The lockdown hasn't been good to me?

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  • gradchica27
    gradchica27 Posts: 777 Member
    richardgavel wrote: »
    It's always about habits and routines for me. When some results in a dramatic shift in those routines, they fall apart. Early on in this mess, I lost my eating habits and exercise. So reestablish some routines. Walking 2 miles every day is more important than walking 5 miles every few days. I started with that and the other routines started to fall back into place.

  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,885 Member
    edited April 2020
    littlegreenparrot1 wrote: »
    I'm really struggling. All of my usual coping mechanisms are currently off the table. Although I understand the intent I don't find the 'we're all in it together so suck it up' rhetoric helpful.

    I've been successfully training for an ultra for 6 months, that's now cancelled. No unnecessary journeys in the UK so I can't drive anywhere nice to run. We're only supposed to be out for an hour to exercise so can't run anywhere from home because that would take to long, besides which it's difficult to see the point if it's only an hour.

    I'm lucky enough to be working from home, I work with young people in training. They are all at home, desperately anxious and taking it out on me. I cannot answer their questions because who knows what will happen? I am trying to keep them in learning, and because most of the company is on furlough my workload has doubled.

    I cannot be as active and that's impacting on my sleep.

    I'm afraid I have no suggestions to make, eventually I'll find a way through same as we all have to. Just wanted to say that I empathise. Frankly if at the end of all this the worse thing that has happened is that I am up a dress size, I'll be thankful.

    Can't you go for an hour a couple times a day?

    Would anyone really notice if you did multiple 1 hr/day loops?

    I run from home normally. Sometimes just 3 miles, sometimes a 15-18 mile run, depending on where I am in my schedule. If a longer run I usually (not always) run for a trail (one starts about 1 mile from my house, but I could obviously manage if it were not that available or if they blocked off that trail). It's not the end of the world to run around a residential neighborhood (or several). Yeah, it's not as nice as some trails, but if the focus is the exercise, it's fine.
  • yirara
    yirara Posts: 9,986 Member
    PAV8888 wrote: »
    somethingsoright wrote: »
    I've gained 6 lbs in 4 weeks since being off work. And this is with me never once taking a day off weighing and logging my food. I still do my normal cardio and strength training, plus I'm now going for daily walks.

    The gain must have to do with me not getting on a calorie burn from moving around at work and just a general nervousness I have in the workplace. Now it's time to make a plan for lowering my calories, which sucks because I was at such a good intake for my mental health, ya know? It was a high enough cut that I felt strong and not deprived. I had a problem with binging on low calorie diets in the past.

    6lbs in 4 weeks is 750 Cal a day, which is a significant overage--what you mention would have a hard time explaining it by itself.

    I mean 750 Cal is the difference between sedentary and very active in *my case* (M, 172.25cm, 153lbs) That's like more than 10,000 steps in my case.... and it would be an even larger difference for you if your BMR is less than 1500 (BMR not TDEE)

    So: are you sore at all? Have you been eating back calories from the walks which you weren't doing before? TOM complications? Are the 6lbs a scale weight change or a weight trend change?

    Now this is a number boy I totally agree with!
  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,809 Member
    helen_goldthorpe wrote: »
    I'm in the UK and I find it easier to avoid people on longer bike rides than if I did half an hour close to home. I live in a city but on a longer ride I can get out into the countryside and plan a route which mainly avoids towns. The first weekend of lockdown I tried riding smaller loops close to home and realised that it wasn't actually the most intelligent route choice. The 1 hour thing was an off the cuff comment and isn't in either the law or the guidance so until that changes I'm relatively comfortable with going out for longer as long as my route choice is sensible.

    Agreed.
    I'm not interacting with more people (none in fact) if I cycle shorter distances every day or longer distances every other day. I am limiting myself to rides of under 3hrs starting and finishing at home as I can do those with the fluids I can carry on the bike so no need to stop or buy any drink.

    @littlegreenparrot1
    Wish you well in your struggles but one hour of exercise only is not part of the recommendations at all. The official NHS advice regarding exercise is "to do one form of exercise a day" - no mention of duration. If it helps you to run further then do it but I assume fluids would be your limiting factor.
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,885 Member
    BarbaraHelen2013 wrote: »
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    littlegreenparrot1 wrote: »
    I'm really struggling. All of my usual coping mechanisms are currently off the table. Although I understand the intent I don't find the 'we're all in it together so suck it up' rhetoric helpful.

    I've been successfully training for an ultra for 6 months, that's now cancelled. No unnecessary journeys in the UK so I can't drive anywhere nice to run. We're only supposed to be out for an hour to exercise so can't run anywhere from home because that would take to long, besides which it's difficult to see the point if it's only an hour.

    I'm lucky enough to be working from home, I work with young people in training. They are all at home, desperately anxious and taking it out on me. I cannot answer their questions because who knows what will happen? I am trying to keep them in learning, and because most of the company is on furlough my workload has doubled.

    I cannot be as active and that's impacting on my sleep.

    I'm afraid I have no suggestions to make, eventually I'll find a way through same as we all have to. Just wanted to say that I empathise. Frankly if at the end of all this the worse thing that has happened is that I am up a dress size, I'll be thankful.

    Can't you go for an hour a couple times a day?

    Would anyone really notice if you did multiple 1 hr/day loops?

    I run from home normally. Sometimes just 3 miles, sometimes a 15-18 mile run, depending on where I am in my schedule. If a longer run I usually (not always) run for a trail (one starts about 1 mile from my house, but I could obviously manage if it were not that available or if they blocked off that trail). It's not the end of the world to run around a residential neighborhood (or several). Yeah, it's not as nice as some trails, but if the focus is the exercise, it's fine.

    In the UK, where @littlegreenparrot1 has stated she is, the rules of lockdown specifically state you may only leave your house for one form of exercise a day. Further clarification of that suggests ‘an hours walk, a 30 minute run or a cycle ride of between that duration. Dogs may be walked as part of your daily exercise’.

    And surely, it’s not really in the spirit of supporting the principles behind lockdown to flout the guidelines? If everyone decided they could stretch the time frame to several hours or multiple separate hours the streets would be pretty busy, which is the opposite of the intent of the ruling. 🤷‍♀️

    Ah, didn't realize it was only an hour total. I read it, incorrectly, as more about staying near your home. I don't get limiting people to an hour total of exercise outdoors, especially if someone is in an area where you can easily be outside without being near people (not the case for me and perhaps not for littlegreenparrot, but obviously the case some places).

    Also, it's common for people to walk dogs more than once a day, and that 1x per day seems pretty tough too for those without a yard.

    But yeah, I'm a rules follower too, so I don't mean to be coming up with ways to avoid the rules.
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,885 Member
    helen_goldthorpe wrote: »
    I'm in the UK and I find it easier to avoid people on longer bike rides than if I did half an hour close to home. I live in a city but on a longer ride I can get out into the countryside and plan a route which mainly avoids towns. The first weekend of lockdown I tried riding smaller loops close to home and realised that it wasn't actually the most intelligent route choice. The 1 hour thing was an off the cuff comment and isn't in either the law or the guidance so until that changes I'm relatively comfortable with going out for longer as long as my route choice is sensible.

    Thanks for clarifying. That makes more sense, and I agree that for many of us in more busy areas going farther away could be helpful. (For me I'd have to go too far for it really to matter, but I can avoid people okay when outside where I am just by being flexible about crossing the street -- this is running, not biking. Biking seems okay just because of the lack of car traffic compared to usual.)
  • brenn24179
    brenn24179 Posts: 2,144 Member
    I lost 40 lbs and made up my mind to not put it back on. It is hard but I am doing it. I am thinking I want to fit in my clothes after all this is over with. I messed up over Easter, kind of in a candy coma but didnt eater dinner that night so all is good, getting back on track today. Remind myself how bad I feel when I get fat.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    KrissCanDoThis wrote: »
    I do understand the mental disconnect shes talking about when it comes to the running thing..

    It's hard for people who dont have the disconnect to really grasp it... but when I was working out, my brain told me that only calories burned running counted, when I used the elliptical I couldnt bring myself to count it as legit exercise. Eventually as my disconnect got worse, and I required more higher and higher calorie burns to feel comfortable mentally, an hour at the gym felt like a waste of time, what a failure I was, only spending an hour doing cardio...

    Logically in the real world... yes. An hour is better then nothing and we can agree and see that as a true statement, but that back area of your mind, that is screaming at you, it can really kick the crap out of you and distort your ability to accept truth

    I get the disconnect between what we feel to be true and what we objectively know is true.
  • psychod787
    psychod787 Posts: 4,099 Member
    KrissCanDoThis wrote: »
    I do understand the mental disconnect shes talking about when it comes to the running thing..

    It's hard for people who dont have the disconnect to really grasp it... but when I was working out, my brain told me that only calories burned running counted, when I used the elliptical I couldnt bring myself to count it as legit exercise. Eventually as my disconnect got worse, and I required more higher and higher calorie burns to feel comfortable mentally, an hour at the gym felt like a waste of time, what a failure I was, only spending an hour doing cardio...

    Logically in the real world... yes. An hour is better then nothing and we can agree and see that as a true statement, but that back area of your mind, that is screaming at you, it can really kick the crap out of you and distort your ability to accept truth

    I don't "get" the disconnect I guess. I don't do much "cardio" as people think about it. I was. Yes, that is LISS cardio, but I don't really look at it as burning calories. I look at it as how humans were made to live. We were never meant to be sedentary. I like to lift heavy things, yes it does burn calories as well. For me the point is to be strong. I prefer to have a more ancestral movement pattern. To each their own though......
  • Unicorn_Bacon
    Unicorn_Bacon Posts: 491 Member
    It's hard for a lot of people to understand, so I dont fault you for it. All I can say is that for someone like me, it was just an ongoing destructive pile of emotions and thoughts that left me unable to accept what's actually real compared to what my brain made me feel was real.

    It's much the same as me dealing with my borderline personality disorder. I have the ability to acknowledge that my rage that I feel inside, often times over what most people would consider as nothing, is just my disorder, however, acknowledging it doesnt stop my emotions from going sky high and staying sky high until they come down, hours, days, sometimes even a week or more later.

    For example, a couple months ago I woke up and was already feeling kind of off, a co worker picked me up for work and she wasnt being chatty or annoying and we were talking about blocking someone on a samsung phone, all she did was say how her older version of her phone was different and I immediately wanted to tell her to go f herself... but I did my best to hold back.. as we were walking inside, she pointed out that they plowed the snow further onto the grass more then normal and again I just wanted to say to her "who the f cares about where they plowed"... I went up and cooked my breakfasts for the residents and about 2 hours into it a co worker had messaged me asking if they were short staffed, and somehow we got into a discussion about if she would get paid triple time and a half if they called her in.. eventually I ended up telling her off and blocked her, as I walked over across the hall to gather the dirty placemats and napkins, I heard a coworker on the phone with her husband, who is also our supervisor, saying "well krista didnt get me any juice yesterday"... and I was by that point fuming and ready to just lay into her.

    I went down to staffing and told them I needed to leave because the rage I felt was so raw, the next thing would of just tipped me over the edge, when I got home I was still mad, I knew that my coworker in the car wasnt doing anything wrong, I knew my coworker who texted me didnt say anything wrong, she was just explaining something to me, and my coworker on the phone, i know i only caught the tail end of that conversation, i dont know what was said before or after, but shes a friend, so it's likely she wasnt saying anything actually negative... but I couldnt calm down, I couldnt lessen that rage, even knowing that those people didnt do anything, even when my coworker messaged me 3 times to make sure I was okay, I just felt like I was having a screaming melt down inside, the next day was still no better, I ordered in a cheeseburger and fries cause I didnt feel like cooking and when they delivered it, they forgot my gravy and I lost it, I called them up and tore buddies head off....over gravy...

    But even tho I know how silly or not real something is, what's going on inside of me is a completely different reality.

    Same with the calories.. how can I acknowledge enjoying physical activity when my brain has created a reality where I have to meet a specific quota otherwise I'm a failure, and when you fail, you lose control, and when you cant control, that's when you lose everything you worked for, and in my life where everything was food focused and calorie related, if I couldnt correct the calories and create balance, it made me have anxiety, I'd pace, I couldnt sleep, I had to do something.. sometimes that something was throwing out every speck of food in my apt, fridge, freezers, cupboards.. until I rid myself of food, to make sure that tomorrow I couldnt eat and balance out, I couldnt relax, not until I was sure to not have the same problem tomorrow, but even tho I wasnt going to eat and just starve myself.. i still needed to go to the gym and burn more calories...

    And that was reality for me lol.. and its created from nothing but very very real inside my mind.
  • SCoil123
    SCoil123 Posts: 2,111 Member
    We can’t even access our parks or trails anymore here. It’s definitely affecting me and I’m up and down all over the place. I had switched from maintenance to losing again right before this. I stalled when the shelter in place started. This past week I finally saw movement again losing a little

    I’m doing good with home workouts 5-6 days a week but my food choices have been horrible and stress/boredom eating is a struggle.
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