Weight loss pills
meaganraney1138
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Hello everyone. My name is Meagan I am 5’1” and 177lbs. I have been losing weight gaining, losing gaining on and off for a while now. I have been working out and watching what I eat. I would like to boost my wieghtloss and engery. Is there any good diet pills that y’all know of that will help?
-please no negativity
Thanks,
Meagan R
-please no negativity
Thanks,
Meagan R
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meaganraney1138 wrote: »Hello everyone. My name is Meagan I am 5’1” and 177lbs. I have been losing weight gaining, losing gaining on and off for a while now. I have been working out and watching what I eat. I would like to boost my wieghtloss and engery. Is there any good diet pills that y’all know of that will help?
-please no negativity
Thanks,
Meagan R
OTC Weight loss pills are basically overpriced caffeine (which can suppress appetite and increase NEAT), some work in the short term, but do nothing that a cup of coffee wouldn't do for a fraction of the price, others are mild laxatives, and again do little in the long run except shave some water weight off, supposing you want to lose fat, losing water weight does nothing to help you.
In the long term they don't help (speaking from experience - used many in my 20's) companies just take advantage of how desperately everyone want fast results.
Have you considered a slower rate of loss with accurate logging. Lower energy is usually a byproduct of trying to lose weight at too aggressive a rate and yo-yoing can also be part of this same problem.
A food scale is a far better investment.15 -
If there were magic weight loss pills, there would be no fat people. 🤷🏼♀️25
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No.
Eating less calories than your body burns is the only way weight is lost. Weigh, measure, and log everything you eat and drink accurately and move more. If you’re at a calorie deficit, you’ll lose weight. I’m not being negative, pills are not necessary.9 -
There are two types of weightloss pills.
1. Placebos that do absolutely nothing. These are the better kind
2. Pills containing caffeine or speed that can burn a very small number of calories (like 50 a day )but can also have a very negative effect on your heart health and brain health. These are a really bad idea
Tldr : skip pills eat less then burn12 -
Fen-phen worked great for me!
However, Fenfluramine ... was shown to cause potentially fatal pulmonary hypertension and heart valve problems, which eventually led to its withdrawal and legal damages of over $13 billion.
Phentermine also has risks of heart damage.
I have heart palpitations which may or may not be related to my use of fen-phen in the 90's
Basically, if diet pills work, they are not safe; if they are safe, they don't work.19 -
missysippy930 wrote: »I’m not being negative, pills are not necessary.There are two types of weightloss pills.
1. Placebos that do absolutely nothing. These are the better kind
2. Pills containing caffeine or speed that can burn a very small number of calories (like 50 a day )but can also have a very negative effect on your heart health and brain health. These are a really bad idea
You guys both sound pretty convinced, but I'm not so sure you're right. Here's a TED talk by a notable endocrinologist where he talks about his practical weight-loss results testing drugs that control insulin. I don't want to misrepresent his argument as being in support of weight-loss pills, but either way... we're looking at practical results from notable a professional. You can find peer-reviewed studies on caffeine and other drugs, as well, and the research is generally not going to fit your description.
If someone is struggling with confusion about drugs, it makes sense to refer them to a doctor. If you're willing to instead listen to everyone that has an opinion on weight-loss (even people that were personally successful), you're going to get a million conflicting views.4 -
michaelwrightkindle wrote: »missysippy930 wrote: »I’m not being negative, pills are not necessary.There are two types of weightloss pills.
1. Placebos that do absolutely nothing. These are the better kind
2. Pills containing caffeine or speed that can burn a very small number of calories (like 50 a day )but can also have a very negative effect on your heart health and brain health. These are a really bad idea
You guys both sound pretty convinced, but I'm not so sure you're right. Here's a TED talk by a notable endocrinologist where he talks about his practical weight-loss results testing drugs that control insulin. I don't want to misrepresent his argument as being in support of weight-loss pills, but either way... we're looking at practical results from notable a professional. You can find peer-reviewed studies on caffeine and other drugs, as well, and the research is generally not going to fit your description.
If someone is struggling with confusion about drugs, it makes sense to refer them to a doctor. If you're willing to instead listen to everyone that has an opinion on weight-loss (even people that were personally successful), you're going to get a million conflicting views.
Dr. Robert Lustig is a pediatric endocrinologist. He specializes in children. Children's health is so different from adults that they could almost be another species.
On top of that, he's one of the major proponents of the "sugar is as addictive and harmful as cocaine" group, despite the many, MANY studies to the contrary.
Even doctors can be full of it. Vet your sources of info appropriately.28 -
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Chef_Barbell wrote: »If there were magic weight loss pills, there would be no fat people. 🤷🏼♀️
^This all day long....stay away from these pills is my advice and drink a coffee.11 -
michaelwrightkindle wrote: »missysippy930 wrote: »I’m not being negative, pills are not necessary.There are two types of weightloss pills.
1. Placebos that do absolutely nothing. These are the better kind
2. Pills containing caffeine or speed that can burn a very small number of calories (like 50 a day )but can also have a very negative effect on your heart health and brain health. These are a really bad idea
You guys both sound pretty convinced, but I'm not so sure you're right. Here's a TED talk by a notable endocrinologist where he talks about his practical weight-loss results testing drugs that control insulin. I don't want to misrepresent his argument as being in support of weight-loss pills, but either way... we're looking at practical results from notable a professional. You can find peer-reviewed studies on caffeine and other drugs, as well, and the research is generally not going to fit your description.
If someone is struggling with confusion about drugs, it makes sense to refer them to a doctor. If you're willing to instead listen to everyone that has an opinion on weight-loss (even people that were personally successful), you're going to get a million conflicting views.
If a healthy person is trying to manipulate their insulin with pharmaceuticals so they can eat more food that is a bad idea. If that person is in a calorie deficit it makes no difference what their insulin is doing so no drug is needed.19 -
Basically, OTC weight loss pills and diet teas do not work in the long run. They are either caffeine or laxatives, or both.
Prescription weight loss pills can be more effective, but carry side effects that can endanger other aspects of a person's heath to where doctors usually only prescribe them when a patient's weight is seriously compromising their health.
You are better off logging your food for a few weeks (weigh all solids and semi solids and measure all liquids that have calories) and seeing where your calories come from. Losing weight could be as simple as a couple of substitutes of or reductions in what you are normally eating and drinking. Drink black coffee instead of a high calorie coffee drink, snack on popcorn instead of chips, have a wine or beer 3 times a week instead of every night, eat fast food once a week instead of 3 times, etc. It is much easier to lose weight and keep it off if you continue to eat what you enjoy, just modify it to reduce calories.6 -
Under certain circumstances, metformin (a diabetes drug) can be helpful for weight loss in non-diabetics. This has been demonstrated in well done studies (double blind, control groups).
Unfortunately, because this is an older, generic, inexpensive drug, not a lot of studies have been done. Money often drives research.
The studies that have shown good results are for people who are insulin sensitive, insulin resistant, and/or taking antipsychotics.
Of course these people will also lose weight simply using CICO (just like everyone), but metformin makes it a little easier, probably by reducing appetite.
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bold_rabbit wrote: »Under certain circumstances, metformin (a diabetes drug) can be helpful for weight loss in non-diabetics. This has been demonstrated in well done studies (double blind, control groups).
Unfortunately, because this is an older, generic, inexpensive drug, not a lot of studies have been done. Money often drives research.
The studies that have shown good results are for people who are insulin sensitive, insulin resistant, and/or taking antipsychotics.
Of course these people will also lose weight simply using CICO (just like everyone), but metformin makes it a little easier, probably by reducing appetite.
But there is no evidence in otherwise healthy people, right? Metformin is somewhat commonly used as a PCOS treatment, in part because of it's effect on insulin resistance. Insulin resistance can cause a decrease in BMR, so successfully treating that may help increase the calories burned for someone with insulin resistance. But I imagine a bigger benefit is that when symptoms are controlled, it makes following a calorie controlled diet easier. My wife has PCOS and her challenge with losing weight has not been with not being able to lose weight in a calorie deficit, but rather sticking with a plan consistently when the symptoms make her so exhausted and miserable all the time.
Metformin, like other drugs, has side effects, and I certainly would not encourage anyone to take it with a goal of it being a weight loss pill. If they have a condition that could be potentially treated by Metformin, then I suggest they talk to their doctor about it. But I certainly wouldn't think it'd be a weightloss pill.6 -
You can talk to your doctor about drugs that may help reduce your appetite. However, the responsibility is still on you to make good choices - there's no drug that will magically help with the weight loss, so if you're anything like me and you eat for reasons other than hunger, and eat too many calorie-dense foods, it's not going to help.6
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bold_rabbit wrote: »Under certain circumstances, metformin (a diabetes drug) can be helpful for weight loss in non-diabetics. This has been demonstrated in well done studies (double blind, control groups).
Unfortunately, because this is an older, generic, inexpensive drug, not a lot of studies have been done. Money often drives research.
The studies that have shown good results are for people who are insulin sensitive, insulin resistant, and/or taking antipsychotics.
Of course these people will also lose weight simply using CICO (just like everyone), but metformin makes it a little easier, probably by reducing appetite.
And of course those people are staring down the barrel of possible negative side effects too. If you have exhausted all attempts to control your hunger naturally and you are considering a drug you are in the neighborhood of weight loss surgery.3 -
There is never going to be a safe medicine to boost this without side effects. The processes involved are directly connected to your most important systems.5
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Chef_Barbell wrote: »If there were magic weight loss pills, there would be no fat people. 🤷🏼♀️
I’m going to reiterate this very spot on point. And a very real downside is how these can have serious health consequences for some people.4 -
I took weight loss pills from doctor they were called redutcil they now been taken off in UK and I think USA as they gave people heart problems stokes high blood pressure , yes in 6 weeks I lost a stone but also ended up with high blood pressure because of those tablets , so I’d say don’t take any nothing is a quick fix4
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If you look at the fine print of any "diet pill" weather its a prescription or OTC they all say "results not typical" and "in conjunction with diet and exercise". Most of these pills curb your hunger, but do nothing really in the form of weight reduction by themselves. And at some point you have to come off of the pills because they are not meant for long term use so what do you think will happen then if you haven't improved your way of eating? Better to stick to a healthy calorie deficit and move more. There are no negative side effects from doing that
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If they are legal, they don't work and if they work, they are not legal.5
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michaelwrightkindle wrote: »missysippy930 wrote: »I’m not being negative, pills are not necessary.There are two types of weightloss pills.
1. Placebos that do absolutely nothing. These are the better kind
2. Pills containing caffeine or speed that can burn a very small number of calories (like 50 a day )but can also have a very negative effect on your heart health and brain health. These are a really bad idea
You guys both sound pretty convinced, but I'm not so sure you're right. Here's a TED talk by a notable endocrinologist where he talks about his practical weight-loss results testing drugs that control insulin. I don't want to misrepresent his argument as being in support of weight-loss pills, but either way... we're looking at practical results from notable a professional. You can find peer-reviewed studies on caffeine and other drugs, as well, and the research is generally not going to fit your description.
If someone is struggling with confusion about drugs, it makes sense to refer them to a doctor. If you're willing to instead listen to everyone that has an opinion on weight-loss (even people that were personally successful), you're going to get a million conflicting views.
The problem with this is that controlling insulin is under the premise that eating is physiological. IMO it's usually psychological too. Just because your body doesn't have the same insulin reaction doesn't mean you will stop trying to achieve it (with food). I think the only pill that could make it "easier" for me to lose weight would be one that let me eat whatever I want until I'm bursting. Even just feeling full would not be enough.1 -
bold_rabbit wrote: »Under certain circumstances, metformin (a diabetes drug) can be helpful for weight loss in non-diabetics. This has been demonstrated in well done studies (double blind, control groups).
Unfortunately, because this is an older, generic, inexpensive drug, not a lot of studies have been done. Money often drives research.
The studies that have shown good results are for people who are insulin sensitive, insulin resistant, and/or taking antipsychotics.
Of course these people will also lose weight simply using CICO (just like everyone), but metformin makes it a little easier, probably by reducing appetite.
The most commonly reported side effect is diarrhea (12-53% of patients), and for some uncontrolled. Doesn't sound like this would be a desirable option.0 -
bold_rabbit wrote: »Under certain circumstances, metformin (a diabetes drug) can be helpful for weight loss in non-diabetics. This has been demonstrated in well done studies (double blind, control groups).
Unfortunately, because this is an older, generic, inexpensive drug, not a lot of studies have been done. Money often drives research.
The studies that have shown good results are for people who are insulin sensitive, insulin resistant, and/or taking antipsychotics.
Of course these people will also lose weight simply using CICO (just like everyone), but metformin makes it a little easier, probably by reducing appetite.
But there is no evidence in otherwise healthy people, right? Metformin is somewhat commonly used as a PCOS treatment, in part because of it's effect on insulin resistance. Insulin resistance can cause a decrease in BMR, so successfully treating that may help increase the calories burned for someone with insulin resistance. But I imagine a bigger benefit is that when symptoms are controlled, it makes following a calorie controlled diet easier. My wife has PCOS and her challenge with losing weight has not been with not being able to lose weight in a calorie deficit, but rather sticking with a plan consistently when the symptoms make her so exhausted and miserable all the time.
Metformin, like other drugs, has side effects, and I certainly would not encourage anyone to take it with a goal of it being a weight loss pill. If they have a condition that could be potentially treated by Metformin, then I suggest they talk to their doctor about it. But I certainly wouldn't think it'd be a weightloss pill.
Well the OP didn't give us their medical background. My comment specifically says "insulin sensitive, insulin resistant, and/or taking antipsychotics". That is certainly not a recommendation for anyone or everyone.
Since metformin cannot be purchased OTC, speaking with one's doctor would be required.
I was not endorsing the drug, simply giving an example of one medication that has shown in high quality clinical studies to be an effective aid in weight loss for certain people.
Note: I have a loved one who takes antipsychotics and uses CICO via MFP to lose weight. No metformin or any other weight loss drugs or surgeries.4
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