2nd week and no loss
pins1982
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Hi weighed myself today after a week and I’ve stayed the same, I did 5lb the first week so am a bit disheartened I did everything same ate under my calories only by a few mins you and exercised was hoping to see at least a 1lb.
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I think we need more information to give you an answer
* are you only weighing once per week
* How big is your deficit, age, weight and length? And which weightloss goal did you chose?
* Are you using a food scale to measure all food?
* For how long have you been working out?
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Yes weighing once a week, I’m 37 5ft 9 and chose 1.5lb week weight loss. My calorie deficit is 1370.
Been working out last 8 weeks 5 days a week but only just started calorie deficit two weeks ago.
Yes weighing good but uncertain about things like roast pototoes and chicken do I weigh before then add oil calories etc0 -
If you are a woman who is cycling, your weight will fluctuate a lot as your hormones fluctuate. You probably didn't lose 5 pounds of fat in a week. Some of it was water. As you continued to eat at a deficit for calories, you probably lost some fat but were maintaining more water for one reason or another. Weight loss is not linear. It leaps around, seemingly more so for menstruating women, those who exercise differently on differently days, based on salty and unsalty meals, those who work night shift some days, etc.7
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Your answer is somewhere in here:
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Yes weighing good but uncertain about things like roast pototoes and chicken do I weigh before then add oil calories etc
Hello
Yes you have to weigh before or you may be unknowingly adding calories. For roasted potato and chicken, weigh it all raw. Uncooked potato, raw chicken, oil, everything . That’s the only way to ensure you have the right calorie count4 -
Yes, totally. Likely water weight fluctuations. If you weigh once a week then you might be unlucky to get an unusual low measurement one week, and an unusually high measurement the next. A weight trending app might help you see the trend in the data, but with one datapoint per week (always under same conditions, best naked in the morning after loo) it will take longer to get meaningful data.
And hey, so the scale showed a down of 5lbs in two weeks. That's 2.5 per week. What's wrong with that?
Weigh everything uncooked, and everything separately. Thus potato with skin x grams, 10ml of cooking oil, etc. etc. Many things change their weight after cooking, some things lose weight (water and fat mostly), others take up things and become heavier. Raw weight is the most precise as you don't know how much food changes from cooking.4 -
Thanks for all your help I will weigh myself I think mon, weds and Fridays and get a weight trending app. I will also make sure I do it at the same time every day! I’m also due on so I haven’t took that in to consideration. Thanks everyone for your help and support xx3
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I agree with @yirara , unlucky with fluctuations is a likely answer here. I weigh daily, so here’s an example from my last two weeks:
In the last couple of weeks I’ve been on a trip, had a party, and generally had highs and lows in terms of menstruation, drinking alcohol, eating lots of carbs, sweating a lot in a sauna and so on. Here’s my weight loss results weekday to weekday from last week to this week:
Monday: -2,8lbs
Tuesday: -0,2lbs
Wednesday: -1,3lbs
Thursday: -2lbs
Friday: -0,6lbs
Saturday: -1,3lbs
Sunday: -0,4lbs
As you can see, there’s a big difference in my weekly weight loss depending on which day of the week happens to be my weigh-in day. Believing I lost 2,8lbs in a week versus 0,2lbs in a week depending on which weekday is my weigh-in day would really mess with my motivation and trust in the process. This is why I weigh in daily and use a trend weight app to see what my actual weight loss trend is (currently 0,9 lbs per week).3 -
I use the basic version of Happy Scale. It's free and for iOS. Android has something similar. Not sure about the name though.
And yes, water fluctuations are totally a thing. There are dozens of reasons why fluid levels in your body fluctuate. And hey, about 60% of your body consists of fluid, thus it's constant ebb and flood there Bit more salt, bit more carbs, TOM or middle of cycle, new sport, stress, traveling - and especially flying is a kill joy in that respect! Moving a bit less, moving a bit more, drinking too little might make your body hold onto fluids, high outside temperatures, sometimes no discernible reason at all.0 -
I think the similar android app is called Libra. I’m also a Happy Scale user and I really like it.1
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Most weight loss experts and dietitians will tell you to NEVER weigh yourself daily. First off, the standard bathroom scale isn't really very accurate and is more for a general idea of how much a person weighs. The scales in a gym, if they are a "bar scale" is much more accurate but even those can be off by a pound or more. The scales at a doctor's office or dietitians office are accurate as long as they receive periodic calibrations. Finally, the fluctuations that occur not just throughout the day, but also day to day, can become very disheartening and zap your motivation. I weigh myself 3 or 4 times a week, but my "official weight loss log" is once a week, on the same day, first thing when I get out of bed. Consistency is better, or so I've been told. Reducing the modifying factors tends to make things more accurate, and less disheartening. Also, weight loss is a very gradual thing, whereas weight gain is instantaneous. Keep working at it, and the rewards will come.1
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roger00022000 wrote: »Most weight loss experts and dietitians will tell you to NEVER weigh yourself daily. First off, the standard bathroom scale isn't really very accurate and is more for a general idea of how much a person weighs. The scales in a gym, if they are a "bar scale" is much more accurate but even those can be off by a pound or more. The scales at a doctor's office or dietitians office are accurate as long as they receive periodic calibrations. Finally, the fluctuations that occur not just throughout the day, but also day to day, can become very disheartening and zap your motivation. I weigh myself 3 or 4 times a week, but my "official weight loss log" is once a week, on the same day, first thing when I get out of bed. Consistency is better, or so I've been told. Reducing the modifying factors tends to make things more accurate, and less disheartening. Also, weight loss is a very gradual thing, whereas weight gain is instantaneous. Keep working at it, and the rewards will come.
Daily fluctuations are only disheartening if you don't look at them in context. I weigh daily and just plug my weight into a weight trending app. Focus on the trend, not the daily weight. Nothing wrong with collecting more data if that works for an individual.10 -
janejellyroll wrote: »roger00022000 wrote: »Most weight loss experts and dietitians will tell you to NEVER weigh yourself daily. First off, the standard bathroom scale isn't really very accurate and is more for a general idea of how much a person weighs. The scales in a gym, if they are a "bar scale" is much more accurate but even those can be off by a pound or more. The scales at a doctor's office or dietitians office are accurate as long as they receive periodic calibrations. Finally, the fluctuations that occur not just throughout the day, but also day to day, can become very disheartening and zap your motivation. I weigh myself 3 or 4 times a week, but my "official weight loss log" is once a week, on the same day, first thing when I get out of bed. Consistency is better, or so I've been told. Reducing the modifying factors tends to make things more accurate, and less disheartening. Also, weight loss is a very gradual thing, whereas weight gain is instantaneous. Keep working at it, and the rewards will come.
Daily fluctuations are only disheartening if you don't look at them in context. I weigh daily and just plug my weight into a weight trending app. Focus on the trend, not the daily weight. Nothing wrong with collecting more data if that works for an individual.
I can totally predict my weight throughout the week. I know it will be lowest on Sundays and Mondays, and then rise slowly throughout the week until Saturday morning because of office job and a bit fluid retention associated with that. As such I do weigh every morning and put my weight in a weight trending app. This truly shows me that I'm maintaining.5 -
It sometimes just happens like that! Don't get discouraged, weight loss is never linear. 5 lbs in a week is a LOT so it makes sense that your body slowed down the following week. Keep doing what you are doing, and work in some extra cardio if you feel like it. Think big picture1
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janejellyroll wrote: »roger00022000 wrote: »Most weight loss experts and dietitians will tell you to NEVER weigh yourself daily. First off, the standard bathroom scale isn't really very accurate and is more for a general idea of how much a person weighs. The scales in a gym, if they are a "bar scale" is much more accurate but even those can be off by a pound or more. The scales at a doctor's office or dietitians office are accurate as long as they receive periodic calibrations. Finally, the fluctuations that occur not just throughout the day, but also day to day, can become very disheartening and zap your motivation. I weigh myself 3 or 4 times a week, but my "official weight loss log" is once a week, on the same day, first thing when I get out of bed. Consistency is better, or so I've been told. Reducing the modifying factors tends to make things more accurate, and less disheartening. Also, weight loss is a very gradual thing, whereas weight gain is instantaneous. Keep working at it, and the rewards will come.
Daily fluctuations are only disheartening if you don't look at them in context. I weigh daily and just plug my weight into a weight trending app. Focus on the trend, not the daily weight. Nothing wrong with collecting more data if that works for an individual.
I can totally predict my weight throughout the week. I know it will be lowest on Sundays and Mondays, and then rise slowly throughout the week until Saturday morning because of office job and a bit fluid retention associated with that. As such I do weigh every morning and put my weight in a weight trending app. This truly shows me that I'm maintaining.
Yep, knowing your own body’s internal workings helps a lot in understanding your trends. I’m losing weight so I expect a downward trend, but I still know to expect lower numbers on the weekend (if not partying the night before to cause water retention) because my bathroom schedule allows an, ahem, emptier weigh-in on weekends when I can sleep in and wait longer in the morning before I have to weigh in, get dressed and go to work like in the weekdays.4 -
I notoriously don’t lose anything the 2nd week in or I lose very little; I’ve heard this is extremely common. The first week I tend to drop a lot (as you did) & then my body is like “hey what’s going on” & I don’t see a change.
Just keep doing what you’re doing and I can almost guarantee that you will see another good drop on week 3. It can be annoying, weight fluctuations and all, but don’t let that get in your head. Weight loss is not linear & so much goes into it. As women, hormones play a huge role. You’ll get there- just keep moving forward!1 -
roger00022000 wrote: »Most weight loss experts and dietitians will tell you to NEVER weigh yourself daily. First off, the standard bathroom scale isn't really very accurate and is more for a general idea of how much a person weighs. The scales in a gym, if they are a "bar scale" is much more accurate but even those can be off by a pound or more. The scales at a doctor's office or dietitians office are accurate as long as they receive periodic calibrations. Finally, the fluctuations that occur not just throughout the day, but also day to day, can become very disheartening and zap your motivation. I weigh myself 3 or 4 times a week, but my "official weight loss log" is once a week, on the same day, first thing when I get out of bed. Consistency is better, or so I've been told. Reducing the modifying factors tends to make things more accurate, and less disheartening. Also, weight loss is a very gradual thing, whereas weight gain is instantaneous. Keep working at it, and the rewards will come.
Others have commented on the daily weighing issue, saying it's personal and can be helpful if it doesn't cause undue stress, with which I agree. (I've been calmly weighing daily for over a decade. Data geek that I am, I could tell you what I weighed 6 years ago last Tuesday. )
I agree with you about keeping the manageable factors consistent when weighing, for cleanest data.
But I want to comment on the thing I bolded: I think that's a persistent and potentially very damaging myth.
Oversimplifying somewhat, bodyweight on the scale consists primarily of muscle and other lean tissue, bones, fat, water (most of the weight is water), and food in transit (some of which is or will be food waste). Generally, when we want to lose weight, we actually want to lose fat.
Water can change our weight instantly. It weighs just as much in my stomach and bladder as it does in a glass in my hand. Under the right circumstances, it can deplete pretty quickly via urination or sweat, among other things. It isn't fat, so why care?
Food in transit can our change weight instantly. It's like the water. An apple in my stomach and beyond weighs just as much as it did in my hand. Similarly, food waste can deplete quite quickly in the right circumstances. It isn't fat, so why care?
Muscle and other lean tissue (excluding the portion of water weight that technically counts as part of lean tissue) can change weight very, very slowly. A woman in ideal circumstances (including a calorie surplus) would be making very good progress if she gained a quarter-pound of new muscle mass a week (half a pound for men). Unless there's an extreme medical condition (or relative starvation), we lose it quite slowly, too. Since muscle is good, we should care, but it's not a major influence on scale weight in anything short of months to years, in healthy people.
Skeletal weight change, again absent major health problems, is usually something that happens over years. Growing children add it faster. Aging adults may lose it slowly. Building stronger muscles tends build stronger (heavier) bones, too, but very slowly. Strong bones are a good thing, so we should care, but it's not a major influence on scale weight except over years.
Fat gain or loss, the thing we mostly really care about, isn't normally all that fast, either. We have to eat around 3500 calories over our maintenance calories to gain about a pound of fat, either all at once or cumulatively. When people do those "10,000 calories in a day" challenge things, they don't usually gain the whole 2+ commensurate fat pounds (for a variety of physiological reasons).
So, the more normal way of gaining fat is to eat a few hundred or a thousand calories over maintenance on a regular, recurring basis. (Most people do it by, say, something like averaging a mere 100 calories above maintenance calories daily for a year, so gaining around 10 pounds; or eating at maintenance on weekdays but indulging more on weekends.)
But until food is digested and metabolized, it isn't part of body fat. Full digestive transit, per research, can take more than 50 hours (2+ days). You don't gain fat weight from food you eat at the moment you put it in your mouth, or the moment it hits your stomach. It's slower.
Fat gain can be pretty quick, if someone really works at it, but it certainly isn't "instantaneous". (Losing it is technically/theoretically only maybe a little slower, but losing fat literally as fast as possible is a major health risk, and unpleasant to do besides, so most people don't/won't lose at the maximum theoretical speed if they aren't forced by starvation conditions.) In a practical sense, in healthy people, fat gain (or loss) is usually something that happens over days to weeks.
Summarizing, among healthy people: Weight gain from water or food-in-transit can be instaneous. Fat gain is typically a days to weeks kind of thing. Muscle gain is months to years. Skeletal change is years. It's useful to understand all of that, because the part most of us care about is fat, if weight loss is the goal.
Why am I ranting about this (and I admit I am ):
We often see people around here who go to maintenance calories and "instantly gain weight", then say "I can't go over 1200/1500 or I gain weight!". Sometimes, they freak out and keep going back to a calorie deficit, getting lighter and lighter, beyond a sensible goal weight. That's not healthy. Yes, their scale weight went up, "instantaneously" (or close). They're not gaining fat. They're gaining water and digestive contents in transit. It's not a big deal.
This plays into a other freak-outs we see here, too: People who won't increase calories to lose at a sensibly slower weight as they get lighter (not necessary for all, but necessary for some). People who think that if they go off their low-carb eating method for a day, they've gained fat. And more.
Absent medical crises, fat gain/loss is not instantaneous. Instantaneous significant scale-weight gain/loss is not fat. Fat is the part we really care about, for weight loss.
OP and others who haven't read the article at the link below, I highly recommend it.
https://physiqonomics.com/the-weird-and-highly-annoying-world-of-scale-weight-and-fluctuations
It will help you.
Best wishes!10 -
This is why I weigh every day and use a weight trend app. Picking one day a week, especially if you are female (changing hormones through out the month which can cause significant weight fluctuations), doesn't give you a clear picture at all.8 -
This is why I weigh first thing in the morning (same time every day). The first photo is first thing in the morning, the second photo, is same day in the evening. The next morning, my weight was right back at 115 lbs. This is how it goes every day (I don't weigh multiple times a day normally but I was writing a blog article on weight fluctuations and as part of the experiment weighed myself every hour throughout the day under different circumstances. It was interesting, and extremely annoying, weighing and taking pictures all day.
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What and when you eat is what impacted my weight loss the most, I hardly excercise due to joint issues. I've lost 45 lbs just changing my diet. I choose low glycemic foods and eat mostly plant based. All I had to do was be patient. It took me a year, but I changed my eating habits and now I don't need to track calories or weight myself because I've made the lifestyle change.1
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I weigh myself every morning to remind myself what I am doing. That and a blood sugar count every morning keep me honest. I don't worry if things go up and down. I do try to figure out what's going on. I know that two days after Chinese take out I will have gained 4 pounds which takes about a week to shed. That's not solely from the excess calories in unmeasured General Tso's Chicken but the salt in the whole meal throwing water retention off.
Sometimes, if you weigh on a daily basis, the scale will seem to mess with you just because it can. Last night I had unmeasured amounts of seafood mac'n'cheese but this morning the scale showed a loss of over a pound. Why? To teach me not to expect too much overnight logic in body weight. Truth be told, I should have gained weight from the reckless consumption I did. It might show up tomorrow. Who knows. What's important is that the scale numbers creep downward over the long haul and that today I eat as I should: within my calorie limits!3 -
Thanks everyone for your advice x1
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Perhaps what I said earlier was not understood the way it was intended and for that, I apologize. What I intended and probably should has stated was that the PERCEPTION that people have is that weight loss takes a long time but weight gain is instantaneous. People who are trying and struggling to lose weight will see the pounds come off eventually, but will tend to notice the upward fluctuations that occur more quickly, and react to them as if things aren't working. Track your progress, and that includes the fluctuations.
My weight fluctuates by as much as 2 or 3 pounds over the course of a week. It sounds like a lot, but in reality, my average weight has gone down by a few pounds since I started this. I weigh myself normally 4 times in 7 days. The chart that I use for this is a month long daily chart. The one I use to measure progress is a weekly chart that covers a 14 week period with a line graph so I can see the progress over that period, even though in the early stages, it looks like I'm stable or even gaining. By the 14th week, though, there is a very gradual decrease. So, the loss takes time, but the daily weighing makes it seem like the gains are right away. It is the perception of the individual; thus the reason to keep a separate "official" record. the tracking apps actually do that for you, although I don't really use them. I prefer my own charts and logs.2 -
Yes, totally. Likely water weight fluctuations. If you weigh once a week then you might be unlucky to get an unusual low measurement one week, and an unusually high measurement the next. A weight trending app might help you see the trend in the data, but with one datapoint per week (always under same conditions, best naked in the morning after loo) it will take longer to get meaningful data.
And hey, so the scale showed a down of 5lbs in two weeks. That's 2.5 per week. What's wrong with that?
Weigh everything uncooked, and everything separately. Thus potato with skin x grams, 10ml of cooking oil, etc. etc. Many things change their weight after cooking, some things lose weight (water and fat mostly), others take up things and become heavier. Raw weight is the most precise as you don't know how much food changes from cooking.
What about boiled egg? I mean sometimes I eat white part of 2-3 boiled eggs with 1 whole egg.0
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