy away from it. For me personally after trying 100’s of diets this one worked and worked on my friends and family who also gave it a go. Most important I got RESULTS !!! Don’t get me wrong this is a tough diet and it will challenge you mentally and you will feel like to give up to begin with but if you stick to it. You’ll notice small results daily and even bigger results weekly.3 -
@Blondie3012
Hi, first of all you cut out all carbs out of your diet and only consume healthy fats and protein. (You can calculate the macro breakdown from your body’s stats and activity level etc). You do this for two weeks and on the last day (ideally) in the evening you have a refeed meal which consist of carbs to replenish your glycogen store and you start the protein/fat consumaption again. Cardio and strength training 3-4 times a week.
I can see a lot of people as above have disagreed, I can understand why because it’s the hardest and mentally challenging diet you can do and people shy away from it. For me personally after trying 100’s of diets this one worked and worked on my friends and family who also gave it a go. Most important I got RESULTS !!! Don’t get me wrong this is a tough diet and it will challenge you mentally and you will feel like to give up to begin with but if you stick to it. You’ll notice small results daily and even bigger results weekly.
People have disagreed because you've said it's "the best diet" as a blanket statement, this is not true.
The best diet is one that helps the individual stick to a calorie deficit long term and satiates them. Not everyone is satiated by a higher fat diet. I got my RESULTS just fine on a 25% P/30% F/ 45% C diet, as have people with other macro splits. If you find a diet hard whilst losing weight, you're likely to find it even harder when maintaining, so why go out of your way to make it more difficult than it needs to be? Just because it's worked well for you does not mean it will work well for everyone.16 -
@Blondie3012
Hi, first of all you cut out all carbs out of your diet and only consume healthy fats and protein. (You can calculate the macro breakdown from your body’s stats and activity level etc). You do this for two weeks and on the last day (ideally) in the evening you have a refeed meal which consist of carbs to replenish your glycogen store and you start the protein/fat consumaption again. Cardio and strength training 3-4 times a week.
I can see a lot of people as above have disagreed, I can understand why because it’s the hardest and mentally challenging diet you can do and people shy away from it. For me personally after trying 100’s of diets this one worked and worked on my friends and family who also gave it a go. Most important I got RESULTS !!! Don’t get me wrong this is a tough diet and it will challenge you mentally and you will feel like to give up to begin with but if you stick to it. You’ll notice small results daily and even bigger results weekly.
If that's what works best for you, that's great.
Me, I lost around 50 pounds in less than a year, eating about 150g carbs daily, and have maintained a healthy weight for 4 years since, eating more like 200g carbs most days. It wasn't all that hard or challenging, which I personally prefer.16 -
I eat around 150 to 200 carbs a day. Down 77 lbs this year so far (since april). I completely disagree with KETO being the best "diet" out there. But hey, go for it.12
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candylilacs wrote: »It’s very common to drop a large amount of water weight quickly when one begins a calorie deficit, especially if they are restricting carbs as well. However, after that initial water weight loss, then your healthy pace of fat loss will depend on how much you have to lose. Fat loss is caused by a consistent calorie deficit, not by any specific way of eating.
I have been on this ride before. At the age of 16, I lost 90 pounds, what was then called the Atkins diet. I had a negative body image and saw this skyrocket in my 20-30s.
So I saw the "Keto" diet, and I wanted not to be on it. It was my husband's idea and I went with it with a skeptical eye, I might add. The "keto" isn't bad and since the Atkin's Diet it's gotten to be more vegetables and fruit. It's also blood glucose 199 to 100.
I'm under the watchful eye of a therapist specializing in eating disorders. So all you 4 disagreers . . .keep to yourselves.
We are allowed to disagree. That's what the forums are for. The fact that you want to silence people with different perspectives is disheartening and dangerous.
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@Blondie3012
Hi, first of all you cut out all carbs out of your diet and only consume healthy fats and protein. (You can calculate the macro breakdown from your body’s stats and activity level etc). You do this for two weeks and on the last day (ideally) in the evening you have a refeed meal which consist of carbs to replenish your glycogen store and you start the protein/fat consumaption again. Cardio and strength training 3-4 times a week.
I can see a lot of people as above have disagreed, I can understand why because it’s the hardest and mentally challenging diet you can do and people shy away from it. For me personally after trying 100’s of diets this one worked and worked on my friends and family who also gave it a go. Most important I got RESULTS !!! Don’t get me wrong this is a tough diet and it will challenge you mentally and you will feel like to give up to begin with but if you stick to it. You’ll notice small results daily and even bigger results weekly.
Tough and additional mental challenge is exactly what I am trying to avoid. Why would I risk making weight loss any harder than it needs to be? The overwhelming majority of people who try to lose down to a healthy weight goal fail to do it. Of those that do make it to goal most will regain weight.
I hope this plan is the one that helps you get to goal and keep it off. I am worried because you say that eating this way is tough. That is not a good sign.13 -
candylilacs wrote:Keto dieters in the first two weeks drop 10-15 pounds. It's then that 1-2 lbs. begins. I've been on it six weeks. My first two weeks: -15 pounds. My next four weeks: -10 lbs
I'm just saying what I've been doing. "Disagree" signals that I am lying.We are allowed to disagree. That's what the forums are for. The fact that you want to silence people with different perspectives is disheartening and dangerous.
"Disheartening and dangerous"? The only silencers are moderators. You may not agree with keto-ers, but disagreeing with them is accusing them of lying. "Disheartening and dangerous" is straight out of 1984's Ministry of Love.
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candylilacs wrote: »candylilacs wrote:Keto dieters in the first two weeks drop 10-15 pounds. It's then that 1-2 lbs. begins. I've been on it six weeks. My first two weeks: -15 pounds. My next four weeks: -10 lbs
I'm just saying what I've been doing. "Disagree" signals that I am lying.We are allowed to disagree. That's what the forums are for. The fact that you want to silence people with different perspectives is disheartening and dangerous.
"Disheartening and dangerous"? The only silencers are moderators. You may not agree with keto-ers, but disagreeing with them is accusing them of lying. "Disheartening and dangerous" is straight out of 1984's Ministry of Love.
While I wasn't one of them, I believe the disagrees might be because you said "keto dieters" lose 10-15 lbs in the first two weeks and 1-2 lbs after, not that you lost that. And that simply isn't true for everyone, it depends on what carb level you were naturally eating at before keto and your personal physiology around holding and releasing water weight. Plus a keto dieter, just like any other dieter, will lose as much in the following weeks as their calorie deficit allows, which won't necessarily be 1-2 lbs.
Unfortunately, when folks click on a reaction, there is no way to tell which part of a post they are reacting to, but I would guess that, as opposed to them saying you are lying about your own progress..Time to beat the sheep and be in shape before the new year resolutioners !!!
It is not possible or safe to lose 28 lbs of fat before the end of the year unless you are quite obese, but if you are drastically cutting carbs and lose a bunch of water weight in the first couple of weeks, I suppose you might get close. If 28 lbs is the total you need to lose to get to a healthy weight, then you should probably be looking to lose @ 1 lb per week after those first couple of weeks.
I will not be joining you as I do much better eating higher carb and have been able to maintain eating the same way I lost weight
As others have said, if you find keto difficult, you might have better luck maintaining a healthy weight if you focus on figuring out how to eat at the right calorie level in a way that is easy for you, but that's just something to think about. Whatever path you choose, take good care of yourself and best of luck! 11 -
Keto was never meant to be a weight loss diet. While you will lose water weight, fat loss happens because of calorie deficits. You can do that without having to avoid a whole macro. And to cut out "all carbs" is virtually impossible unless you truly plan to only eat pure fat and protein for the next few weeks.
Then what happens after XMAS? Do you resume your regular diet? How long can you maintain pure ketosis for? What are the long term effects of the keto diet? Weight loss doesn't imply health because even starvation and chemo will cause weight loss.5 -
Do whatever makes it easiest for you to eat the right number of calories for a reasonable deficit. The rest is just noise.
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While I wasn't one of them, I believe the disagrees might be because you said "keto dieters" lose 10-15 lbs in the first two weeks and 1-2 lbs after, not that you lost that. And that simply isn't true for everyone, it depends on what carb level you were naturally eating at before keto and your personal physiology around holding and releasing water weight. Plus a keto dieter, just like any other dieter, will lose as much in the following weeks as their calorie deficit allows, which won't necessarily be 1-2 lbs.
I ended up losing 15 lbs in first two weeks, and I lost 10 lbs in the next four weeks.1 -
candylilacs wrote: »While I wasn't one of them, I believe the disagrees might be because you said "keto dieters" lose 10-15 lbs in the first two weeks and 1-2 lbs after, not that you lost that. And that simply isn't true for everyone, it depends on what carb level you were naturally eating at before keto and your personal physiology around holding and releasing water weight. Plus a keto dieter, just like any other dieter, will lose as much in the following weeks as their calorie deficit allows, which won't necessarily be 1-2 lbs.
I ended up losing 15 lbs in first two weeks, and I lost 10 lbs in the next four weeks.
You do understand though that not everyone will be able to replicate your results and that Keto is not required to have these results. I lost 27 pounds my first six weeks and I was definitely not on Keto. I was eating a lot of carbs most of that time. I was still eating chicken nuggets/strips and french fries too.
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Ok a guys, I take everyone’s point on board and you’re right it was not fair for me to say that Keto is THE best diet. This was a personal statement for me but I understand how this may not apply to EVERY single person. Keto in my opinion is amazing with great health benefits and the results you can achieve. Anyone interested in bouncing idea’s and learning from each other can leave comments so they can be discuss...6
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Ok a guys, I take everyone’s point on board and you’re right it was not fair for me to say that Keto is THE best diet. This was a personal statement for me but I understand how this may not apply to EVERY single person. Keto in my opinion is amazing with great health benefits and the results you can achieve. Anyone interested in bouncing idea’s and learning from each other can leave comments so they can be discuss...
But even the health benefits of Keto are debatable outside of certain brain conditions. Weight loss provides health benefits or at least a reduction of health risks if it is achieved in ANY reasonably healthy manner.
The less significance you apply to any specific weight loss method the better off you will be if you cannot sustain it. You need to feel like you can move to something else and achieve similar results because you can. If you can lose weight with Keto you can lose weight with any plan that results in a calorie deficit. Lots of people come through here in their honeymoon phase with a particular plan. It is often the greatest thing since sliced bread but it is also often premature. It is generally not hard to stick to a plan for a short time. The question is what happens after 6 months, a year, and beyond? Last week I passed by the 20th month of my plan.7 -
It's like calorie counting. I simply count carbohydrates. My diary is public.1
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Quick staff note - there are a couple of threads in this discussion that are derailing so I am closing it but wanted to make a couple of comments.
1. The disagree button is intended as a respectful and non-disruptive way of allowing users to disagree with a statement. We can disagree with ideas and concepts. It is meant to help prevent this from happening, a discussion derailing because a lot of folks disagree, its not intended to be hurtful.
2. Let's try to remember the context of another's post; its fine to come in and disagree, but this isn't a debate section and its reasonable for someone to post about following a keto diet in Getting Started and not have it turn into a full debate.7
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