Carnivore Diet

snickerscharlie wrote: »

miranda72089 wrote: »

So I was watching Joe Rogan today and he said he's on the carnivore diet and it's supposed to help inflammation. I'm currently on an anti-inflammatory pill bc I have bulging disc and the inflammation causes life to be unbearable sometimes without reducing it. I was just curious if anyone has tried this and had any results with it? Of course I'm interested in the weight loss part of it as well.

This would be something to discuss with your doctor. Neither Joe Rogan nor anyone here knows your specific medical condition better.

And weight loss is 100% about the amount of calories you consume on a daily basis. You can gain weight on *any* diet.

This.

I'm also amused by the disagree it received. Did the person disagree (but not have the guts to say so) about whether one's doctor would be a better person to take advise from as to whether going carnivore would help with a bulging disk condition than Joe Rogan? (Perhaps a shy Joe Rogan superfan?)

Or about the fact that neither Joe Rogan nor anyone here is really qualified to speak to OP's medical condition?

Or about the fact that weight loss is about calories?

Or perhaps about the fact that you can gain weight on any diet?

Anyway, from what I've read, red meat is usually on the "more inflammatory" list and fruit and veg on the "anti-inflammatory" list, so I have enormous skepticism that going carnivore would be a miracle diet for "inflammation," and I'm also not at all convinced that an "anti-inflammatory diet" (one of the current buzzwords that are usually not used in a very responsible manner) would help with a medical condition like the one you have (but I'm not qualified to speak to OP's medical condition, as noted above, so would ask the doctor or perhaps talk to an RD about whether there is any chance that dietary change could help).

As psulemon says, usually weight loss and (if the diet needs improvement) a better overall diet (I personally would consider that to mean one with more veg and at least some fruit, not no plants at all) tend to help with a variety of things if one actually is overweight or obese. But again that isn't the case for all conditions, so I'm not saying it would be here.

McBurnsalot wrote: »

I would imagine that the carnivore diet is more likely to exclude foods that cause inflammation. Supposedly certain foods like processed and high sugar foods can cause inflammation as well as gluten.

Except that red meat and processed meat are typically foods that cause more inflammation, and vegetables, nuts (except for those with allergies), and fruit are anti-inflammatory foods.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/foods-that-fight-inflammation

So no, not really.

Of course, cutting down on fried foods and refined flour and sugar are not bad ideas if one is trying to eat a less inflammatory diet, but the idea that that means eating a diet without any non animal products (and in particular no veg, fruit, or nuts/seeds) is pretty extreme and I think counterproduct.

I saw something amusing on Twitter this morning, shared by Layne Norton -- "how long until we have a group of people insisting that smoking is the way to improve health, and it's just being hidden by the medical industry?" That's IMO analogous to the current bizarre popularity of claims that vegetables are bad for us and the real health food diet is cutting them out!

lemurcat2 wrote: »

McBurnsalot wrote: »

I would imagine that the carnivore diet is more likely to exclude foods that cause inflammation. Supposedly certain foods like processed and high sugar foods can cause inflammation as well as gluten.

Except that red meat and processed meat are typically foods that cause more inflammation, and vegetables, nuts (except for those with allergies), and fruit are anti-inflammatory foods.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/foods-that-fight-inflammation

So no, not really.

Of course, cutting down on fried foods and refined flour and sugar are not bad ideas if one is trying to eat a less inflammatory diet, but the idea that that means eating a diet without any non animal products (and in particular no veg, fruit, or nuts/seeds) is pretty extreme and I think counterproduct.

I saw something amusing on Twitter this morning, shared by Layne Norton -- "how long until we have a group of people insisting that smoking is the way to improve health, and it's just being hidden by the medical industry?" That's IMO analogous to the current bizarre popularity of claims that vegetables are bad for us and the real health food diet is cutting them out!

Well there is a very popular radio host, who while not going that far, has consistently maintained that the risk of smoking is severely overstated and manipulated by the medical industry, WHO, etc. He also coincidentally just announced he had been diagnosed with advanced lung cancer.