Macros, Calories, Exercise...oh My :)

Zodiacsmom
Zodiacsmom Posts: 105 Member
edited December 2024 in Health and Weight Loss
Hey hey! I am 47, 235lbs, 5'2" and count macros...currently I have Carbs at 160g, Protein 120g, Fat, Cals are 1660...

Trying to get back down to around a size 12 or so...

I have always yo-yo my weight... I want to get toned and healthy within the next 3 years.

Any suggestions, any ideas, and adjustments...

Thanks everyone :)

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  • Zodiacsmom
    Zodiacsmom Posts: 105 Member
    I put in my macros my trainer gave me and it calculated my cals :) and no that is before exercise.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    Zodiacsmom wrote: »
    I put in my macros my trainer gave me and it calculated my cals :) and no that is before exercise.

    Did your trainer explain how they arrived at your macro goals? The amount of nutritional training that trainers have is really variable -- some know what they're doing and some have no idea.

    Are you going to be eating back the additional calories you're burning through exercise?
  • Duck_Puddle
    Duck_Puddle Posts: 3,237 Member
    How active are you (not including exercise)?
  • Zodiacsmom
    Zodiacsmom Posts: 105 Member
    Zodiacsmom wrote: »
    I put in my macros my trainer gave me and it calculated my cals :) and no that is before exercise.

    Did your trainer explain how they arrived at your macro goals? The amount of nutritional training that trainers have is really variable -- some know what they're doing and some have no idea.

    Are you going to be eating back the additional calories you're burning through exercise?

    She told me that I needed more "healthy carbs" (not junk)... I had been doing keto and it was great for weight loss but I couldn't sustain it long term so we came up with another approach (of course after I gained back what I lost with keto lol)

    And soem days I do an some days I don't... I usually hit pretty much right on before I add my workouts
  • Zodiacsmom
    Zodiacsmom Posts: 105 Member
    How active are you (not including exercise)?

    I am pretty sedentary these days with the changes in lifestyles these days... but I try and get a few miles of walking in every day and then I have 2 pretty intense workouts a week (until the gym opens back up)
  • Duck_Puddle
    Duck_Puddle Posts: 3,237 Member
    Zodiacsmom wrote: »
    How active are you (not including exercise)?

    I am pretty sedentary these days with the changes in lifestyles these days... but I try and get a few miles of walking in every day and then I have 2 pretty intense workouts a week (until the gym opens back up)

    If you just put your stats into mfp for a setup, how many calories does it give you?

    If you’re actually walking a few miles a day now, that’s not sedentary. But if that’s a non-lockdown/covid thing, then you may be sedentary for now.
  • Zodiacsmom
    Zodiacsmom Posts: 105 Member
    Zodiacsmom wrote: »
    How active are you (not including exercise)?

    I am pretty sedentary these days with the changes in lifestyles these days... but I try and get a few miles of walking in every day and then I have 2 pretty intense workouts a week (until the gym opens back up)

    If you just put your stats into mfp for a setup, how many calories does it give you?

    If you’re actually walking a few miles a day now, that’s not sedentary. But if that’s a non-lockdown/covid thing, then you may be sedentary for now.

    It was around 1350, which just wasn't cutting it... I was never in a deficit lol

    Also some days it is 1/4 of a mile some days it is 2 miles...never really know... I used to do like 4-6 every day (a year or so ago) soooo lol
  • Duck_Puddle
    Duck_Puddle Posts: 3,237 Member
    Zodiacsmom wrote: »
    Zodiacsmom wrote: »
    How active are you (not including exercise)?

    I am pretty sedentary these days with the changes in lifestyles these days... but I try and get a few miles of walking in every day and then I have 2 pretty intense workouts a week (until the gym opens back up)

    If you just put your stats into mfp for a setup, how many calories does it give you?

    If you’re actually walking a few miles a day now, that’s not sedentary. But if that’s a non-lockdown/covid thing, then you may be sedentary for now.

    It was around 1350, which just wasn't cutting it... I was never in a deficit lol

    Also some days it is 1/4 of a mile some days it is 2 miles...never really know... I used to do like 4-6 every day (a year or so ago) soooo lol

    That helps. 1660 plus exercise is higher than I would expect. You should still be in a deficit, but it will probably be pretty small (your sedentary TDEE looks to be about 1950-so about 300/day if you add exercise on top). But a pretty small deficit you can maintain is better than anything you can’t. And knowing that is a really a huge benefit in this process.

    As for macros-thats all about what works for you. Protein is important. Beyond that, some people find fats filling, some people find protein filling, some people find fiber filling, some people find carbs filling, some people need a certain volume of food regardless of the macro mix. The kinds of activities you do and their scheduling can also make a difference in which macro mix is best for you. It’s some trial and error to get that all whittled down.

    Calories are king for weight loss (or maintenance or gain), but the right macros or specific foods can make a difference in how you feel, function and how easily you manage to stick to your calorie goals.
  • lgfrie
    lgfrie Posts: 1,449 Member
    edited May 2020
    Some simplification would probably help you get toward your goals and would make things much easier for you. Since your time frame is three years, and not some wacky "I want to lose 60 pounds in 35 days" type thing, successful slow-but-steady weight loss is going to be very doable.

    Let's do some quick, back-of-the-napkin math.

    With 156 weeks to work with, losing 3/4 lb per week would add up to 117 lbs over 3 years and give you a picture-perfect BMI of 22. According to TDEEcalculator.net, your TDEE (i.e. break-even calories) based on your stats is 1,985 calories per day. To lose 3/4 lb per week, you'd need to eat 1,610 calories. I am going to make a big assumption in the absence of more information that that's the kind of progress, pace, and long-term goal you're looking for; of course the numbers can be tweaked to your liking!

    So there you have it. Over time as you become a lithe, lean, mean dieting machine, those calories will reduce, but that's another problem for another day. Right now, 1,610 would be a good stake in the ground.

    When you go walking, add another 75 calories of food for each mile you walk. 3 mile walk, add 225 calories worth of food, and so on. If you prefer round numbers, make it 80 per mile.

    That's it. That's the whole plan. Do that every day: 1610 cals plus whatever exercise you get. You don't need to futz with macros, protein, carbs, keto, etc. Just eat what you want, right up to and not beyond the target calories and you will lose the weight. You don't need 13.6382 grams of carbs per day or protein equal to twice the square root of the size of your pancreas. You just need to eat right up to and not beyond your calorie quota, the end, full stop. Of course, for health purposes, it's better if the food you eat is healthy stuff, but we all know what healthy food looks like and we never needed macros to know that a piece of asparagus is better for you than a piece of pork belly.

    For the next six weeks, don't take any cheat/off meals/days/binge-fests. Just learn to work within your allotted calories. Develop that habit and it'll serve you very, very well going forward. If for some reason you end up face-down in a giant pizza during that time, just write it off. Don't try to make up for it by starving yourself, don't be emotional about it or think it's "ruined" your diet -- and here is the only thing I can tell you that actually matters -- avoid the mindset that since you had a pizza, you may as well take the rest of the day or the next day off, because that is how diets die. Just enjoy your pizza and get right back on the horse and plow forward.

    If you do this, with no or very minimal cheat meals/days, the odds are extremely high, bordering on certainty, that after 6 weeks you will have lost approximately 4.5 pounds of fat and then you will have the positive reinforcement and confidence that this can be done over a much longer stretch of time. And you will not be suffering or feeling deprived, because you'll go for a 2 mile walk and eat your satisfying 1610+150 = 1760 calories, which is a decent amount of food that almost anyone could live with.
  • Zodiacsmom
    Zodiacsmom Posts: 105 Member
    lgfrie wrote: »
    Some simplification would probably help you get toward your goals and would make things much easier for you. Since your time frame is three years, and not some wacky "I want to lose 60 pounds in 35 days" type thing, successful slow-but-steady weight loss is going to be very doable.

    Let's do some quick, back-of-the-napkin math.

    With 156 weeks to work with, losing 3/4 lb per week would add up to 117 lbs over 3 years and give you a picture-perfect BMI of 22. According to TDEEcalculator.net, your TDEE (i.e. break-even calories) based on your stats is 1,985 calories per day. To lose 3/4 lb per week, you'd need to eat 1,610 calories. I am going to make a big assumption in the absence of more information that that's the kind of progress, pace, and long-term goal you're looking for; of course the numbers can be tweaked to your liking!

    So there you have it. Over time as you become a lithe, lean, mean dieting machine, those calories will reduce, but that's another problem for another day. Right now, 1,610 would be a good stake in the ground.

    When you go walking, add another 75 calories of food for each mile you walk. 3 mile walk, add 225 calories worth of food, and so on. If you prefer round numbers, make it 80 per mile.

    That's it. That's the whole plan. Do that every day: 1610 cals plus whatever exercise you get. You don't need to futz with macros, protein, carbs, keto, etc. Just eat what you want, right up to and not beyond the target calories and you will lose the weight. You don't need 13.6382 grams of carbs per day or protein equal to twice the square root of the size of your pancreas. You just need to eat right up to and not beyond your calorie quota, the end, full stop. Of course, for health purposes, it's better if the food you eat is healthy stuff, but we all know what healthy food looks like and we never needed macros to know that a piece of asparagus is better for you than a piece of pork belly.

    For the next six weeks, don't take any cheat/off meals/days/binge-fests. Just learn to work within your allotted calories. Develop that habit and it'll serve you very, very well going forward. If for some reason you end up face-down in a giant pizza during that time, just write it off. Don't try to make up for it by starving yourself, don't be emotional about it or think it's "ruined" your diet -- and here is the only thing I can tell you that actually matters -- avoid the mindset that since you had a pizza, you may as well take the rest of the day or the next day off, because that is how diets die. Just enjoy your pizza and get right back on the horse and plow forward.

    If you do this, with no or very minimal cheat meals/days, the odds are extremely high, bordering on certainty, that after 6 weeks you will have lost approximately 4.5 pounds of fat and then you will have the positive reinforcement and confidence that this can be done over a much longer stretch of time. And you will not be suffering or feeling deprived, because you'll go for a 2 mile walk and eat your satisfying 1610+150 = 1760 calories, which is a decent amount of food that almost anyone could live with.

    Thanks so much!
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    Zodiacsmom wrote: »
    Zodiacsmom wrote: »
    I put in my macros my trainer gave me and it calculated my cals :) and no that is before exercise.

    Did your trainer explain how they arrived at your macro goals? The amount of nutritional training that trainers have is really variable -- some know what they're doing and some have no idea.

    Are you going to be eating back the additional calories you're burning through exercise?

    She told me that I needed more "healthy carbs" (not junk)... I had been doing keto and it was great for weight loss but I couldn't sustain it long term so we came up with another approach (of course after I gained back what I lost with keto lol)

    And soem days I do an some days I don't... I usually hit pretty much right on before I add my workouts

    How do the macros address the *types* of carbohydrates you're eating?

    If your trainer isn't addressing the calories you're burning through exercise that is a *major* red flag. Her job is to help you reach your fitness goals, right? You can't do that if you're not properly fueled for your activity.
  • Zodiacsmom
    Zodiacsmom Posts: 105 Member
    Zodiacsmom wrote: »
    Zodiacsmom wrote: »
    I put in my macros my trainer gave me and it calculated my cals :) and no that is before exercise.

    Did your trainer explain how they arrived at your macro goals? The amount of nutritional training that trainers have is really variable -- some know what they're doing and some have no idea.

    Are you going to be eating back the additional calories you're burning through exercise?

    She told me that I needed more "healthy carbs" (not junk)... I had been doing keto and it was great for weight loss but I couldn't sustain it long term so we came up with another approach (of course after I gained back what I lost with keto lol)

    And soem days I do an some days I don't... I usually hit pretty much right on before I add my workouts

    How do the macros address the *types* of carbohydrates you're eating?

    If your trainer isn't addressing the calories you're burning through exercise that is a *major* red flag. Her job is to help you reach your fitness goals, right? You can't do that if you're not properly fueled for your activity.

    Sorry i was away for a few days... oh we workout together all the time... in addition she helps with meal prep, healthier options, considering what my food intake is and making adjustments that may help me feel better due to my own health issues, etc. :smile:
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    Zodiacsmom wrote: »
    Zodiacsmom wrote: »
    Zodiacsmom wrote: »
    I put in my macros my trainer gave me and it calculated my cals :) and no that is before exercise.

    Did your trainer explain how they arrived at your macro goals? The amount of nutritional training that trainers have is really variable -- some know what they're doing and some have no idea.

    Are you going to be eating back the additional calories you're burning through exercise?

    She told me that I needed more "healthy carbs" (not junk)... I had been doing keto and it was great for weight loss but I couldn't sustain it long term so we came up with another approach (of course after I gained back what I lost with keto lol)

    And soem days I do an some days I don't... I usually hit pretty much right on before I add my workouts

    How do the macros address the *types* of carbohydrates you're eating?

    If your trainer isn't addressing the calories you're burning through exercise that is a *major* red flag. Her job is to help you reach your fitness goals, right? You can't do that if you're not properly fueled for your activity.

    Sorry i was away for a few days... oh we workout together all the time... in addition she helps with meal prep, healthier options, considering what my food intake is and making adjustments that may help me feel better due to my own health issues, etc. :smile:

    I'm not doubting that you work out together all the time. My point is that if she's not planning an appropriate calorie intake for you (that is, if she's not ensuring the meal plans she's creating include enough calories for active adults), then that is something that would concern me from a professional.
  • Zodiacsmom
    Zodiacsmom Posts: 105 Member
    Zodiacsmom wrote: »
    Zodiacsmom wrote: »
    Zodiacsmom wrote: »
    I put in my macros my trainer gave me and it calculated my cals :) and no that is before exercise.

    Did your trainer explain how they arrived at your macro goals? The amount of nutritional training that trainers have is really variable -- some know what they're doing and some have no idea.

    Are you going to be eating back the additional calories you're burning through exercise?

    She told me that I needed more "healthy carbs" (not junk)... I had been doing keto and it was great for weight loss but I couldn't sustain it long term so we came up with another approach (of course after I gained back what I lost with keto lol)

    And soem days I do an some days I don't... I usually hit pretty much right on before I add my workouts

    How do the macros address the *types* of carbohydrates you're eating?

    If your trainer isn't addressing the calories you're burning through exercise that is a *major* red flag. Her job is to help you reach your fitness goals, right? You can't do that if you're not properly fueled for your activity.

    Sorry i was away for a few days... oh we workout together all the time... in addition she helps with meal prep, healthier options, considering what my food intake is and making adjustments that may help me feel better due to my own health issues, etc. :smile:

    I'm not doubting that you work out together all the time. My point is that if she's not planning an appropriate calorie intake for you (that is, if she's not ensuring the meal plans she's creating include enough calories for active adults), then that is something that would concern me from a professional.


    Oh no, we met after I made this post, my MFP was updating to new numbers based on my exercise, she just told me to stay the course with keeping my deficit. and trust MFP. I was just having a freak out over macros versus cals and what to follow. But I totally get why you would think otherwise :smile: Thank you!
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    Zodiacsmom wrote: »
    Zodiacsmom wrote: »
    Zodiacsmom wrote: »
    Zodiacsmom wrote: »
    I put in my macros my trainer gave me and it calculated my cals :) and no that is before exercise.

    Did your trainer explain how they arrived at your macro goals? The amount of nutritional training that trainers have is really variable -- some know what they're doing and some have no idea.

    Are you going to be eating back the additional calories you're burning through exercise?

    She told me that I needed more "healthy carbs" (not junk)... I had been doing keto and it was great for weight loss but I couldn't sustain it long term so we came up with another approach (of course after I gained back what I lost with keto lol)

    And soem days I do an some days I don't... I usually hit pretty much right on before I add my workouts

    How do the macros address the *types* of carbohydrates you're eating?

    If your trainer isn't addressing the calories you're burning through exercise that is a *major* red flag. Her job is to help you reach your fitness goals, right? You can't do that if you're not properly fueled for your activity.

    Sorry i was away for a few days... oh we workout together all the time... in addition she helps with meal prep, healthier options, considering what my food intake is and making adjustments that may help me feel better due to my own health issues, etc. :smile:

    I'm not doubting that you work out together all the time. My point is that if she's not planning an appropriate calorie intake for you (that is, if she's not ensuring the meal plans she's creating include enough calories for active adults), then that is something that would concern me from a professional.


    Oh no, we met after I made this post, my MFP was updating to new numbers based on my exercise, she just told me to stay the course with keeping my deficit. and trust MFP. I was just having a freak out over macros versus cals and what to follow. But I totally get why you would think otherwise :smile: Thank you!

    If she's telling you to ignore the calories burnt through additional activity, calories that MFP is designed for you to eat, that's the opposite of "trusting MFP."
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