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Why is no one here urging this man to eat healthy foods? I just don't get it. We don't change when we don't change. If he keeps eating fast food his health, not just his weight, won't get any better. But hey it's ok to eat junk, IIFYM.. I guess.
We see by his weight this man is not near a healthy range. Why is no one urging him to make a serious change and be healthy?
You obviously haven't read the thread as several people have suggested that he eat healthier....15 -
No one is thinking that. People are saying weight loss is about calories. You can become obese from eating healthy food if you overeat. I know many fat vegans.Biggiwig69 wrote: »Why is no one here urging this man to eat healthy foods? I just don't get it. We don't change when we don't change. If he keeps eating fast food his health, not just his weight, won't get any better. But hey it's ok to eat junk, IIFYM.. I guess.
We see by his weight this man is not near a healthy range. Why is no one urging him to make a serious change and be healthy?
People think, it’s good as long as he just eats 1500 calories of french fries and burgers and donuts.
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iheartmyyorkie wrote: »
No one is thinking that. People are saying weight loss is about calories. You can become obese from eating healthy food if you overeat. I know many fat vegans.Biggiwig69 wrote: »Why is no one here urging this man to eat healthy foods? I just don't get it. We don't change when we don't change. If he keeps eating fast food his health, not just his weight, won't get any better. But hey it's ok to eat junk, IIFYM.. I guess.
We see by his weight this man is not near a healthy range. Why is no one urging him to make a serious change and be healthy?
People think, it’s good as long as he just eats 1500 calories of french fries and burgers and donuts.
I don’t know any fat vegans but I believe you.2 -
iheartmyyorkie wrote: »
No one is thinking that. People are saying weight loss is about calories. You can become obese from eating healthy food if you overeat. I know many fat vegans.Biggiwig69 wrote: »Why is no one here urging this man to eat healthy foods? I just don't get it. We don't change when we don't change. If he keeps eating fast food his health, not just his weight, won't get any better. But hey it's ok to eat junk, IIFYM.. I guess.
We see by his weight this man is not near a healthy range. Why is no one urging him to make a serious change and be healthy?
People think, it’s good as long as he just eats 1500 calories of french fries and burgers and donuts.
And I was at my lowest weight back in 2014 when all I ate pretty much was fast food lol13 -
Go_Deskercise wrote: »iheartmyyorkie wrote: »
No one is thinking that. People are saying weight loss is about calories. You can become obese from eating healthy food if you overeat. I know many fat vegans.Biggiwig69 wrote: »Why is no one here urging this man to eat healthy foods? I just don't get it. We don't change when we don't change. If he keeps eating fast food his health, not just his weight, won't get any better. But hey it's ok to eat junk, IIFYM.. I guess.
We see by his weight this man is not near a healthy range. Why is no one urging him to make a serious change and be healthy?
People think, it’s good as long as he just eats 1500 calories of french fries and burgers and donuts.
And I was at my lowest weight back in 2014 when all I ate pretty much was fast food lol
Good for you then keep eating fast food again 😀2 -
Biggiwig69 wrote: »Go_Deskercise wrote: »iheartmyyorkie wrote: »
No one is thinking that. People are saying weight loss is about calories. You can become obese from eating healthy food if you overeat. I know many fat vegans.Biggiwig69 wrote: »Why is no one here urging this man to eat healthy foods? I just don't get it. We don't change when we don't change. If he keeps eating fast food his health, not just his weight, won't get any better. But hey it's ok to eat junk, IIFYM.. I guess.
We see by his weight this man is not near a healthy range. Why is no one urging him to make a serious change and be healthy?
People think, it’s good as long as he just eats 1500 calories of french fries and burgers and donuts.
And I was at my lowest weight back in 2014 when all I ate pretty much was fast food lol
Good for you then keep eating fast food again 😀
Not the point though .... I don't eat like that anymore. Just stating for the people commenting that he's not losing weight because of the fast food he's eating, that's incorrect. You can absolutely lose weight eating fast food, but I chose to start eating healthier because I realized that I could eat much more and be full.26 -
kpeterson539 wrote: »Why is no one here urging this man to eat healthy foods? I just don't get it. We don't change when we don't change. If he keeps eating fast food his health, not just his weight, won't get any better. But hey it's ok to eat junk, IIFYM. Why is no one urging him to be healthy?
Because the scale is not moving because of his calories and logging accuracy. It has nothing to do with french fries from McDonalds.
Ok, that was his original post but my question was why are we not urging him to be healthy?2 -
Biggiwig69 wrote: »Why is no one here urging this man to eat healthy foods? I just don't get it. We don't change when we don't change. If he keeps eating fast food his health, not just his weight, won't get any better. But hey it's ok to eat junk, IIFYM.. I guess.
We see by his weight this man is not near a healthy range. Why is no one urging him to make a serious change and be healthy?
People think, it’s good as long as he just eats 1500 calories of french fries and burgers and donuts.
Well you know, eating 1,500 calories of junk isn't going to prevent heart disease and diabetes...but what do we know!3 -
Why is no one here urging this man to eat healthy foods? I just don't get it. We don't change when we don't change. If he keeps eating fast food his health, not just his weight, won't get any better. But hey it's ok to eat junk, IIFYM.. I guess.
We see by his weight this man is not near a healthy range. Why is no one urging him to make a serious change and be healthy?
Because sometimes we need to meet people where they are at that point in their life. Some people do well making drastic changes all at once, yet others, like myself, are more successful with making incremental changes. I suppose a good question would be, what is more important to him? To lose some weight first, or to eat healthy first?
My own first goal was getting some weight off, then progressing to more healthy eating. My lunches and dinners were both fast food, then better fast food choices, then fast food lunch with frozen dinner, then frozen lunches and dinners, then one fresh meal a day, then two, to present day where I cook almost all my meals using healthy ingredients and am even progressing towards more organic choices. It has been a long, long process over the last 2 years. And I still enjoy the occasional fast food because I find it rather yummy.
Along the way I learned a lot about myself and have slowly developed the discipline and mental fortitude to continue on my own journey. That is my hope for this young man - that he finds his own path to being healthy.46 -
kpeterson539 wrote: »Why is no one here urging this man to eat healthy foods? I just don't get it. We don't change when we don't change. If he keeps eating fast food his health, not just his weight, won't get any better. But hey it's ok to eat junk, IIFYM. Why is no one urging him to be healthy?
Because the scale is not moving because of his calories and logging accuracy. It has nothing to do with french fries from McDonalds.
Ok, that was his original post but my question was why are we not urging him to be healthy?
If we hit him with, stop eating fast food, eat only baked chicken, veggies and rice. Limit sodas and desserts. What do you think that will do?
He'll look at that and think it's all impossible and he'll quit.
We need to address the most immediate problem--incorrect logging and eating more than he thinks.
Then, once that's under control, he can figure out the rest.
Some people (like myself and most of us here) need baby steps.53 -
kpeterson539 wrote: »Why is no one here urging this man to eat healthy foods? I just don't get it. We don't change when we don't change. If he keeps eating fast food his health, not just his weight, won't get any better. But hey it's ok to eat junk, IIFYM. Why is no one urging him to be healthy?
Because the scale is not moving because of his calories and logging accuracy. It has nothing to do with french fries from McDonalds.
Ok, that was his original post but my question was why are we not urging him to be healthy?
If we hit him with, stop eating fast food, eat only baked chicken, veggies and rice. Limit sodas and desserts. What do you think that will do?
He'll look at that and think it's all impossible and he'll quit.
We need to address the most immediate problem--incorrect logging and eating more than he thinks.
Then, once that's under control, he can figure out the rest.
Some people (like myself and most of us here) need baby steps.
slow and steady wins the race26 -
iheartmyyorkie wrote: »
No one is thinking that. People are saying weight loss is about calories. You can become obese from eating healthy food if you overeat. I know many fat vegans.Biggiwig69 wrote: »Why is no one here urging this man to eat healthy foods? I just don't get it. We don't change when we don't change. If he keeps eating fast food his health, not just his weight, won't get any better. But hey it's ok to eat junk, IIFYM.. I guess.
We see by his weight this man is not near a healthy range. Why is no one urging him to make a serious change and be healthy?
People think, it’s good as long as he just eats 1500 calories of french fries and burgers and donuts.
"vegan" doesn't mean "healthy". Prime example: Veganaise.8 -
If you are saying that what you are doing isn’t working, then change what you are doing.
1. Be consistent.
2. Be accurate
3. If you don’t lose for 2 months, cut your calories by 200/day.
4. Be consistent.
5. Be accurate.
6. In 2 months, you should lose about 3 pounds. If you have, you’re on the right track. If not, re-assess.9 -
kpeterson539 wrote: »Why is no one here urging this man to eat healthy foods? I just don't get it. We don't change when we don't change. If he keeps eating fast food his health, not just his weight, won't get any better. But hey it's ok to eat junk, IIFYM. Why is no one urging him to be healthy?
Because the scale is not moving because of his calories and logging accuracy. It has nothing to do with french fries from McDonalds.
Ok, that was his original post but my question was why are we not urging him to be healthy?
If we hit him with, stop eating fast food, eat only baked chicken, veggies and rice. Limit sodas and desserts. What do you think that will do?
He'll look at that and think it's all impossible and he'll quit.
We need to address the most immediate problem--incorrect logging and eating more than he thinks.
Then, once that's under control, he can figure out the rest.
Some people (like myself and most of us here) need baby steps.
I agree with you, I do. I just think we should say "Most likely it's inaccurate logging but it wouldn't hurt to add some veggies and healthier foods into your diet."5 -
Pamela_Sue wrote: »Why is no one here urging this man to eat healthy foods? I just don't get it. We don't change when we don't change. If he keeps eating fast food his health, not just his weight, won't get any better. But hey it's ok to eat junk, IIFYM.. I guess.
We see by his weight this man is not near a healthy range. Why is no one urging him to make a serious change and be healthy?
Because sometimes we need to meet people where they are at that point in their life. Some people do well making drastic changes all at once, yet others, like myself, are more successful with making incremental changes. I suppose a good question would be, what is more important to him? To lose some weight first, or to eat healthy first?
My own first goal was getting some weight off, then progressing to more healthy eating. My lunches and dinners were both fast food, then better fast food choices, then fast food lunch with frozen dinner, then frozen lunches and dinners, then one fresh meal a day, then two, to present day where I cook almost all my meals using healthy ingredients and am even progressing towards more organic choices. It has been a long, long process over the last 2 years. And I still enjoy the occasional fast food because I find it rather yummy.
Along the way I learned a lot about myself and have slowly developed the discipline and mental fortitude to continue on my own journey. That is my hope for this young man - that he finds his own path to being healthy.
I do agree that this man switching to a completely healthy diet would be drastic. But I don't know why we can't suggest eating only one serving of french fries and not two and let's not eat the sugary fried donuts.. Those are small changes that can make a big difference.5 -
Go_Deskercise wrote: »Why is no one here urging this man to eat healthy foods? I just don't get it. We don't change when we don't change. If he keeps eating fast food his health, not just his weight, won't get any better. But hey it's ok to eat junk, IIFYM.. I guess.
We see by his weight this man is not near a healthy range. Why is no one urging him to make a serious change and be healthy?
You obviously haven't read the thread as several people have suggested that he eat healthier....
@Pamela_Sue is the only person who tried to help this man come away from the fast food.2 -
I just want to throw out there that OP has had several different user names (search @geminigarcia199017 or @geminigemz90) and has posted basically the same questions over and over, receiving good information about how to start losing weight. They are obviously either a troll or not ready to do what needs to be done in order to lose the weight. Sorry to be harsh OP but you are not going to receive different answers by asking the same question to the same group of people.28
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Go_Deskercise wrote: »Why is no one here urging this man to eat healthy foods? I just don't get it. We don't change when we don't change. If he keeps eating fast food his health, not just his weight, won't get any better. But hey it's ok to eat junk, IIFYM.. I guess.
We see by his weight this man is not near a healthy range. Why is no one urging him to make a serious change and be healthy?
You obviously haven't read the thread as several people have suggested that he eat healthier....
@Pamela_Sue is the only person who tried to help this man come away from the fast food.
No she is not (which is why your post has been 'disagreed') .... If you need help reading, I can come sit with you.13 -
Go_Deskercise wrote: »Go_Deskercise wrote: »Why is no one here urging this man to eat healthy foods? I just don't get it. We don't change when we don't change. If he keeps eating fast food his health, not just his weight, won't get any better. But hey it's ok to eat junk, IIFYM.. I guess.
We see by his weight this man is not near a healthy range. Why is no one urging him to make a serious change and be healthy?
You obviously haven't read the thread as several people have suggested that he eat healthier....
@Pamela_Sue is the only person who tried to help this man come away from the fast food.
No she is not (which is why your post has been 'disagreed') .... If you need help reading, I can come sit with you.
Yeah, I don't think that's right. Four people disagreed with me cause, they do. I went though and reread everything. Before I asked why we're not urging him to eat healthier, she's the only one. Well, other than myself and -that- post sure did get a lots of "disagrees".
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If you believe that your metabolism is damaged, I suggest that you measure it. You can either use the DIY method or use other methods such as doubly labelled water or measuring exhaled carbon dioxide. Doubly labelled water is expensive because it involves obtaining water with isotopes which aren't normally found in water. It also involves the use of a mass spectrometer at least twice. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doubly_labeled_water
The DIY method is pretty simple. Weigh yourself daily, or twice daily for a faster process. It took me 17 days using one weighing a day. Use food which can be weighed easily. Measure your daily intake, and your weight the following day. Graph intake vs daily change. For example, on Monday you weigh 280 pounds. You eat 2000 calories. On Tuesday you weigh 279.5 pounds. You enter 2000 and -0.5 into a spreadsheet. Then you create a scatter graph using the spreadsheet. Using Microsoft Excel, you create a linear trend line. Where the trend line crosses the zero daily weight change is your metabolic rate. It sounds complex but you have at least 2 weeks how to figure it out.1
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