CBD?
Theoldguy1
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Opinions on CBD products. Anything you use and benefits you see? Thanks much.
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My friends swore by it for joint problems. As far as I could see, neither consuming it nor applying it topically had much effect, for me. (I used the same brand they did.) I gave it a lengthy, honest trial.
I don't have anxiety problems, AFAIK, but saw no effect on mood, either.
Others' mileage will differ.4 -
I'll take the "other" active ingredient personally... lol9
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Didn't work for me.3
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I concur that the other active ingredient has been more therapeutic for me.3
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Neither ingredient helped me very much unfortunately2
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I use topical CBD in my neck, knees and sometimes the lower back, and it has been very helpful for me, better than Voltaren Cream or gel. I know that some people use the gummies or the oil but I am very concerned about ingesting CBD in any type or form even when I know that THC is not part of the formulation.3
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CBD topically helped my knee pain quite a bit, and taking it orally helped with insomnia and nausea due to chemotherapy. It's not a miracle drug, but it can be useful. I didn't have any side effects from it but I noticed that I had to keep increasing the dosage to get the same benefit .
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I had very high hopes for CBD but seems like it's not much of a help for anything,well not as outstanding as the claims, would use the other active ingredient but I don't like how I feel😵2
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I had very high hopes for CBD but seems like it's not much of a help for anything,well not as outstanding as the claims, would use the other active ingredient but I don't like how I feel😵
Sorry that it didn't work for you, but as I and @ookoolady reported above, we both had help and relief using topical CBD. All kind of meds, OTC and/or prescription meds, have different results (or none), or side effects, depending on the user.
Have you tried Diclofenac topical cream? It is a prescription med but not cheap, that is why my insurance only pays for the generic version (Voltaren). For me, the generic version is not as effective as the original one, although I still use it when I run out of CBD. So me relief is better than none2 -
I have had serious sleep issues my whole life. In recent years, I became psychologically dependent on Lunesta (afraid to try to sleep without it), but it ramped up my daytime anxiety to unbearable and dangerous levels.
I decided something had to change, stopped Lunesta, and started taking time release melatonin on the advice of my doctor. I was still sleeping poorly and saw a study about CBD oil and sleeping (I believe the study was about PTSD). I got a low dose gummy just to try. I wasn't expecting it, but it greatly reduced my nightly nightmares which had a big impact on improving sleep hours.
Since then, I have added a gummy in the morning for anxiety.
Times I have run out or traveled where I couldn't pack them, I immediately have nightmares again and have increased anxiety issues especially social anxiety.
I'm generally a skeptic and don't usually take any supplements that aren't recommended by my doctor, but CBD oil really works for my brain.
I haven't noticed any effect on pain, unfortunately.11 -
I personally don’t think it’s the miraculous cure-all that some people/companies tout it as. It helps some people with certain things, but in a sense it’s just another fad-of-the-year type thing. Snake oil. If it helps some people, great, but in a few years I’m sure all the hype will have died down a bit.8
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How could it be a fad or a snake oil if It "helps some people with certain things?" Did you use topical CBD cream for any of your ailments or OA pain?0
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I wish there were more clinical studies to determine the best dosage and delivery system (topical vs sublingual vs gummies, etc) and better inspection of the manufacturers to insure the strength and purity of the product.5
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@ ookoolady
I agree, but since it is an OTC product with many manufacturers in the picture, and knowing by training and experience what involves to have a product in a clinical trial, it will never happen. Unless a major pharmaceutical company or the government get involved, and in that case you may have the FDA involved too.
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Interesting thoughts, thanks much.
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I'm not here to tell people what they can/can't or should/shouldn't do. I just think it's always good to be a skeptical consumer. CBD products are certainly worthy of any amount of skepticism.
https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2019/09/ftc-sends-warning-letters-companies-advertising-their-cbd-infused
https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2019/10/ftc-fda-warn-florida-company-marketing-cbd-products-about-claims5 -
I'm only aware of one treatment for certain types of seizures that has been clinically evaluated, leading to the drug Epidiolex. There is some evidence on treatment for pain and anxiety, but that is preliminary at this time.
The rest of the claims are unsubstantiated by any studies at this point and are anecdotal, and some of the claims seem to be going straight into snake oil territory. While anecdotes provide some guidance on areas for further study, the plural of anecdote is not data.3 -
@The_Enginerd
Your comment must be referring to CBD oil or "gummies," in general. In my postings I was only referring to CBD topical cream. I never took the oil or ingested the gummies because I am not comfortable putting those things in my body even when I know that they do not have THC. But I do know of several people with painful OA that find relief with the oil. The cream works for me, and it has also be recommended by three doctors.
I am glad that Epidiolex works for children suffering of some forms of epilepsy. It has only been approved last year, but is still good news.1 -
I had very high hopes for CBD but seems like it's not much of a help for anything,well not as outstanding as the claims, would use the other active ingredient but I don't like how I feel😵
Sorry that it didn't work for you, but as I and @ookoolady reported above, we both had help and relief using topical CBD. All kind of meds, OTC and/or prescription meds, have different results (or none), or side effects, depending on the user.
Have you tried Diclofenac topical cream? It is a prescription med but not cheap, that is why my insurance only pays for the generic version (Voltaren). For me, the generic version is not as effective as the original one, although I still use it when I run out of CBD. So me relief is better than none
I never said anything about using it for pain,I wanted it to work for my terrible insomnia and sometimes anxiety cuz I'd rather use it than any meds but like someone stated there's all kinds of different manufacturers and I'm sure I just haven't found the right one or heck maybe it just doesn't work for some people,I'm not sure it's snake oil but from my personal experience and from what Ive read and heard from others it's NOT the miracle cure it's all cracked up to be🤷3 -
I've been trying it for poor sleep, after being recommended it by a friend. It would be great if it works, and would also be good for the knee pain I get sometimes. I've only been trying it for a week or so (a drop under the tonge at night), and not sure if there has been any improvement in my sleep (which is only sporadically poor). It tastes pretty rank though!0
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Tongue, not tonge. I wish there was an edit feature.0
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Pipsqueak1965 wrote: »Tongue, not tonge. I wish there was an edit feature.
@Pipsqueak1965
For one hour, there is a little edit mark to the right of the three dots in upper right corner of your post. 😀
I use gummies for sleep because they last longer in your system. I'm pretty small and 10 mg helps me.0 -
I have a topical cream I use for sore muscles...I've never tried it for any kind of major pain or chronic pain, just sore muscles like I would Icy Hot and it seems to work.
I ingest oil about 30 minutes before bed and it has helped me immensely with sleeping issues. I take a lower dose in the morning and it has helped a lot with my generalized anxiety disorder and I haven't needed my tranquilizers in quite awhile.
I think some of the claims are pretty out there, but I think it definitely helps with sleep and anxiety and helps you just relax.1 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »I have a topical cream I use for sore muscles...I've never tried it for any kind of major pain or chronic pain, just sore muscles like I would Icy Hot and it seems to work.
I ingest oil about 30 minutes before bed and it has helped me immensely with sleeping issues. I take a lower dose in the morning and it has helped a lot with my generalized anxiety disorder and I haven't needed my tranquilizers in quite awhile.
I think some of the claims are pretty out there, but I think it definitely helps with sleep and anxiety and helps you just relax.
I wish that outcome were universal. I'm not questioning that it works for you or others, and that's great.
But when I was taking oral CBD oil twice a day, supposedly validated brand, for a several months, there was no noticeable change in the sleep interruption insomnia I've had for nearly 20 years now.
I've tried every bleepin' thing I could think of (including sleep studies, prescription drugs, sleep hygiene changes, hypnotherapy, all the home remedies like hot milk or chamomile tea, meditation and I can't remember what-all else). Hypnosis and sleep apnea treatment (in that order) were the most helpful, but not even remotely a cure. I wish CBD were it. THC doesn't seem to be, either, FTR, though I haven't gone long-course daily with that because I don't like how it fuzzes up my brain.0 -
I am sorry about your sleep problems Ann; have you tried Magnesium Glycinate too?
It is and OTC supplement that my neurologist recommended to help reduce my tension HAs and migraines. However, an additional blessing was a more restful night sleep, at least for me. I fall asleep faster and I even go back to it without a problem when I get up to use the bathroom.
I take a 200mg or 400mg tablet about an hr before going to bed and it does the trick. Something else to think about it and talk with your GP. Good luck.2 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »I have a topical cream I use for sore muscles...I've never tried it for any kind of major pain or chronic pain, just sore muscles like I would Icy Hot and it seems to work.
I ingest oil about 30 minutes before bed and it has helped me immensely with sleeping issues. I take a lower dose in the morning and it has helped a lot with my generalized anxiety disorder and I haven't needed my tranquilizers in quite awhile.
I think some of the claims are pretty out there, but I think it definitely helps with sleep and anxiety and helps you just relax.
I wish I only had sore muscles. I have pain due to OA from my neck to lower back, and the only thing that helps me, specially at night, is heat before going to bed, and either a special Lidocaine patch (by prescription) or Voltaren gel, and sometimes Salon Pas. While the CBD cream is the best for the neck area.
I exercise daily and also take yoga classes three times a week, but I do need topical help. Glad that CBD oil helps you with your anxiety and sleep issues.0 -
I tried vaping it because I'd heard (anecdotally) that it might help inflammation (I have ulcerative colitis) I did actually lose weight (which wasn't my goal) - it seemed to curb my appetite. I stopped using it because having no appetite is miserable, in my opinion. Could have been pure coincidence.0
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I had very high hopes for CBD but seems like it's not much of a help for anything,well not as outstanding as the claims, would use the other active ingredient but I don't like how I feel😵
Sorry that it didn't work for you, but as I and @ookoolady reported above, we both had help and relief using topical CBD. All kind of meds, OTC and/or prescription meds, have different results (or none), or side effects, depending on the user.
Have you tried Diclofenac topical cream? It is a prescription med but not cheap, that is why my insurance only pays for the generic version (Voltaren). For me, the generic version is not as effective as the original one, although I still use it when I run out of CBD. So me relief is better than none
I never said anything about using it for pain,I wanted it to work for my terrible insomnia and sometimes anxiety cuz I'd rather use it than any meds but like someone stated there's all kinds of different manufacturers and I'm sure I just haven't found the right one or heck maybe it just doesn't work for some people,I'm not sure it's snake oil but from my personal experience and from what Ive read and heard from others it's NOT the miracle cure it's all cracked up to be🤷
I found it did nothing for insomnia. And I've heard that with anxiety you should take only a small dose. It's trial and error, with different brands, different ingredients (some relax, some stimulate) and different doses0 -
I use 1/2 dropper of the 1500m under my tongue. It helps me sleep. Havn't tried it as a topical. One drop won't do anything.0
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I use CBD oil cream (just CBD oil and cocoa butter) on my fubared ankle and occasionally on my shoulder. For the ankle, it made my life a million times better - not because it made my ankle all better, but mostly because that constant, 24-7, no-matter-what, every minute, every day, ache actually went away. Don't get me wrong - it still will hurt, it still has bad days, but I can sit at my desk or sleep pain free unless it's being cranky for whatever reason.
For my shoulder, I just use it when I've been pushing it and it's feeling a little achy but not really "in pain." Seems to help keep it from getting any worse or having to skip workouts.
I use it topically only, 2x/day (most days). If I miss a few days, I can tell - that cranky ankle starts cranking again.
I've had a few other people report very similar findings to me.
I use the zatural brand and just get it off Amazon. I wasn't looking for a full-blown pain killer, but just a break from the constant low-level ache, and it did that amazingly well. I was very skeptical, but a number of people in my group for those with this kind of fracture (a pilon fracture) swore by it, so I gave it a try.4
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