What’s a foodie to do?
Cora0477
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I don’t know that I could legitimately call myself a foodie (and so I don’t), but my family loves to try new foods and restaurants. Especially authentic ethnic ones. Yesterday we went to see a movie and tried a well rated Russian place nearby. We ordered a bunch of stuff to eat family style. It was all amazing. Trouble is, I have no idea what ingredients were in most of the foods so I couldn’t even begin to estimate calories.
We have an Afghan restaurant just up the road from us that we love, and the Korean Market in our area has an excellent restaurant inside. Any time we hear of a highly rated Indian buffet, we try it out too. We like Polish, Swiss, Greek, Peruvian, Cuban, etc. But they all have the same trouble. Unfamiliar foods and no listed calories.
I usually try to find something on MFP that semi-resembles whatever we’ve eaten, but it’s really a wild stab in the dark. Does anyone have any tips on how they deal with hole-in-the-wall restaurants and unfamiliar foods they don’t know that calories for?
We have an Afghan restaurant just up the road from us that we love, and the Korean Market in our area has an excellent restaurant inside. Any time we hear of a highly rated Indian buffet, we try it out too. We like Polish, Swiss, Greek, Peruvian, Cuban, etc. But they all have the same trouble. Unfamiliar foods and no listed calories.
I usually try to find something on MFP that semi-resembles whatever we’ve eaten, but it’s really a wild stab in the dark. Does anyone have any tips on how they deal with hole-in-the-wall restaurants and unfamiliar foods they don’t know that calories for?
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I don't eat out that often. That's how I deal with it.
When I do eat out, I am fairly good at portion control OR I just throw caution to the wind and eat whatever, depending on how I feel.
I've gotten fairly comfortable guessing on portions and ingredients in restaurants since I use a food scale at home. All I can do is guess.
So if you are going to go out to eat a lot, that's really all you can do. If it works, great. If not, I guess you'll have to do something different.2 -
I typically get the name of the dish, and then look up 2-3 recipes for whatever. If I *liked it,* I might even make a couple of the better looking recipes and log the calories as I cook.
Doing this has taught me to identify a lot of ingredients by taste and texture, which can help me get closer estimates by recipe or by going through the database.
Basically... Look up recipes, enter them in, and see what the averages are. Once you've figured out how calorically dense something is, estimations become a lot more accurate for volume.9 -
The other thing you may look into is whether or not those restaurants have their menus posted online. A lot of places do these days, which allows me to do my food research in advance, and if something looks too difficult to parse blind, I skip ordering it and get something else.2
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I just consider those situations splurge days. I try to burn an extra 2000-3000 calories throughout the week to make up for splurge day.4
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There really is only so much you can do. On days you eat at those type of restaurants, it is not really going to be possible to have any sort of accurate log.
You can only try to use common sense to make good choices, because ultimately your body counts the calories for you even if you can't log them. That means keeping your portions moderate and trying to pick foods that by the descriptions seem lower calories: trying to stear clear of breaded, fried, creamy, etc.
The truth is that regularly dining out at restaurants where you and your family order a bunch of things to eat family style may not lend itself as the best lifestlye for successful weight loss. It doesn't mean you can never do that, but if it is a regular occurance it could make moderating and tracking calories pretty challenging.9 -
It depends on how often this is happening. If the vast majority of time you are weighing your food and being very cautious with the MFP food entries you select you can just continue to do your best. That is what we all do.
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I like to eat out and essentially do what @ElisabethKalmbach suggests in terms of logging. I also compensate by doing extra cardio when I plan to eat out.1
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There really is only so much you can do. On days you eat at those type of restaurants, it is not really going to be possible to have any sort of accurate log.
You can only try to use common sense to make good choices, because ultimately your body counts the calories for you even if you can't log them. That means keeping your portions moderate and trying to pick foods that by the descriptions seem lower calories: trying to stear clear of breaded, fried, creamy, etc.
The truth is that regularly dining out at restaurants where you and your family order a bunch of things to eat family style may not lend itself as the best lifestlye for successful weight loss. It doesn't mean you can never do that, but if it is a regular occurance it could make moderating and tracking calories pretty challenging.
This. And even if you are not doing family style regular visits to a restaurant can make things less consistent. That includes eating at places where the calories are listed because they can be off or the food inconsistently prepared compared to what was submitted for calorie testing.
It doesn't mean restaurants have to be avoided. It just means that if your weight loss slows down or stops you may need different strategies if you are going to eat out more often. I like to log my restaurant food as 1.1 or 1.2 servings or I purposefully do not finish a dish and still log it as a full serving when I eat out more. If a week goes by and all I get is a single pizza I log it normally.4 -
I eat most of my food and meals at home, and though I definitely eat more at those restaurants than I would at home, I don’t use them as pig-out sessions. Just a few bites of everything to get to try all the new flavors. I don’t have much to lose, but that narrows down my calorie wiggle room. For balance I try to skip stuff that’s not new or interesting. Like the rest of the family got Cold Stone Creamery afterwards, but that’s not unique or something I couldn’t factor in on another day, so I didn’t get any.
It helps to see how people approach it from different angles. Thank you all for the replies!3 -
I don’t really eat out much, but love to cook and bake and try new recipes.
I would look up recipes for the foods I choose and plug it in the recipe builder. It wouldn’t be exact, but close enough. Plus you can make it for your family if it’s something you really liked.1 -
Any time you eat food that you didn't cook yourself, or that you cannot weigh along with an accurate nutrition label, then you're estimating your calorie intake. Having lots of estimates in your food diary means you risk making your deficit smaller or eliminating it entirely. In addition, restaurant food is usually high calorie and hard for me to fit into my calorie goal.
I address this by going out to eat only once a week if I can. Usually we'll go out for lunch on one weekend day. I save up calories during the week for my restaurant meal, and/or we go out to eat after our usual exercise. I still have logging errors, but this helps me minimize them.0 -
I eat out a lot. Looking up recipes is a good strategy. But in all honesty if you are paying attention to what you are eating at all times you should get a feel for what is rich and fatty, what is lighter, what is full of carbs and so forth. Particularly if you are conscious of your own body's reaction to food and how it makes you feel. I can't eat a lot of very rich, fatty food any more because it makes me reach satiety very quickly. Restaurants will usually tell you if something is grilled or fried so you can use that information to make your choices, too.
Or just enjoy (with some care) and don't sweat it.3 -
It’s good advice to look up a few recipes on Pinterest and take an average account of calories per portion. Thanks!
I do not like to cook though, so at home my aim is as few ingredients and as little effort as possible. Makes it easy to log home food though!0 -
Either, I don't log at all. Or, if I'm wanting to be consistent with my logging, I search the database for the name of the dish and pick something somewhere in the middle (calorie-wise).
I don't eat out a whole lot so it's not as much of an issue for me. If this is something you do regularly, you might have trouble losing weight unfortunately. There's no way to be accurate at a restaurant.1 -
I would make sensible choices when you eat out ie lean meats and vegetables and only have small portions of caloric dense foods. Guesstimate a log in your diary and monitor your weight loss. If you stop losing you’ll know your consuming more than you think and will need to cut back1
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I know you’ve said you don’t like to cook, but I can’t help feeling that the problem lies right there!
I’m definitely a foodie (if that out of date term is still meaningful) and I couldn’t be if I relied on eating out whilst trying to lose weight.
I’m in the U.K. so I fully understand that our culture is not as eating-out-centric as you are in the US...but, if you’re really interested in different cuisines and new food experiences and still want to control your intake then I’m fairly sure you would be better served by cooking at home.
I research, read recipes, and get slightly fixated on cuisines, ingredients and combinations of ingredients and come up with ways I can experience those new flavours, textures and experiences and still stay within my calorie goals. Some of this research actually helps me indulge my foodie tendencies without actually consuming the calories I’m sure, but if you can’t log your indulgence, over time and without control of the contents of your meals you’re likely to struggle. Restaurant foods are likely way higher in fat and high fat dairy than similar foods prepared at home, with mindfulness!1 -
I don’t know that I could legitimately call myself a foodie (and so I don’t), but my family loves to try new foods and restaurants. Especially authentic ethnic ones. Yesterday we went to see a movie and tried a well rated Russian place nearby. We ordered a bunch of stuff to eat family style. It was all amazing. Trouble is, I have no idea what ingredients were in most of the foods so I couldn’t even begin to estimate calories.
We have an Afghan restaurant just up the road from us that we love, and the Korean Market in our area has an excellent restaurant inside. Any time we hear of a highly rated Indian buffet, we try it out too. We like Polish, Swiss, Greek, Peruvian, Cuban, etc. But they all have the same trouble. Unfamiliar foods and no listed calories.
I usually try to find something on MFP that semi-resembles whatever we’ve eaten, but it’s really a wild stab in the dark. Does anyone have any tips on how they deal with hole-in-the-wall restaurants and unfamiliar foods they don’t know that calories for?
Hi @Cora0477 - this is timely for me. I eat at restaurants 3-4 or more times per week. I agree with many of our above posters/- if you don’t know the ingredients the most you can do is guesstimate to the best of your ability.
I love trying new food. If I’m stumped with the ingredients- I’ll google and see what’s it’s typically made from. NONE of the restaurants I frequent have calories or nutrition available online or in their menu. Luckily- I’m friendly with a lot of the staff so I’ll ask what’s in the recipes sometimes. I know it won’t be 100% correct with logging... but I do the best I can. We frequent a Georgian/Eastern European restaurant and they make really intense concoctions—- I really just estimate the portions and try to include as many ingredients as I can.
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I realize others have said this already, but my way of handling it is to only dine out 1-2 times per week. That way I don't worry about it so much. And I do steer clear of very heavy sauces, extra bread, etc...except when it's something that is really the focus of the meal, and then I just arrange my day in such a way that my other meals are a little lighter.2
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If I go out, and I end up going considerably over my calories, I usually go for a run the next day and run a 250-500 calorie deficit (not including the run) and if need be I'll run a 250 deficit the rest of the week.1
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I estimate the weight and figure 5 cals average per gram. So 140 per ounce. Then I put my fork down...1
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Just a thought -but if you know you are going to say an Afghan restaurant, would it be worth googling Afgan food and seeing if there are some dishes/recipes that a) look enticing that you’d like to try b) working out a rough calorie idea now you know the ingredients better.
It might heighten both the anticipation and also your logging accuracy....
Enjoy those family meals. Sounds a really fun family habit to me!4 -
I tend to look up something similarish, and make sure I overestimate, as restaurant food tends to be very calorific (with extra oil/butter etc etc). But then, I don't eat out that often. Maybe once or twice a month or so.2
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You are so, so lucky to live in such a diverse area! That would be the death of me in no time! Most of the time the trick is to use different spices and new combinations to make my meals interesting. But going out for a great meal? I just could not imagine myself carrying a food scale with me. As it is, we go out once or twice a month for a really good meal where we don't worry about calories / macros / carbs etc. Namtabmi (above) has the right approach: I take it a bit easier the day before and also watch my calories the day after. I keep 10 days records - as long as I am sort of balanced out according to the MFP weight loss calculations, I keep on losing weight slowly.1
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I do feel lucky! We move a lot and when we got here last year and started discovering all the diverse places with good food, I was like, “You are going to have to roll me out of this city when we move on to the next!”
We only eat out once, maybe twice a week, but it’s almost always spontaneous. We went to the mall on Monday to get our phone screens fixed and came across Wasabi. We’ve never been to one before but we used to go to a lower quality (and cheaper!) version with the kids when we lived in Hawaii called Genki Sushi. It’s sushi on a conveyor and you just choose what you want as it floats past you. I had used up most of my calories for the day so I didn’t get anything, but I took a few bites of some of the things my husband got just to try them and they were SO good! Quality too -which surprised me for a mall. We will definitely go back another day.
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I should add that this place does not have calories listed even online, but since it was all basic/common stuff, it was easy to find comparable items in MFP to log all the bites with. And I did stay on track with calories for the day.1
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