Don’t compare yourself to other runners
bayhans
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Hi all, I’m not sure there’s a specific answer to this since it’s kind of personal, but I’m feeling quite discouraged and could use some encouragement.
I know I shouldn’t compare myself to other runners (or others just in general), but when your self confidence is lacking, it’s much easier said than done. How do you all ignore others’ accomplishments and focus just on your own? How do you see someone start to run months after you’ve been consistently training and then fly by your PR like it’s nothing and not feel like you’re a terrible runner? When you hear someone very close to you talk about how awful their pace is (and quite vehemently calling it awful) and know that their awful pace is your out-of-reach dream pace, how do you not feel like a failure? My best isn’t even as good as their awful.
I put in so much effort and see so little improvement, and it’s discouraging. I know I should focus solely on my own journey, but sometimes I find that very difficult. How do you all do it?
I know I shouldn’t compare myself to other runners (or others just in general), but when your self confidence is lacking, it’s much easier said than done. How do you all ignore others’ accomplishments and focus just on your own? How do you see someone start to run months after you’ve been consistently training and then fly by your PR like it’s nothing and not feel like you’re a terrible runner? When you hear someone very close to you talk about how awful their pace is (and quite vehemently calling it awful) and know that their awful pace is your out-of-reach dream pace, how do you not feel like a failure? My best isn’t even as good as their awful.
I put in so much effort and see so little improvement, and it’s discouraging. I know I should focus solely on my own journey, but sometimes I find that very difficult. How do you all do it?
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I just focus on me. The only person I am competing with is me. (And I do, fearsomely - my weapon of choice is Strava, but I deliberately have ZERO other people linked on the account).
I am at the stage in life where I can congratulate others on their successes but not feel it reflects on me. Maybe that’s just a base-psychology thing, IDK.
My main sport is skiing. I am never going to get FIS points racing or get a level 4 Instructor qualification. Does that mean I feel bad when I watch races or friends pass level 3 or 4 modules? Hell, no. I’m a bit awed, but I’m happy for them. I have people on here who are marathoners, and I can be happy for their improvements. It doesn’t negate my wobbly 5k pr, or the fact that I tired to do a 10k and had to walk a bit of it. I still made massive gains.
The only other person I might vaguely be competitive with is my husband. I would like to be close to his speed so we can run together. In reality, we get to a certain point and I say “just go, I’ll meet you at home”.
TL;DR You just have to find a mindset where you do “you” and choose not to stress others’ performances6 -
Some people are naturally gifted at certain things. My wife is a naturally gifted distance runner and gifted endurance athlete in general. I've always been a pretty lousy distance runner...even in the military where we ran all the time, I was always at the back of the pack. I was, however, a gifted sprinter and jumper and started running club track and field in the 3rd grade...I was briefly ranked 3rd in the state in the 100m my junior year in high school.
Moral of the story, people can be gifted and good at different things, so there's no use comparing yourself. My wife would blow my doors off on a 5K...and that's ok. I'm good at other things. I can ride circles around her on the mountain bike trails.
Comparison is the thief of joy.5 -
Strava is definitely a great tool for me to see how my running is progressing and is really helpful. It tells me how my speed is trending when repeating routes. I try to remember that everyone has different talents. At 5’1” I have to take a lot more steps to keep up with someone taller. There will always be someone faster and slower. Finding ways to encourage others also helps me keep things in perspective. Everyone needs a kind word often. I also recently started using the Believe journal to track my goals and training.3
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The real question is: How do I feel great about others accomplishments? If I can feel good about others accomplishments, then I can feel good about my own! I have to want good for everyone, not just myself! In that frame of mind, everyone wins!11
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mikeschratz wrote: »The real question is: How do I feel great about others accomplishments? If I can feel good about others accomplishments, then I can feel good about my own! I have to want good for everyone, not just myself! In that frame of mind, everyone wins!
I like this a lot. Thank you 😊
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I get a lot of great stuff from the Not Your Average Runner podcast. It's billed for 'mid-life, plus size' women, so not even my exact demographic, but the host can't be beat for her ability to cut right through mental *kitten* and put motivation, accomplishments, and running insights into perspective!3
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I unplug from all those outlets that are bringing me down. Instagram, FB, whatever.2
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I don't race, I run by myself and I really am happy that I just got out there and did it. Though I'm still getting back into it and my running pace is the pace of a tall person's fast walk, I count it as running. I focus on how good I feel after I am done and how much stronger/better I feel about myself. It's the only thing that makes me feel good about myself even if I can only jog about 5 minutes straight right now.2
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mikeschratz wrote: »The real question is: How do I feel great about others accomplishments? If I can feel good about others accomplishments, then I can feel good about my own! I have to want good for everyone, not just myself! In that frame of mind, everyone wins!
This.
This is exactly what I was wanting to say, but took half a page to not say!
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I think it's important to keep things in perspective. I'm a middle of the pack runner... I can train hard and be a slightly faster middle of the pack runner, but that's my ceiling - and I'm OK with that.
For me, the perspective comes in two varieties; 1) Am I seeing progress (any progress) on the areas I'm focusing on? Is a challenging course becoming easier? Are my splits getting faster? etc. and 2) to the extent I compare myself to what other people are doing, I broaden that number to include the people that don't run.
Just by lacing up your runners and getting outside, you're doing better than the vast majority.2 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »Some people are naturally gifted at certain things. My wife is a naturally gifted distance runner and gifted endurance athlete in general. I've always been a pretty lousy distance runner...even in the military where we ran all the time, I was always at the back of the pack. I was, however, a gifted sprinter and jumper and started running club track and field in the 3rd grade...I was briefly ranked 3rd in the state in the 100m my junior year in high school.
Moral of the story, people can be gifted and good at different things, so there's no use comparing yourself. My wife would blow my doors off on a 5K...and that's ok. I'm good at other things. I can ride circles around her on the mountain bike trails.
Comparison is the thief of joy.
I bet there is something you are good at that they are not, that they would be discouraged by if they heard you talking about.
It is hard, but try to just track your personal records. Maybe keep a log so you can reflect back on the progress you have made, and be kind to yourself. We do this at our gym, with daily challenges each week. Last week i was standing next to a girl waiting to log my 2-min push-up total for the day. I was happy that I had beat my previous week's total by 2. Then she wrote down a number that was 30 higher than my new record. It stung, especially as she was saying she should have done better still. But then I took a breath and reminded myself to just focus on my records. I'll get there one day, no rush to meet the goal tomorrow
Also remember you have different lives, different challenges and accomplishments that have brought you to today.1 -
One thing to always keep in mind- less than 23% of Americans get enough exercise!! So, although there may be some better runners than you, you’re likely a better runner than 77% of the population right there!!!
I bought my wife a shirt that says “stronger than yesterday” because she often compares the amount of weight she lifts v others in our gym. You should think “faster (or further or whatever) than last month.”3 -
glennagael wrote: »I get a lot of great stuff from the Not Your Average Runner podcast. It's billed for 'mid-life, plus size' women, so not even my exact demographic, but the host can't be beat for her ability to cut right through mental *kitten* and put motivation, accomplishments, and running insights into perspective!
Just listened to the most recent podcast and cried through it, in a good way. Thank you for the recommendation!! She said so many things about thinking like a runner that I desperately needed to hear.2 -
My running, isn't even running yet. I try not to think about how other people are doing but it's difficult. I try and focus on how I feel and not how much I wish I was better/faster.3
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glennagael wrote: »I get a lot of great stuff from the Not Your Average Runner podcast. It's billed for 'mid-life, plus size' women, so not even my exact demographic, but the host can't be beat for her ability to cut right through mental *kitten* and put motivation, accomplishments, and running insights into perspective!
Just listened to the most recent podcast and cried through it, in a good way. Thank you for the recommendation!! She said so many things about thinking like a runner that I desperately needed to hear.
Oh great!! I'm on my second round listening from her first one, really can't get enough! You've got this, homie.
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Just to be contrary, I started landing age group podium spots after I started comparing myself to others more earnestly. I realized, "Those guys are my age and yet they're so much faster than I am. I can train harder and catch up to them."
Having said that, I don't expect to outdo the best of these guys. They have less muscle than I do, so they weigh less, and they're probably more genetically gifted when it comes to speed. However, comparing myself to some of them (within reason) did help me aim higher and make more progress.4 -
At 63, I'm not likely to ever be a fast runner. I can, however, compete with others in my AG and do fairly well. I've seen that by working hard, I continue to improve, even if it's only by a few seconds per mile. For my runs and races, I look at how long I can hold pace, not whether my pace is fast. I look at how I feel at the end, not whether I won an award. Looking at my running log, I am happy when my yearly mileage is more than it was the previous year or when I do more quality runs during a training cycle than I have done in the past. I look at whether I was willing to challenge myself, either in training or racing, or whether I chose to play it safe and do what felt comfortable.
Focus on the things you can control. You can't change your genes or suddenly gain years of experience, but you can work on your day to day training and take pride in that. How much effort are you willing to put into your running? How much time? If you run for fitness or weight loss, being fast doesn't matter. If you enjoy doing races, are you willing to push your limits or not?2 -
The first miles I ran were at about a 17 min/mile pace. I was morbidly obese (well-I was slightly under morbidly obese by the time I ran a mile). I started by running for 5 seconds at a time, then walking for 5 minutes or so before I had recovered enough to run 5 seconds again. And then I did it again another day. Then another. And another.
I did not start where other people start. My path is not the same. I work my *kitten* off to progress - even if my progress still puts me nowhere near where others might start. It doesn’t matter. I am my own woman and I am working on my own goals. like most everyone else out there, I am working to continually improve. I can’t wish myself to be better than I am. I can only keep working to make it happen. I may be “better” than someone else eventually-I may not. But I can and will always be working to be a better me.
In 10 days, I am running my second marathon. I won’t be first. I might be last (probably not but anything is possible). But I will run all 26.2 miles. If that’s not serious progress over a 5 second running interval-well, I might just toss in the towel now.
I don’t have any Garmin contacts. I don’t want any Garmin contacts. That’s my journey. It is a forever journey that I am walking in my own way, in my own time, with my own focus.
Just as I don’t worry about someone else’s weight loss details-I don’t worry about anyone else’s pace. I worry about mine. I can only control my own behaviors.
I respect everyone’s goals and individual pursuits. I have many runner friends who are much faster than I am. I support them and sympathize when their races are not as fast as they hoped-even if their pace is faster than I will probably ever go. We are all on our own journey.
Marathons are like mullets-the party is in the back.
I’ve also gotten beaten by a guy dressed as Jesus (in Birkenstock’s), a dude running in penny loafers and a dress shirt, and I nearly killed myself in a 5k to pass a dude wearing angel wings, a multi-colored flower tutu and a turkey for a hat (that felt personal...)
Anyway-it really doesn’t matter what anyone else is doing. You train; you get better, you look back at your yesterday’s and you say what an incredible human you are because you’ve worked this hard and come this far-and think of the possibilities of how much farther you can go. And every day multi see you’ve gone a little bit further. And someday you’ll realize you’ve already gone further than you thought you could go. And you really stop giving a *kitten* about what anyone else is doing.
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Find others that are your speed (or close to it). Run with them. Have fun. Challenge yourself, not others.
I often chase faster runners 'because' they're faster. I've been doing this for years. Sometimes I catch up and sometimes they are just too gifted compared to me. But at the end of the day I gave it my best shot and no doubt improved my own fitness because of it. This is a win.
For 2 years I have been helping a runner get faster. At first he wasn't even close to me. Now he can beat me. I am super proud that I had a small part in this. We're still friends and I still help him (he's faster than he thinks). I get satisfaction at helping others beat me. Weird, I know. However, one of these days when the star align just right I will smoke him in a race .
You be you. Good luck. And HAVE FUN!2 -
The beauty of the running community is that it is a community. Sign up for a race and you’ll see. The commraderie, kindness, love... it’s amazing.
A runner is a runner is a runner. Comparison can be ok. It can push you to get uncomfortable and pull you through the hardest intervals. But we are all on our own journeys.2 -
You should ALWAYS compare yourself to other runners. Just make sure to only include those who are worse than you in your comparisons.2
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kathrynhoward84 wrote: »I just focus on me. The only person I am competing with is me. (And I do, fearsomely - my weapon of choice is Strava, but I deliberately have ZERO other people linked on the account).
I am at the stage in life where I can congratulate others on their successes but not feel it reflects on me. Maybe that’s just a base-psychology thing, IDK.
My main sport is skiing. I am never going to get FIS points racing or get a level 4 Instructor qualification. Does that mean I feel bad when I watch races or friends pass level 3 or 4 modules? Hell, no. I’m a bit awed, but I’m happy for them. I have people on here who are marathoners, and I can be happy for their improvements. It doesn’t negate my wobbly 5k pr, or the fact that I tired to do a 10k and had to walk a bit of it. I still made massive gains.
The only other person I might vaguely be competitive with is my husband. I would like to be close to his speed so we can run together. In reality, we get to a certain point and I say “just go, I’ll meet you at home”.
TL;DR You just have to find a mindset where you do “you” and choose not to stress others’ performances
I really relate to this, I used to ski FIS Europa Cup 25 years ago until I injured myself quite badly in a downhill race which took over a year to recover from. Never skied again and because my fitness was never the same and I couldn't stop comparing myself to how I was before (Super fit) I gave up.
Nearing 50 have me a jolt to run again and I completely agree with Kathryn, competing against myself was the only way to go. 6 months ago I could only run /walk 1.5 miles in one go, but with the help of Map My Run (with zero people linked) i'm now doing 5k every day. I used to try and beat my PB every time I went out. It's not the best thing to do, so following a set plan helped take my focus off that to a balanced routine. THAT'S the accomplishment for me. Sticking to the routine and doing perhaps a PB free run every 10 days or so.
So, be happy for everyone's targets (which times and distance is only relevant to them) and compete against yourself. When your run could of been better use it to motivate yourself next time and when you have a good run (no matter how small) congratulate yourself.
Don't beat yourself up and well done for being out there getting fit.1 -
RunnerGirl238 wrote: »The beauty of the running community is that it is a community. Sign up for a race and you’ll see. The commraderie, kindness, love... it’s amazing.
A runner is a runner is a runner. Comparison can be ok. It can push you to get uncomfortable and pull you through the hardest intervals. But we are all on our own journeys.
This! And if you have goals that others in your running community are meeting and you're not, the more experienced runners are (in my experience) always willing to share tips and encourage you.0 -
@ianwhite5555 that is an amazing achievement to have on your CV. Sorry to hear it ended in injury.0
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kathrynhoward84 wrote: »@ianwhite5555 that is an amazing achievement to have on your CV. Sorry to hear it ended in injury.
Thanks Kathryn, even though it ended with a horrendous tib fib break with so much metal work, looking back I was so blessed to even have the chance. Last week was Kitzbuhel and got all nostalgic. I hope you're enjoying schussing down the slopes.1 -
If I compared myself to other runners / triathletes I probably would have quit years ago. No two runners are the same (unless you're identical twins). People respond to training stimulus differently, that person who may be much faster than you may also be spending a lot more time training than you. It's a matter of working with what we've got and taking pride in how far we've come.
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Before I was a runner, none of my friends were either. Now that I *am* a runner, many of my friends are as well, and they are ALL faster than me. I can't compare myself to my faster running friends any more than I can compare myself to my friends who don't run. I can only compare myself to myself.3
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