Importance of fat loss
josieturner06
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When you lose fat, it’s more then just losing inches! You are significantly reducing health risks! 
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What are the sources for these stats, some of them seem spurious particularly the depression one.12
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And 73.6% of all statistics are made up on the spot!15
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So...did you want to discuss or just teach us?3
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Sauce?0
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@josieturner06 Unless you created that pictograph, it's unethical to repost it without giving credit to the source. It also helps readers determine how seriously to take it.13
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Huh. If those numbers were real, I would be some sort of medical oddity. 😁1
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Wow, this infographic is all over the internet, with multiple variations. It's a Pinterest favorite. It looks like various contributors have added things and changed things - note that the original doesn't have the "Gout - 77% resolved", for example.
Here's the original. It's from "Risks and benefits of bariatric surgery: Current evidence". Brethauer, Chand, and Schauer, Cleveland Clinic Journal of Medicine, 73, 2006, pp 1-15.
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/7d7b/db3d7afa9071b6d5ce0652caa7aa0b8660c6.pdf?_ga=2.86331736.1712735926.1582668681-232217838.1582668681
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Someone disagrees that it's unethical to steal someone else's work
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lemongirlbc wrote: »And 73.6% of all statistics are made up on the spot!
And statistics get 82.43% more believable if they contain 2 decimal places
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Wow, this infographic is all over the internet, with multiple variations. It's a Pinterest favorite. It looks like various contributors have added things and changed things - note that the original doesn't have the "Gout - 77% resolved", for example.
Here's the original. It's from "Risks and benefits of bariatric surgery: Current evidence". Brethauer, Chand, and Schauer, Cleveland Clinic Journal of Medicine, 73, 2006, pp 1-15.
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/7d7b/db3d7afa9071b6d5ce0652caa7aa0b8660c6.pdf?_ga=2.86331736.1712735926.1582668681-232217838.1582668681
This is an example of the context being really significant. Even if we accept that the original diagram about the benefits of bariatric surgery is completely accurate, that's a completely different situation than just "when we lose fat."
A candidate for that type of surgery isn't the same as anyone with excess fat, so assuming the average overweight person will experience the same benefits at the same rate is absolutely unfounded.10 -
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janejellyroll wrote: »Wow, this infographic is all over the internet, with multiple variations. It's a Pinterest favorite. It looks like various contributors have added things and changed things - note that the original doesn't have the "Gout - 77% resolved", for example.
Here's the original. It's from "Risks and benefits of bariatric surgery: Current evidence". Brethauer, Chand, and Schauer, Cleveland Clinic Journal of Medicine, 73, 2006, pp 1-15.
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/7d7b/db3d7afa9071b6d5ce0652caa7aa0b8660c6.pdf?_ga=2.86331736.1712735926.1582668681-232217838.1582668681
This is an example of the context being really significant. Even if we accept that the original diagram about the benefits of bariatric surgery is completely accurate, that's a completely different situation than just "when we lose fat."
A candidate for that type of surgery isn't the same as anyone with excess fat, so assuming the average overweight person will experience the same benefits at the same rate is absolutely unfounded.
But there will be benefits, given at different rates.1 -
Theoldguy1 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Wow, this infographic is all over the internet, with multiple variations. It's a Pinterest favorite. It looks like various contributors have added things and changed things - note that the original doesn't have the "Gout - 77% resolved", for example.
Here's the original. It's from "Risks and benefits of bariatric surgery: Current evidence". Brethauer, Chand, and Schauer, Cleveland Clinic Journal of Medicine, 73, 2006, pp 1-15.
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/7d7b/db3d7afa9071b6d5ce0652caa7aa0b8660c6.pdf?_ga=2.86331736.1712735926.1582668681-232217838.1582668681
This is an example of the context being really significant. Even if we accept that the original diagram about the benefits of bariatric surgery is completely accurate, that's a completely different situation than just "when we lose fat."
A candidate for that type of surgery isn't the same as anyone with excess fat, so assuming the average overweight person will experience the same benefits at the same rate is absolutely unfounded.
But there will be benefits, given at different rates.
There will be benefits, but you can't tell someone who has depression and is 20 pounds overweight that if they lose 20 pounds in body fat that their depression will decrease by 55% or resolve itself. That is misleading and can cause further depression if they lose that fat and are still experiencing depression despite the fat loss.
I would be interested to see a good study on if fat loss does help with depression.9 -
Theoldguy1 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Wow, this infographic is all over the internet, with multiple variations. It's a Pinterest favorite. It looks like various contributors have added things and changed things - note that the original doesn't have the "Gout - 77% resolved", for example.
Here's the original. It's from "Risks and benefits of bariatric surgery: Current evidence". Brethauer, Chand, and Schauer, Cleveland Clinic Journal of Medicine, 73, 2006, pp 1-15.
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/7d7b/db3d7afa9071b6d5ce0652caa7aa0b8660c6.pdf?_ga=2.86331736.1712735926.1582668681-232217838.1582668681
This is an example of the context being really significant. Even if we accept that the original diagram about the benefits of bariatric surgery is completely accurate, that's a completely different situation than just "when we lose fat."
A candidate for that type of surgery isn't the same as anyone with excess fat, so assuming the average overweight person will experience the same benefits at the same rate is absolutely unfounded.
But there will be benefits, given at different rates.
Will there be? We don't know for a fact that someone who is twenty pounds overweight faces all the health risks of someone who is 300 pounds overweight. The truth is that being overweight does put someone at risk - but does it put someone at risk for *all* the health complications of morbid obesity?
Are there radical differences in, say, depression between the normal weight and the overweight? What about stress induced incontinence? Fatty liver disease?
To talk about these as risks of having *any* excess fat strikes me as potential fearmongering.8 -
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cmriverside wrote: »
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There were two for awhile, now it's back to one, so I guess someone reconsidered! 0 -
cmriverside wrote: »
Thanks There were two for awhile, now it's back to one, so I guess someone reconsidered!
Now they're both gone...0 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »
Thanks There were two for awhile, now it's back to one, so I guess someone reconsidered!
Now they're both gone...
Are you guys seeing the old-school smileys, too?
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JK, the drinker one disappeared from the easy-click :::: choices years ago.1 -
cmriverside wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »
Thanks There were two for awhile, now it's back to one, so I guess someone reconsidered!
Now they're both gone...
Are you guys seeing the old-school smileys, too?
Like
:drinker:
JK, the drinker one disappeared from the easy-click :::: choices years ago.
From the smily options at the topic of the dialogue box? No.
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quiksylver296 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »cmriverside wrote: »
Thanks There were two for awhile, now it's back to one, so I guess someone reconsidered!
Now they're both gone...
Are you guys seeing the old-school smileys, too?
Like
:drinker:
JK, the drinker one disappeared from the easy-click :::: choices years ago.
From the smily options at the topic of the dialogue box? No.
NO, I mean here in the forum. The faces are old-school (small), not the graphics used most recently - the larger faces.
Oh, see, you used a colon/apostrophe/parenthesis....
Here's the old-school sad one... :sad:1 -
I know how to type them in :smokin: with the colons.2
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